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Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 10:16 Intact wrote:
I've been on the phone with my isp all day, if stuff isnt working soon I will have to ask for replacement. Cant make any serious posts from my cellphone. I don't want to speak for the rest of the town, but that hold's no credibility with me. Also, I'm still wondering where the other lurkers are. It's been a lot of the same people posting for a while now and it'd be nice to get some insight from iamperfection, blind-rawr, and bobthelob - who I hope doesn't think I forgotten about in the mists of his low altitude. We're also still waiting for our new member's first contribution.
I have to agree here, Intact if you want to convince us you have plenty of places you can go to type up a small paragraph or two to help your case, a library or something would be fine
On July 03 2012 14:32 sciberbia wrote:Next up: BobTheLobscummy bandwaggoning on anacletus + Show Spoiler +On June 30 2012 02:05 BobTheLob wrote:
##Vote Analectus
This seems to be the only course of action right now... But I'm prepared to change my mind if someone else starts acting very odd.
I believe this is the fifth vote on Anacletus. This is the first time BobtheLob has even mentioned Anacletus (or made any relevant posts for that matter). Quite a scummy bandwaggon vote with abysmal reasoning behind it. uses scummy excuses such as "newbie" and "lurking playstyle": + Show Spoiler +On July 01 2012 02:44 BobTheLob wrote:Just as a small defence for myself, I never post much and rarely post more than a few lines, it's just how I post as for bandwagoning... I'm new  I have next to no idea what I'm doing and despite having read up on all of the resources still am a bit lost. As for reads, I just have a feeling about Anacletus, but whether or not he's scum I have no idea the same with Fencer. I didn't post earlier because I just woke up and last night I was playing a game of Civ IV with my friends :D The "I'm a newbie" excuse is a well documented ploy by newbie scum. It is an ingratiating maneuver -- attempting to gain sympathy. Townies don't have any motivation to convince everyone how newbie they are; it only makes their cases seem less credible. Not only does he state a newbie excuse in this post, but he makes very noncomittal statements about Anacletus and Fencer. Scum never want to be held accountable for any of their reads or votes. On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote:
Okay, I've lurked this entire game and I'm starting to realize that that is a bad idea... And here he admits to consciously lurking. What? This is scummy. Townies have strong motivation not to lurk -- we need to hunt out the scum. Extremely noncomittal scumhunting + Show Spoiler +I already pointed out how he was super wishy/washy about Fencer and Anacletus. Here is the only other post of BobTheLob's where he posts some real reads: On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote:
People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive
Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them
Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue
Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above
AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either
Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong
Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know
That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up
Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower?
You could summarize this post as "I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. No idea. Thinking town but could be wrong. I don't know." Townies should actively hunt out scummy behavior and form suspicions. BobTheLob does not.
I've tried to hunt scum down but, like the rest of us I have found nothing saying that POSTER X IS SCUM. The major difference is that I didn't state any thing in regards to people I think are very scummy. Intact seems to be up next on the block, or if not him then me or Blind, but no-matter what people are going to do a lot of guessing here.
We are still trying to get a good lynch, but unfortunately we can't find conclusive evidence and are mostly just pointing fingers at each other. The scum are probably laughing at all of us right now, and while I realize that this is still only the second day I have a feeling that if we don't lynch a scum this time around people will just point fingers at people who haven't been contributing as much (As you are doing [not that I can fault you for that] ) and we will continue to get no where.
So to address your concerns: I'm a regular townie no roles or anything and am just trying to get by, I believe that Blind is probably one as well and that Intact seems suspicious, also fencars replacement gets a free live an extra day card because we probably wont just lynch him first day either but we would have if it was still him playing.
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Will be leaving in about 5 minuets so if you have a response to my post please post the gist of it now so I can respond
Sleep deprivation's a bitch
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I just had this post almost finished, and my computer spontaneously rebooted. As with yesterday, I'm posting during my lunch break, so I'm going to have to summarize as best I can. If any of my points are unclear, just ask and I'll clarify later on.
The four players against which the strongest cases have been made are Intact, BobTheLob, Blind-Rawr and Hopeless1der.
Hopeless1der: Reformed bad town?
