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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:14 GMT
#6001
right but host mistakes. My rb was activated. Though I'm pretty sure he would still be pointing Claritywards.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:15 GMT
#6002
He claimed visiting Clarity on two nights. I roleblocked+tracked him on the first one. He only activated your RB this cycle.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:17 GMT
#6003
oh, okay. Never you mind me. So why wouldn't he use his ability that night but claim to have used it? I don't see the scum motivation. Playing devil's advocate here but please, indulge me.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
December 03 2012 15:18 GMT
#6004
On December 04 2012 00:17 Promethelax wrote:
oh, okay. Never you mind me. So why wouldn't he use his ability that night but claim to have used it? I don't see the scum motivation. Playing devil's advocate here but please, indulge me.

why would he lie?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:19 GMT
#6005
On December 04 2012 00:18 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 00:17 Promethelax wrote:
oh, okay. Never you mind me. So why wouldn't he use his ability that night but claim to have used it? I don't see the scum motivation. Playing devil's advocate here but please, indulge me.

why would he lie?


that is the question I asked. yes. What does scum gain by claiming to target clarity but not doing it when they know we have a tracker.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
December 03 2012 15:22 GMT
#6006
On December 04 2012 00:19 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 00:18 iamperfection wrote:
On December 04 2012 00:17 Promethelax wrote:
oh, okay. Never you mind me. So why wouldn't he use his ability that night but claim to have used it? I don't see the scum motivation. Playing devil's advocate here but please, indulge me.

why would he lie?


that is the question I asked. yes. What does scum gain by claiming to target clarity but not doing it when they know we have a tracker.

it would make me think he was lying about his role
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:23 GMT
#6007
Well he would have needed a completely different claim to explain why he stayed home. I can't explain why other than that he made a mistake or thought that claiming this would be more believable.

Attempting to explain why mafia make mistakes is pointless. If S&B is mafia, he could have made a much more believable claim but did not. He could have visited phaga as instructed, but did not.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:25 GMT
#6008
so, you and I are not communicating clearly. What does scum gain by doing something which is confirm-ably not what they said they did? Why not just attack clarity, or claim not to have visited anyone? SnB and I have both done that thus far.

What is it that a scum Hapa would gain by not acting towards the player he claimed he had targeted? I can't see anything.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
December 03 2012 15:27 GMT
#6009
On December 03 2012 23:54 iamperfection wrote:
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On December 03 2012 10:20 Hapahauli wrote:
On December 03 2012 10:15 Keirathi wrote:
I'm inclined to believe that Hapa is telling the truth about the host PMs because I trust that Hapa is an honorable player. If he's the kind of person that would lie about something like that to win a game, then fuck that and I'll never play with him again.

I don't necessarily think that he's town again (it's hard to put aside the bias I already have), but the missing heal thing doesn't condemn him to me. I'll have another look through his filter again later, though.


<3

While you're there, please keep in mind some of my actions this game and see if they make sense from a scum perspective:
1) I was the first player to aggressively contest Toad's candidacy for party leader.
2) I was amongst the first to vote Toad on the D2 lynch (the 2nd player I think) and pushed for his lynch. Does it make sense for mafia to turn down an easy bussing opportunity (Sandro) in order to put heavy suspicion on another scumteam member?
3) Toad claimed to shoot me for 100 damage (BEFORE he gave up on the game and BEFORE Acro's check). If I'm lying about the 100 damage, who else could Toad have plausibly targeted?

Like hapa brought up great points here and you have basically ignored them entirely. Instead just shouting still scum for host pm reasons.

I can confirmation bias those points into being scummy with little effort. That doesn't prove anything. In fact, its a point against Hapa in my opinion to display those points as though scum would never do them. That said, while I have my reservations about him, I have no interest in pursuing his lynch until later this game, if at all.

SnB gets my vote for now unless someone can account for why he may have targeted djodref against his will. Anything short of a redirect claim means he gets the lynch.

I'm going to get around to that case on Z-Boson I promised like 4 cycles ago tonight.

##Lynch: StrongandBig
##Epoch: End of Time

I haven't thought much about where I want to go yet. At least Spekkio's already dead so there shouldn't be any more scum getting potential era bonuses by going there.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:27 GMT
#6010
Draz: why the end of time?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
December 03 2012 15:27 GMT
#6011
you are acting very weird prom.

When hapa brought up points that pointed to his defense you shout scum.

When points are brought up that point to him being scum you defend him.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:28 GMT
#6012
Open minded. You should try it sometime. I think he is scum I think Syllo is attacking him with shit reasons. I don't like either of those things.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
December 03 2012 15:28 GMT
#6013
On December 04 2012 00:27 iamperfection wrote:
you are acting very weird prom.

When hapa brought up points that pointed to his defense you shout scum.

When points are brought up that point to him being scum you defend him.


I think it's not weird at all. When he makes points he believe them, when others make points he is critical. Seems normal to me
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
December 03 2012 15:30 GMT
#6014
On December 04 2012 00:28 Promethelax wrote:
Open minded. You should try it sometime. I think he is scum I think Syllo is attacking him with shit reasons. I don't like either of those things.

I'm the most open minded person in the world
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:32 GMT
#6015
If he had attacked Clarity or someone, that person would have taken damage. I'm done having this conversation as I don't need to convince you of anything.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:32 GMT
#6016
I'm being an asshole because I am tired and annoyed. Sorry.

Clarity: cool that you are defending me but I got this. How about some scum hunting? Or Contribution.

Draz: you are my least favourite ninja. Come here and tell me about the end of time.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:32 GMT
#6017
I retract that point because it's very dumb.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
December 03 2012 15:33 GMT
#6018
Sy: why did you get all defensive there? What just happened to you?
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
December 03 2012 15:34 GMT
#6019
I think you are not a person who can easily be reasoned with.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
December 03 2012 15:36 GMT
#6020
On December 04 2012 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 00:12 syllogism wrote:
He also didn't go anywhere on the night that he claimed having visited Clarity

Well hapa? what say you.


I don't think syllo is lying, but as stated previously, I did attempt to protect nl_clarity. The only way I can think of how this works is if I was roleblocked by another player.

On December 04 2012 00:08 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 00:03 iamperfection wrote:
On December 03 2012 23:59 syllogism wrote:
Iamperfection I don't care if you believe Hapa is town (he isn't), but at least don't heal him again

my heals have been great this game

Absolutely, I didn't mean to criticize your choices so far.

1However, you should read Hapa's claim again to see if it makes sense, even if you don't find a problem with the rest of his play. He claims his ability does 100 damage to the person he targets and then 75 to the target of his target and finally 50 to the next in the chain. He claims he targeted Toad twice with this amazingly towny ability, even knowing that Toad has a damaging ability. Essentially he says he inflicted 100 damage on someone he thinks mafia (Toad) while at the same time not caring about the fact the rest of his damage would likely hit town (125 overall).

2He also never attempted to figure out who Toad had been targeting with his 100 damage draining ability, as evidenced by the fact that today he was still under the impression that Toad's target would have taken 75 damage (instead of 175, since Toad's own ability does 100 damage).


1) I didn't know Toad had a damaging ability. I weighed the risks and rewards of getting rid of toad early (and thus allowing more discussion on scumhunting - did you not see ALL my rantings on the subject earlier in the game?) vs. collateral damage. I firmly believe I acted in the best interests of the town in shooting toad. I really dont' care if you disagree.

2) I did attempt to figure it out. All this proves is that I had a brainfart.
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