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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 16 2010 05:37 GMT
#461
On November 16 2010 13:35 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 13:03 Chezinu wrote:
unless 10 attacked 11 and 11 attacked 10 and they canceled out? Does it work that way?


Actually, I think that's the best explanation because Caller said 11's army was elsewhere.

Another thing to note, nothing happened with 18 nor 14. Now this brings up an interesting case. Let's start with 18 first:
Clearly 19 attacked 17... but why attack 17 when 18, a neutral territory, is right by? Furthermore, how did 17 get taken over without taking over 14?
Hmm, well, there are 3 actions possible for 17.
If they defended, yet were defeated, then obviously 19 and either 16 or 20 are mafia.
If they attacked, then they most likely attacked 14, but that didn't work because the attack canceled out with someone else (20). Obviously they aren't the same faction, so why would 20 be suspected of Mafia over 17? Because 19 attacked 17 instead of going after 18 indicating sureness in winning that battle. (Hmmm, idk if Caller reports stale-mated battles.)
I doubt 17 would assist someone unless they have a heavy PM circle going on.
However, what would be the MOST helpful would be if 15 claimed to us what they did.
If 15 attacked 18, 16 must've also attacked 18.
If 15 defended, then 16 COULDN'T have attacked 18, 19, NOR 13. 16 could've attacked 15 or 17. If 17, then he's mafia. If 15, then 20's mafia. Which means, if we can get a role claim from 2 of the three: 15, 16, and 20, we can most likely nail 2 mafias.
If 15 assisted, telling us who they assisted would help a lot as well.

Anyway, from what I can tell here, I'm guessing 19 is probably Mafia, 16 might be Mafia based on what 15 does, and 20 has a higher chance of being mafia than 16.

Btw, Batmania and Land of Preemptive Retaliation both seem to be eliminated now, do we get the player's name who were eliminated? Also, we seem to have 5 nations with 2 territories now (1&3, 4&8, 5&6, 11&13, and 17&19) Do these nations get to attack twice/defend twice/send aid twice or only once?

a) no
b) no once only
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Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 16 2010 05:39 GMT
#462
only thing that country occupation does is +1 Vote ok.
what happens to the people who have no land right now?
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 16 2010 05:40 GMT
#463
should i remove them from list on map or...
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 16 2010 05:45 GMT
#464
On November 16 2010 14:40 Coagulation wrote:
should i remove them from list on map or...

eh keep em there so people know who they were
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-16 06:22:38
November 16 2010 06:20 GMT
#465
The Seeking of an objective to obtain the title of Winner


      Once upon a time, there was a kingdom. In this kingdom there was a lord. The lord's name was Chezinu. Chezinu felt pleased with his peasants as they nicknamed the land, "Chezinuisawesomia." Chezinuisawesomia was a peculiar place to dwell to the surrounding kingdoms. The surrounding kingdoms seldom heard about the livelihood of the inhabitants. The inhabitants never wanted to leave the great land for they were at peace. Peace is what held together every member of the land in one piece. Each piece would meet together and discuss all of the wonderful things that their great leader provided for the citizens. The citizens came to the conclusion that even if their leader were to watch over the whole world that there would not be victory. Victory cannot be accomplished because the Caller has not set a win condition for lords such as theirs'. Theirs' is of course greater than the other lords that surround the ever bizarre yet amazing dwellings. Dwellings that will remain at peace and never at victory even if all the mafia and all the communist cease to exist in the world that is known by the Great Lord Chezinu. Chezinu wants a way to win the game for conquering the world known to him means nothing without an objective that states that he will be a winner if he chooses to do so. So, everyone in the land of the Great Lord Chezinu even Chezinu himself sought for the Caller to grant the Lord Chezinu an objective to enable him to be called a Winner.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
November 16 2010 06:35 GMT
#466
On November 16 2010 15:20 Chezinu wrote:
The Seeking of an objective to obtain the title of Winner