I agree with sciberbia that Hopeless1der looks better as time goes on, and I'm swinging more toward giving him the BotD. I think that I may have been too biased against him by my own vote on him day 1, and didn't give his play since that vote sufficient consideration. Especially this post:
I'm hesitant to think that all 3 scum would vote for Anacletus like that, but my top 3 reads are Fencer710, Intact, and BLinD-RawR
feels townie to me. The whole post is a decent case on Blind-Rawr, and given the odds that that group he names has two scum in it, it's an improbable bus attempt (you can bus one guy, bussing two would seem careless.) I don't consider Hopeless completely out of the woods yet, but he's absolutely not our best lynch candidate.
Intact: Still the best shot
I agree with the gist of sciberbia's reads of BobTheLob and Blind-Rawr: They both look fishy. I especially don't like BobTheLob's long, rambling post with random sections bolded saying nothing at all. However, I think the strongest part of sciberbia's case against both is their bandwaggoning on the Anacletus vote. Given that the majority of players didn't post any well-reasoned argument to back up their vote, I don't think that that argument is strong enough.
I still feel that the case against Intact is the stronger case, and that he's our best chance to flip red tonight.
##Vote Intact
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Come on guys, seriously? We're going to have no discussion in the last 12 hours before our lynch?
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First I just want to say how stupidly scummy this post is: this is a guy who has been reading the thread and keeping up wth it but doesn't post until a case on him is made. As soon as his name comes up he is here to tell us his interenet doesn't work. Sure buddy, sure.
On July 03 2012 10:16 Intact wrote:
I've been on the phone with my isp all day, if stuff isnt working soon I will have to ask for replacement. Cant make any serious posts from my cellphone.
Now, onto our newest member and his cases:
Welcome Sciberia! I'm glad to have another guy in here and posting sensibly with you here I feel like we have a decent shot at winning this. We have been down too many players from lurking and needing replacements, I'm glad you are here to actually contribute.
I disagree with your posts on Intact, I still think he looks like the strongest scum read right now. Especially after his obvious lurking and totally useless response to my case on him. I'm glad you are looking at things with a new eye but I just have to disagree with you: Bob and Blind both look scummy but more in a tinged red sort of way. Intact is glaringly bright red and I'm going to go for the guy who is most likely to flip scum. If, somehow, I am wrong, I promise I'll take a much deeper look at Blind-Rawr and Bob both.
I have made my case on Intact and I'll stick to it, I think it is right and since I think that Fencar is scum too I'm not willing to let two scum players lurk in the purgatory of not quite getting mod-killed and ignore them. I truly believe that Intact is scum and have made my case, his defense only adds to my belief that he is red and with the lynch tonight I hope we prove it.
I have to go to work now and won't be back until after the deadline. Good luck.
##Vote: Intact
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Umlat: Feel free to discuss my post and I hope that Sciberia's and yours will also spark some discussion unfortunately I have to go to work and I don't get breaks so I won't be able to contribute until I get home tonight.
Sorry I couldn't have posted that ten minutes earlier so we actually got a chance to discuss it but there it is, if you have anything to say about it I still have about five minutes before I leave for work.
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Ok, everything is working now so I'm gonna try and defend myself. Atm it seems like I am on the chopblock due to being percieved as a lurker aswell as generally poor posting. To people pointing out my short and not very well tohught out posts, my answer is two fold. First, this is my first game of mafia and I've made some bad misstakes, the biggest of them not being patient enough and starting the bandwagon on analectus. I did feel very good about my read and his actions after being accused seemed to back it up. My second explanation for poor posting is that the way I think is not very well suited for town play. I can read the thread ove and over and not come up with anything and then while playing a game or doing work or whatever an idea pops up and I feel like I should post as soon as I can because I have a tendency to forget stuff like that very fast. This is obviously going to come off as very scummy posts.
Now, on to some more specific explanations:
On June 29 2012 23:28 Intact wrote:
##Vote Analectus
No discussion, no thoughts, just hopping on board.
