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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:26 GMT
#6041
Why did you say you didn't know Toad had a damaging ability when he claimed shooting you? Why does a town aligned player have a role that even when used on mafia, it is is likely to do more damage on town aligned players than on mafia? If the answer is that it can be used to "confirm" night actions, why did you not attempt to use it like that?

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. We'll see how things have developed once your alignment becomes more relevant.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17979 Posts
December 03 2012 17:28 GMT
#6042
@Phagga: while your ability seems to check out: you took 75 damage N5 and dealt 75 damage N6, does your copy tell you the name of the ability? If so, can you tell us what it was called?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 17:32 GMT
#6043
On December 04 2012 02:26 syllogism wrote:
Why did you say you didn't know Toad had a damaging ability when he claimed shooting you? Why does a town aligned player have a role that even when used on mafia, it is is likely to do more damage on town aligned players than on mafia? If the answer is that it can be used to "confirm" night actions, why did you not attempt to use it like that?

Anyway, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. We'll see how things have developed once your alignment becomes more relevant.


Oh huh, the Toad thing is funny. That actually never crossed my mind. For most of D3, I was running on the hypothesis that Toad had some sort of framer ability and used it on Hopeless. Needless to say that's wrong, and I never really drew the connection.

As for my "anti-town" ability - why don't you PM GreYMisT and ask him why he designed my ability the way he did? My guess is that the "collateral damage" is a balancing effect. Having straight-up 100 damage shots would be pretty overpowered from the town roles I've seen flipped so far.

As as using it to "confirm" night actions - I've been hesitant to use the ability precisely because of the collateral damage. My usage of it was limited to hitting confirmed scum to try and burst them down, and see if I could draw any connections. And I did try to draw connections, but had a brainfart in accounting for Toad's 100 damage ability.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 17:33 GMT
#6044
But it's so nice to actually have something to respond to as opposed to "someone like hapa must be scum" - keep it going.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:35 GMT
#6045
No, straight up 100 damage shots aren't overpowered at all.

Oh here is a question. Do you get some kind of bonus in your native era? Is this era 1000 AD?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 17:36 GMT
#6046
On December 04 2012 02:35 syllogism wrote:
No, straight up 100 damage shots aren't overpowered at all.

Oh here is a question. Do you get some kind of bonus in your native era? Is this era 1000 AD?


My role mentions that I'm from 1000 AD, but doesn't mention any bonus.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
December 03 2012 17:41 GMT
#6047
On December 04 2012 02:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 02:35 syllogism wrote:
No, straight up 100 damage shots aren't overpowered at all.

Oh here is a question. Do you get some kind of bonus in your native era? Is this era 1000 AD?


My role mentions that I'm from 1000 AD, but doesn't mention any bonus.

I can confirm that my role says the same thing
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
December 03 2012 17:44 GMT
#6048
Anyone find it wierd that I was roleblocked?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 17:44 GMT
#6049
I mean speculation wise, Lucca does receive some character-specific items in 1000AD in the actual game. She receives the Taban Vest somewhere towards the early/middle game, and then an upgraded Taban Vest + Gun in the end-game time-travelling phase before fighting Lavos. I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in this game, but that's all speculation and nothing more.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 03 2012 17:46 GMT
#6050
On December 04 2012 02:44 iamperfection wrote:
Anyone find it wierd that I was roleblocked?


Only because there haven't been that many unclaimed roleblocks, but blocking a healer makes sense.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
December 03 2012 17:47 GMT
#6051
On December 04 2012 02:28 Acrofales wrote:
@Phagga: while your ability seems to check out: you took 75 damage N5 and dealt 75 damage N6, does your copy tell you the name of the ability? If so, can you tell us what it was called?

No, it does not tell me the name.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:48 GMT
#6052
Hapa: but you thought hopeless was mafia in cycle 3 and we had already seen a framer role flip (sandroba)
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:48 GMT
#6053
On December 04 2012 02:44 iamperfection wrote:
Anyone find it wierd that I was roleblocked?

Didn't you visit clarity as well?
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 17:50 GMT
#6054
On December 04 2012 02:48 syllogism wrote:
Hapa: but you thought hopeless was mafia in cycle 3 and we had already seen a framer role flip (sandroba)


Me and my confirmation bias thought Toad was framing his scumbuddy to check out as green. Rational in retrospect? No. But it's what I was thinking at the time.

As for Sandroba flipping, so what? That says nothing about the abilities of other players.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9642 Posts
December 03 2012 17:51 GMT
#6055
I was trying to heal clarity
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 17:52 GMT
#6056
On December 04 2012 02:51 iamperfection wrote:
I was trying to heal clarity

Prom says his role roleblocked everyone who attempted to visit Clarity. I'm not sure if I still understand how his role allegedly works though.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 03 2012 17:58 GMT
#6057
On December 04 2012 02:52 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 02:51 iamperfection wrote:
I was trying to heal clarity

Prom says his role roleblocked everyone who attempted to visit Clarity. I'm not sure if I still understand how his role allegedly works though.


He places a seed and if it doesn't get triggered it turns into a shield. It gets triggered by people visiting whoever the seed is on, it'll roleblock anyone who tries to use an ability on the person with the seed.

I don't think prome put a seed on me this cycle though, I think he did last cycle? Or the one before.

Shit I don't remember, so many actions such a long game. Prome can you clarify please?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 18:02 GMT
#6058
Any more questions? I don't have much more time on my lunch break.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 03 2012 18:05 GMT
#6059
We are going to stop discussion about Host PMs right now. This is getting very close to using outside the game factors to try and "Solve" the game.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 03 2012 18:11 GMT
#6060
I don't think we've been discussing host pms ever since your last post, grey.....
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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