      Once upon a time, there was a kingdom. In this kingdom there was a lord. The lord's name was Chezinu. Chezinu felt pleased with his peasants as they nicknamed the land, "Chezinuisawesomia." Chezinuisawesomia was a peculiar place to dwell to the surrounding kingdoms. The surrounding kingdoms seldom heard about the livelihood of the inhabitants. The inhabitants never wanted to leave the great land for they were at peace. Peace is what held together every member of the land in one piece. Each piece would meet together and discuss all of the wonderful things that their great leader provided for the citizens. The citizens came to the conclusion that even if their leader were to watch over the whole world that there would not be victory. Victory cannot be accomplished because the Caller has not set a win condition for lords such as theirs'. Theirs' is of course greater than the other lords that surround the ever bizarre yet amazing dwellings. Dwellings that will remain at peace and never at victory even if all the mafia and all the communist cease to exist in the world that is known by the Great Lord Chezinu. Chezinu wants a way to win the game for conquering the world known to him means nothing without an objective that states that he will be a winner if he chooses to do so. So, everyone in the land of the Great Lord Chezinu even Chezinu himself sought for the Caller to grant the Lord Chezinu an objective to enable him to be called a Winner.

if you wipe out all unified threats to your rule then you should have no problem taking over the rest of the world amirite
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 16 2010 06:57 GMT
#467
On November 16 2010 13:35 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 13:03 Chezinu wrote:
unless 10 attacked 11 and 11 attacked 10 and they canceled out? Does it work that way?


Actually, I think that's the best explanation because Caller said 11's army was elsewhere.


You're right, I missed this.

On November 16 2010 05:12 Caller wrote:
The Kingdom of Whoring appeared to have made the first move today, sacking the undefended Batmania while its army was elsewhere.


On November 16 2010 13:35 ghrur wrote:
Btw, Batmania and Land of Preemptive Retaliation both seem to be eliminated now, do we get the player's name who were eliminated? Also, we seem to have 5 nations with 2 territories now (1&3, 4&8, 5&6, 11&13, and 17&19) Do these nations get to attack twice/defend twice/send aid twice or only once?


By the way, your answer to these were addressed in the same post.

On November 16 2010 05:12 Caller wrote:
(mod note: eliminated players are not removed from the game just yet. in fact if you have been eliminated you should PM me.)

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 16 2010 07:03 GMT
#468
OK HI, I AM BACK.

apparently i get banned for posting "this" in a thread requesting hot korean girls. as if 150 other posters dont do this and not get banned =\

anyway i read ghrur's post and i like the logic

i am 20. i am an empowered town. i am not revealing which power it is that i have.

i got attacked last night. i was defending. the attack failed.


lets see another claim and we can start to win this game.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 16 2010 07:05 GMT
#469
ps this also means either 24 or 21 attacked me.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 16 2010 07:07 GMT
#470
On November 16 2010 16:05 annul wrote:
ps this also means either 24 or 21 attacked me.

why not 17?
I can already see the ending
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 16 2010 07:08 GMT
#471
because 17 took 19 so couldnt have hit me?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 16 2010 07:09 GMT
#472
(or 19 took 17)
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 16 2010 07:10 GMT
#473
On November 16 2010 16:08 annul wrote:
because 17 took 19 so couldnt have hit me?


Actually, I think 19 took 17.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
November 16 2010 07:19 GMT
#474
19 took 17, so I suppose 17 could have attacked you (unlikely though) to account for 19 taking over 17
I can already see the ending
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 16 2010 07:24 GMT
#475
[image loading]

NEW MAP
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 16 2010 07:32 GMT
#476
oh i see what you mean

yes 17 could have hit me as well, yes.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 16 2010 07:38 GMT
#477
What I think we need is to have someone explain to us what effect "eliminated" players can still have on this game.

If it's not top-secret or should be hidden from the mafia, then maybe Players 11 and 17 can explain what happened last night. That might help reduce the confusion and possibly catch a Red.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 16 2010 07:39 GMT
#478
On November 16 2010 16:24 Coagulation wrote:
[image loading]

NEW MAP


Thanks! =)

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
November 16 2010 07:44 GMT
#479
On November 16 2010 16:38 kingjames01 wrote:
What I think we need is to have someone explain to us what effect "eliminated" players can still have on this game.

If it's not top-secret or should be hidden from the mafia, then maybe Players 11 and 17 can explain what happened last night. That might help reduce the confusion and possibly catch a Red.

What if they are the red?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 16 2010 08:07 GMT
#480
On November 16 2010 16:44 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2010 16:38 kingjames01 wrote:
What I think we need is to have someone explain to us what effect "eliminated" players can still have on this game.

If it's not top-secret or should be hidden from the mafia, then maybe Players 11 and 17 can explain what happened last night. That might help reduce the confusion and possibly catch a Red.

What if they are the red?


Then they'll probably not tell us anything or lie. =)

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
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