After promethelax comes in to push his case on Fencer (which no one but me really took to), Intact sees this as a very suspicious move. Promethelax is attempting to flesh out multiple cases on day 1 instead of tunnelling one person, and Intact deems that scum behaviour because it might split the town and cause tension. On the other hand, Anacletus flipped town, so Promethelax had the right idea going after someone else.
Explanation:
+ Show Spoiler + The no discussion claim is simply false, Even though I did not write anything in the vote post I was the first to bring up analectus and tyring to make a logical case against him. I did not just jump on the bandwagon, I posted my thoughts more than once before voting. The reasons I suspected promethelax was that I truly believed in my read of analectus and to me promethelax post seemed like a desperation move to save him. This obviously turned out not to be true.
On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote:
In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies.
This is not true in the slightest and just screams scum to me. JH quickly picks up on it:
That last line in the spoiler is the biggest point here. Intact is assuming that a lynch would reveal perfect information about who voted. That cant work since town must be involved in the mislynch, so how could you know with certainty who is scum and who is town? Unless you're scum, you cant possibly know after a D1 Lynch.
Explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +Here, my only defence is poor play, which admittedly is not a very strong case. I'd like to remind you that this is my first ever game of mafia and at the time this did seems completely logical to me, although I've figured out that I assume way to much
On June 29 2012 20:22 Intact wrote:
I think I saw this type of play in a previous mafia game. Not sure which one though. There were 2 mafia who argued agressivly towards eachother early on. This reminds me of that occasion.
This is basically Intact's first move of the game: A vague reference to how maybe JH and Anacletus might both be scum, but presented in such a way that it's easy to distance yourself from later on. I acknowledge that I responded with agreement that this could be a useful bit of analysis if one of them flipped red, but knowing that both were town makes this look like an attempt to get discussion moving toward a mislynch.
Explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +I don't see how this is suspicious or scummy at all, I'm trying to make a read and be a little meta. Also, it is promoting discussion. Ofcourse it looked bad after analectus and JH flipped town, but this was just me posting my thoughts and observations and trying to promote discussion
On June 30 2012 10:29 Intact wrote:
I'm going to stand by my read as analectus being scum but I have also become very suspicious of promethelax. People may have been bandwagoning analectus but as soon as he got into lynching territory promethelax show up with a long thread pointing out someone else, thereby making some people switch vote. This causes divisions and tensions among the town which is exactly what the scum want. I lean more towards fencer just playing badly and promethelax trying to save his scum partner analectus.
I really don't see anything suspicious about Promethelax's case against Fencer. I think I'm not alone when I say that he's around the top of the suspects list at the moment. What about Promethelax's analysis of Fencer's play seemed suspicious? This seems like an attempt to just sow dissent without any real logic behind it.
Explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +As I have explanied earlier, I was really convinced of my read as analectus being scum and thus promethelax coming out with a late post to save him seemed to fit perfectly with what my read was. Later this turned out to be all wrong ofcourse
On June 30 2012 10:48 Intact wrote:
In addition, should we lynch analectus and he turns put to be mafia, it would make it fairly easy to point out the other mafia. And if he turns out to be townie it would be very easy to confirm some townies.
Anacletus was, in fact, one of the good guys. We banned him. By what logic are we now able to confirm some townies? This post is just stupid, and to me it stinks of someone who is playing with the full information that a PBU has, and hasn't thought through the logic of the limited information environment that we town players are in enough to fake logical conclusions that sound like they were made by a townie.
Explanation:
+ Show Spoiler +Already explained this but my only defence is bad play and posting without thinking it through. It did seem logical to me when I posted
Show nested quote +Im not claiming he is scum, I'm simply pointing out the observations I've made- And I felt like the ball had to get rolling. Intact tries to call Myles scum and as soon as I suggest that he commmit to his read he backs off saying that he just felt that he had to get the bandwag- err ball rolling.
+ Show Spoiler +Again, I'm just trying to get discussion going early on. I realize I was a bit too eager to get a read off and again I'm gonna have to point to my inexperience.
That should cover it for the moment, I'll post my reads shortly after thinking them through, been mostly concerned with defending myself the lasts couple of days.
