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Acrofales
Spain18366 Posts
On November 27 2012 01:12 GreYMisT wrote: In my games I have always resolved actions (even the complicated ones) in the following way: Roleblockers occur first Busdrivers/redirection Everything else. All actions within each tier occur at the same time | ||
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CaveJohnson
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Acrofales
Spain18366 Posts
Is this where we post Samuel L Jackson pictures? | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:23 Acrofales wrote: Dug it up for you guys. Note that the date is after this game had started: What does that have to do with anything, unless S&B is the bus driver himself? :o | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:26 Acrofales wrote: This would have left some room for error if SnB had claimed Phagga had been bussed with Djodref, but SnB claims he wasn't roleblocked. Is this where we post Samuel L Jackson pictures? Oh, nvm I see. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18366 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:25 CaveJohnson wrote: Exceptions can always be made Acro Not really. If you allow bus drivers to operate first, then you can get the weird situation where: A drives his bus from A to B. C roleblocks B, resulting in A being roleblocked. Now what? You can really only resolve this in one way: nobody is roleblocked. B can't be roleblocked, because he was bussed with A. A can't be roleblocked because he already performed his action (and if you roleblock A then massive time paradoxes happen). However, this means that bus drivers are immune to roleblocks, which makes an incredibly powerful role even MORE powerful. Not gonna happen. So, roleblocks HAVE to happen before bus drivers in order for there to be any kind of balance. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
When a roleblocker tries to roleblock someone who gets bussed, it happens after the bus stuff. Yes it's incredibly unlikely and snb is probably scum, but never say never. | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18366 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:43 phagga wrote: Ok, the main reason I am asking this is because if I was targeted in any way with the buss, I should have gotten a bussing night action, which I do not. But as I understand it, Theoratically snb could have been bussed to djo (though I agree that it makes no sense). What makes you think bus targets are notified? Honestly, the normal MO is for them not to be. Theoretically also not. I admit that bus drivers are not an easy role to understand, but Djo is one of the few people who we know could not have been on the receiving end of a bus with SnB, assuming Syllo targeted SnB. He had no spells left and would thus not have been able to target himself. @Everybody: why are we going to the end of time on the word of Drazerk? It's retarded. His reasoning so far has been: On December 03 2012 09:19 CaveJohnson wrote: If we go to the end of time we can learn magic. However he did flip scum so it might not happen but it is our best bet to get additional powers. On December 03 2012 09:37 CaveJohnson wrote: Another advantage for the end of time then - Its neutral ground since we've killed off one of its only residences. Equal playing field where we can't be surprised by interesting scum abilities. On December 04 2012 02:17 CaveJohnson wrote: Neutral ground is better than shaky ground. 600AD is probably the scariest place to be as far as possible scum abilities go. This is making me uneasy: I want to go anywhere Drazerk does not want to go. I don't think he has town interests and I don't think anybody following his reasoning is thinking straight. I don't care where we go, but Drazerk pushing for the End of Time is giving me juju feelings. 600AD gives Keirathi powers. Sounds good to me. Hell, the future gives Adam powers. Sounds good to me too. End of Time gives nobody powers (not Sandroba either, judging by his role pm). Lets not help Drazerk with whatever nefarious schemes he has. I don't trust him and anybody trusting Drazerk at any point in a game like this is a blithering idiot. I learned my lesson in HRM. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18366 Posts
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
On December 04 2012 06:44 Acrofales wrote: I didn't want you in the party when we couldn't be sure people would survive the party and your hidden modifier screwed that up. Anyway, I thought you got bonuses for being in 600 AD period. If you think it's pointless to go to 600 AD lets not. Lets just think about the End of Time deal which is basically Drazerk's little pet project. And Drazerks pet projects are terrible ideas to get involved in. I don't think it's pointless to go to 600AD as long as I get to be in the party. If we go to 600AD and I don't, then its pointless. | ||
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On December 04 2012 06:32 Acrofales wrote: What makes you think bus targets are notified? Honestly, the normal MO is for them not to be. Theoretically also not. I admit that bus drivers are not an easy role to understand, but Djo is one of the few people who we know could not have been on the receiving end of a bus with SnB, assuming Syllo targeted SnB. He had no spells left and would thus not have been able to target himself. I got this ability that anytime someone targets me with a night action, I get to use that action next night, remember? I asked Greymist just to be sure, I do not have a night action next night. Therefore, noone targeted me with anything last night. | ||
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CaveJohnson
278 Posts
On December 04 2012 06:32 Acrofales wrote: What makes you think bus targets are notified? Honestly, the normal MO is for them not to be. Theoretically also not. I admit that bus drivers are not an easy role to understand, but Djo is one of the few people who we know could not have been on the receiving end of a bus with SnB, assuming Syllo targeted SnB. He had no spells left and would thus not have been able to target himself. @Everybody: why are we going to the end of time on the word of Drazerk? It's retarded. His reasoning so far has been: This is making me uneasy: I want to go anywhere Drazerk does not want to go. I don't think he has town interests and I don't think anybody following his reasoning is thinking straight. I don't care where we go, but Drazerk pushing for the End of Time is giving me juju feelings. 600AD gives Keirathi powers. Sounds good to me. Hell, the future gives Adam powers. Sounds good to me too. End of Time gives nobody powers (not Sandroba either, judging by his role pm). Lets not help Drazerk with whatever nefarious schemes he has. I don't trust him and anybody trusting Drazerk at any point in a game like this is a blithering idiot. I learned my lesson in HRM. We don't need extra powers to win this game. There is no possible events which can happen at the end of time leaving only a lynch as the possible choice. It makes perfect sense logic wise. I've already stated I'm from 1000AD it gives me nothing. I will fight for the end of the time all cycle because that is where I think we will have the best chance of another lynch cycle and that is the greatest tool we can have as town. Ignore the fact that it is Drazerk suggesting this and think it as if I'm someone else. You know this makes sense. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:23 Acrofales wrote: Dug it up for you guys. Note that the date is after this game had started: Please Don't. Ask me in thread how something functions and I will tell you to the best of my ability. But please don't dig up things im saying in other threads as a way to "solve" this game. This is your final warning. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On December 04 2012 07:16 GreYMisT wrote: Please Don't. Ask me in thread how something functions and I will tell you to the best of my ability. But please don't dig up things im saying in other threads as a way to "solve" this game. This is your final warning. Do action resolutions work as-described by the post that Acro quoted? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
24 hours and VE still hasn't posted? Pew Pew. On December 04 2012 02:52 syllogism wrote: Prom says his role roleblocked everyone who attempted to visit Clarity. I'm not sure if I still understand how his role allegedly works though. Something to note is that I didn't visit Clarity last night, yet I was roleblocked. | ||
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:27 Hapahauli wrote: Do action resolutions work as-described by the post that Acro quoted? Assuming the standard version that all of the above roles are what we are talking about, then yes | ||
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