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Intact, you don't seem very convincing. A lot of your explanation is bad play or "I really thought Anacletus was scum'. I while I agree that Anacletus looked scummy(I did vote for him afterall) your reasoning for FoS on Prom is really odd when you readily admitted the bandwagon was strong. I'm also not quite sure how you would feel so strongly about Anacletus - I could be looking back with some form of rose-colored glasses, but while he seemed like the best bet, I don't think I would have ever called it close to sure thing.+ Show Spoiler +On June 29 2012 21:37 Intact wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 20:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
yes I do see that their argument seems lacking but that is also because analectus seems be quite uncooperative with Jingle therefore the argument itself seems to be quite pointless.
Intact, any reads so far? My first guess was Myles, however he is no longer on top of the list(although I will keep an eye on him). I'm leaning mostly towards Analectus, his posts contain very little of value and seems more like a way to avoid being branded a lurker. And like I said before I have seen scum play that is similar to what JH and Analectus is doing. On June 29 2012 23:28 Intact wrote:
##Vote Analectus On June 30 2012 10:29 Intact wrote:
I'm going to stand by my read as analectus being scum but I have also become very suspicious of promethelax. People may have been bandwagoning analectus but as soon as he got into lynching territory promethelax show up with a long thread pointing out someone else, thereby making some people switch vote. This causes divisions and tensions among the town which is exactly what the scum want. I lean more towards fencer just playing badly and promethelax trying to save his scum partner analectus.
Also, why are you claiming ignorance with this post + Show Spoiler +Here, my only defence is poor play, which admittedly is not a very strong case. I'd like to remind you that this is my first ever game of mafia and at the time this did seems completely logical to me, although I've figured out that I assume way to much
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EBWOP - add 'one of' between 'when' and 'your' and change 'read' to 'reads' in the sentence "Also, why are you claiming ignorance with this post + Show Spoiler + when your first read"
so that it says "Also, why are you claiming ignorance with this post + Show Spoiler + when one of your first reads"
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Based on Intact's defensive post, and the lack of reads, I'm thoroughly inclined to vote for him. I'm willing to give about 4 hours before I'll cast my vote, but if there is no one looking that much scummier (and it's pretty much up to Intact to point them out) he's very likely getting the lynch.
Also of note, Promethelax's vote is locked (according to him being at work and all.)
Vote Count please?
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Not sure if Ghost is on right now. According to my count, the votes are currently:
Hopeless1der (1): Fencar
BlinD-RawR (1): sciberbia
Intact (2): AmericanUmlaut, Promethelax
Since Fencar is still technically alive, I guess we need five to ban?
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On July 03 2012 23:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
Based on Intact's defensive post, and the lack of reads, I'm thoroughly inclined to vote for him. I'm willing to give about 4 hours before I'll cast my vote, but if there is no one looking that much scummier (and it's pretty much up to Intact to point them out) he's very likely getting the lynch.
Also of note, Promethelax's vote is locked (according to him being at work and all.)
Vote Count please?
By my count:
Hopeless1der: Fencar
BLinD-Rawr (1): sciberbia
Intact (2): AmericanUmlaut, Promethelax
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On July 03 2012 14:48 sciberbia wrote:
Okay it is just about time for me to call it a day.
I quickly read through the filters of Hopeless1der and Fencar. On first read, Fencar actually looks townie to me. I would really not like to lynch him today, and I hope he is not modkilled.
I'm not so sure about Hopeless1der. He looks scummy for the first half of his filter, and then it's like he turns on a switch and starts posting some good analysis on Intact and others. I want to see more from him and don't think he's a good lynch today.
Who I think we should lynch today
Fencar and Intact seem to be the popular targets.
My cursory opinion is that Fencar is town. Also, he is getting modkilled/replaced. I'd really not like to lynch him today.
I think Intact might be scum, but I'm not convinced. I think we have better targets, and I'd not like to lynch Intact today.
As I've said, both BobTheLob and BLinD-RawR look quite scummy to me. I'd be shocked if neither was scum and wouldn't be surprised if both are scum. I feel strongly that we should lynch one of these two today. I feel stronger about BLinD-Rawr.
My schedule
I'm going to sleep now, and then I'll be at work from the time I get up through the deadline. So I can't do any more significant reading or posting until after the lynch. I assure you that I will be following the thread from work though. You can count on me changing my vote to the majority candidate before the deadline if that is what is needed to prevent a No-Lynch.
But for now, I'm feeling more confident about BLinD-Rawr than BobTheLob, so I will
##Vote BLinD-Rawr
I agree with a lot of the points you laid out here but i dont agree with the final conclusion. Blindy has been like several others lurking (myself included) The case that you put up against him not even close to how strong of an argument that you put out on bobthelob.
This post in particular is the one that bothers me
On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote:
Okay, I've lurked this entire game and I'm starting to realize that that is a bad idea, now on the topic of reads: iamperfection and I am very fucking suspicious We're screwed by nature of our habits. See lurking
People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive
Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them
Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue
Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above
AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either
Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong
Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know
That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up
Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower?
As you pointed out this is very wishy washy but also this only serves as attempt to confuse the town and drive us all against each other. He is effectivly saying " hey you know who scould be scum. Everybody" He could then still stay off to the sideline with his non commitment when the lynching dosent go the towns way.
What do we really have on blindy to go on besides lurking. He has given limited reads like my fellow lurkers but of the reads he did give he gave one right one in thinking jingle was town. In my view Blind has been trying to help the town while bob had been trying to hurt us.
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EBWOP: blindy is the nickname for blind-rawr
doubleEBWOP: blindy is the nickname for blind-rawr even if denies it.
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On July 04 2012 00:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On July 03 2012 14:48 sciberbia wrote:
Okay it is just about time for me to call it a day.
I quickly read through the filters of Hopeless1der and Fencar. On first read, Fencar actually looks townie to me. I would really not like to lynch him today, and I hope he is not modkilled.
I'm not so sure about Hopeless1der. He looks scummy for the first half of his filter, and then it's like he turns on a switch and starts posting some good analysis on Intact and others. I want to see more from him and don't think he's a good lynch today.
Who I think we should lynch today
Fencar and Intact seem to be the popular targets.
My cursory opinion is that Fencar is town. Also, he is getting modkilled/replaced. I'd really not like to lynch him today.
I think Intact might be scum, but I'm not convinced. I think we have better targets, and I'd not like to lynch Intact today.
As I've said, both BobTheLob and BLinD-RawR look quite scummy to me. I'd be shocked if neither was scum and wouldn't be surprised if both are scum. I feel strongly that we should lynch one of these two today. I feel stronger about BLinD-Rawr.
My schedule
I'm going to sleep now, and then I'll be at work from the time I get up through the deadline. So I can't do any more significant reading or posting until after the lynch. I assure you that I will be following the thread from work though. You can count on me changing my vote to the majority candidate before the deadline if that is what is needed to prevent a No-Lynch.
But for now, I'm feeling more confident about BLinD-Rawr than BobTheLob, so I will
##Vote BLinD-Rawr I agree with a lot of the points you laid out here but i dont agree with the final conclusion. Blindy has been like several others lurking (myself included) The case that you put up against him not even close to how strong of an argument that you put out on bobthelob. This post in particular is the one that bothers me Show nested quote +On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote:
Okay, I've lurked this entire game and I'm starting to realize that that is a bad idea, now on the topic of reads: iamperfection and I am very fucking suspicious We're screwed by nature of our habits. See lurking
People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive
Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them
Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue
Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above
AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either
Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong
Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know
That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up
Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower?
As you pointed out this is very wishy washy but also this only serves as attempt to confuse the town and drive us all against each other. He is effectivly saying " hey you know who scould be scum. Everybody" He could then still stay off to the sideline with his non commitment when the lynching dosent go the towns way. What do we really have on blindy to go on besides lurking. He has given limited reads like my fellow lurkers but of the reads he did give he gave one right one in thinking jingle was town. In my view Blind has been trying to help the town while bob had been trying to hurt us.
Bolding that bit because I still think its true, most of my recent posts have been the same thing. Nobody has anything conclusive, it's all guesswork and assumptions. I've admitted that I lurked to much and have also made a point to try posting more, but even so it seems that just made people take more notice of me, Blind is still lurking a lot more than me but I seem to be taking a lot of the heat off of the people who we thought before were scummy, Intact, Hopeless ect. While I agree that Hopeless has made a good case for himself It shouldn't stop people from looking at him more closely.
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On July 04 2012 01:24 BobTheLob wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2012 00:29 iamperfection wrote:On July 03 2012 14:48 sciberbia wrote:
Okay it is just about time for me to call it a day.
I quickly read through the filters of Hopeless1der and Fencar. On first read, Fencar actually looks townie to me. I would really not like to lynch him today, and I hope he is not modkilled.
I'm not so sure about Hopeless1der. He looks scummy for the first half of his filter, and then it's like he turns on a switch and starts posting some good analysis on Intact and others. I want to see more from him and don't think he's a good lynch today.
Who I think we should lynch today
Fencar and Intact seem to be the popular targets.
My cursory opinion is that Fencar is town. Also, he is getting modkilled/replaced. I'd really not like to lynch him today.
I think Intact might be scum, but I'm not convinced. I think we have better targets, and I'd not like to lynch Intact today.
As I've said, both BobTheLob and BLinD-RawR look quite scummy to me. I'd be shocked if neither was scum and wouldn't be surprised if both are scum. I feel strongly that we should lynch one of these two today. I feel stronger about BLinD-Rawr.
My schedule
I'm going to sleep now, and then I'll be at work from the time I get up through the deadline. So I can't do any more significant reading or posting until after the lynch. I assure you that I will be following the thread from work though. You can count on me changing my vote to the majority candidate before the deadline if that is what is needed to prevent a No-Lynch.
But for now, I'm feeling more confident about BLinD-Rawr than BobTheLob, so I will
##Vote BLinD-Rawr I agree with a lot of the points you laid out here but i dont agree with the final conclusion. Blindy has been like several others lurking (myself included) The case that you put up against him not even close to how strong of an argument that you put out on bobthelob. This post in particular is the one that bothers me On July 01 2012 09:03 BobTheLob wrote:
Okay, I've lurked this entire game and I'm starting to realize that that is a bad idea, now on the topic of reads: iamperfection and I am very fucking suspicious We're screwed by nature of our habits. See lurking
People are bandwagoning onto fencer now I agree he was acting odd but it's not conclusive
Jingle and Promethelax are working together quite well and the rest of us are just following them. They seem to have alot of the same ideas... paying attention to them
Myles hasn't posted to little or to much, he's playing it super safe. Not a clue
Blind is, more or less in the same boat as me albeit a bit less so. See above
AmericanUmlaut is doing quite well all his moves are well thought out but we still have no idea what side he's on could be one could be the other. No idea for him either
Hopeless1der also seems to be the victim of a bit of bandwagoning but he seems pretty cool I'm thinking he's a town but hey I could be wrong
Lastly Intact has been promoting conversation since the game began but seems to be in the same boat as me and perfection in that he hasn't posted enough. also not posting enough but I don't know
That's all I got, keeping in mind that we have only one death so far and the night is going to be the most important bit so far because as Jingle said, the scum will try to set someone up
Do games normally move this pace or faster/slower?
As you pointed out this is very wishy washy but also this only serves as attempt to confuse the town and drive us all against each other. He is effectivly saying " hey you know who scould be scum. Everybody" He could then still stay off to the sideline with his non commitment when the lynching dosent go the towns way. What do we really have on blindy to go on besides lurking. He has given limited reads like my fellow lurkers but of the reads he did give he gave one right one in thinking jingle was town. In my view Blind has been trying to help the town while bob had been trying to hurt us. Bolding that bit because I still think its true, most of my recent posts have been the same thing. Nobody has anything conclusive, it's all guesswork and assumptions. I've admitted that I lurked to much and have also made a point to try posting more, but even so it seems that just made people take more notice of me, Blind is still lurking a lot more than me but I seem to be taking a lot of the heat off of the people who we thought before were scummy, Intact, Hopeless ect. While I agree that Hopeless has made a good case for himself It shouldn't stop people from looking at him more closely.
So look at him more closely and share your thoughts. If you're town you should be helping us scum hunt and not explaining how scum hunting is impossible
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