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On November 17 2010 00:18 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 22:37 bumatlarge wrote:
You are all pussies. If you are townie, try to get the most territories. Screw everyone else you don't know who they are. If you win town wins. I support the Ace propaganda. Yeah that's what I was thinking as well. But then I read caller's post. He said that one nation cannot defend/attack twice if they have two territories. So does this mean that if I were to get 2 territories, I can only defend one of them? And if I attack would both go undefended? Because if so, then what's the point of bothering with 5 territories if you can lose 4 in one night?
No, I think if you choose to defend, all your countries defend.
If you choose to attack, you can attack any one country that borders your governed provinces. This is the same mechanic for sending aid.
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Hmm, so you can say "I attack x" and only the one touching will attack? Or perhaps say "I attack x with province y" in case both are touching it.
Cuz that would make it interesting. 
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lol @ annul. No one claim anything. When we start figuring stuff out and you've got high enough votes then we'll worry about claiming.
So if annul is nation 20 now scum knows he only has 1 measley vote, got attacked last and if any of them are one of the countries near him have a leg up on him.
Brilliant!
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by the way, if you want to join my alliance PM me.
I call it the anti-SIFZ coalition. kingjames seems to be so buddy buddy with those guys I hope I he's the one I pop tonight.
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On November 17 2010 00:26 CubEdIn wrote:Hmm, so you can say "I attack x" and only the one touching will attack? Or perhaps say "I attack x with province y" in case both are touching it. Cuz that would make it interesting.
No, if you say "I attack x" then your army from all of the governed provinces will attack it. Once you have more than one province, don't think of them as separate. You have just made your country bigger, so it possess all of the powers of one province, it just borders more (or different) provinces. All that having extra provinces does is give you more voting power, and help protect you from being eliminated.
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Jcarl you should be in my "people who read the rules" alliance.
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On November 17 2010 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 00:26 CubEdIn wrote:Hmm, so you can say "I attack x" and only the one touching will attack? Or perhaps say "I attack x with province y" in case both are touching it. Cuz that would make it interesting. No, if you say "I attack x" then your army from all of the governed provinces will attack it. Once you have more than one province, don't think of them as separate. You have just made your country bigger, so it possess all of the powers of one province, it just borders more (or different) provinces. All that having extra provinces does is give you more voting power, and help protect you from being eliminated.
So, if I were to capture another province, attack someone, and someone else attacks me, I would lose both provinces? Or just the one that was attacked?
Because if I can't think of them as separate, then I would lose both at once no?
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On November 17 2010 00:56 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 00:26 CubEdIn wrote:Hmm, so you can say "I attack x" and only the one touching will attack? Or perhaps say "I attack x with province y" in case both are touching it. Cuz that would make it interesting. No, if you say "I attack x" then your army from all of the governed provinces will attack it. Once you have more than one province, don't think of them as separate. You have just made your country bigger, so it possess all of the powers of one province, it just borders more (or different) provinces. All that having extra provinces does is give you more voting power, and help protect you from being eliminated. So, if I were to capture another province, attack someone, and someone else attacks me, I would lose both provinces? Or just the one that was attacked? Because if I can't think of them as separate, then I would lose both at once no?
if you defend, all of your provinces count as being defended.
if you attack, all of your provinces count as being undefended. this means that if you have provinces 1 and 2, and you attack 3, you can lose 1 or 2 if someone attacks. If both are attacked you will lose both. If you defend, and both are attacked, you will lose neither, unless the attacks are stacked or something.
so in your scenario you would lose just one.
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On November 17 2010 00:56 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 00:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 00:26 CubEdIn wrote:Hmm, so you can say "I attack x" and only the one touching will attack? Or perhaps say "I attack x with province y" in case both are touching it. Cuz that would make it interesting. No, if you say "I attack x" then your army from all of the governed provinces will attack it. Once you have more than one province, don't think of them as separate. You have just made your country bigger, so it possess all of the powers of one province, it just borders more (or different) provinces. All that having extra provinces does is give you more voting power, and help protect you from being eliminated. So, if I were to capture another province, attack someone, and someone else attacks me, I would lose both provinces? Or just the one that was attacked? Because if I can't think of them as separate, then I would lose both at once no?
Fair enough, lol.
Let's put it something like this:
For the purpose of your actions, your provinces are all joined into one country.
For the purpose of someone else's actions, they are separate. Meaning, they can be attacked or protected individually.
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Seraph, I'm calling you out. Speak up, what is on your mind. You advocated a strong peace treaty between townies for Night 1, which is all fine and good, but you have been extremely silent since.
You have had one post since the Day2 information, and it was saying that your plan failed because it was pointed out that none of the townies could trust each other. Also, you mainly accused Ace for your plan failing.
It is evident that no one can trust each other in a game of mafia, that is the nature of the beast. So, the fact that you would suggest it is either because you are extremely naive, or you were attempting to get the town to be passive so you could walk all over them as scum.
Come out of hiding and share your thoughts. What is your big, bad plan now?
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~Opz~ where are you dude!
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On November 17 2010 02:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Seraph, I'm calling you out. Speak up, what is on your mind. You advocated a strong peace treaty between townies for Night 1, which is all fine and good, but you have been extremely silent since.
You have had one post since the Day2 information, and it was saying that your plan failed because it was pointed out that none of the townies could trust each other. Also, you mainly accused Ace for your plan failing.
It is evident that no one can trust each other in a game of mafia, that is the nature of the beast. So, the fact that you would suggest it is either because you are extremely naive, or you were attempting to get the town to be passive so you could walk all over them as scum.
Come out of hiding and share your thoughts. What is your big, bad plan now?
Seraph advocated a big peace treaty, but then hinted that he attacked
On November 16 2010 08:03 seRapH wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 07:22 kingjames01 wrote:On November 16 2010 07:20 Ace wrote:
You should be looking forward to hitting that defend button tonight Who are you addressing? I fail to see how the plan for everyone to Defend during their Night 1 Action has helped us improve our odds against the mafia... It doesn't, because we (read: Ace) decided that we (read: Ace) can't trust every townie to go through with it. LOOK AT THIS FACE, WOULD I LIE TO YOU. ![[image loading]](http://media.animevice.com/uploads/0/1654/74256-nao_large.jpg) Seriously though, I'm not too disappointed because this way is a bit more exciting (though way more dangerous).
Intresting
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OK, let's look at the Caller's day post.
The Kingdom of Whoring appeared to have made the first move today, sacking the undefended Batmania while its army was elsewhere.
This means 13 attacked 11, while 11 was attacking someone else; which are 7, 9 or 10.. However, 7 was taken by 12, therefore 11 did not attack 7 so that leaves 10 or 9, which defended themselves so the attack failed.
Meanwhile in an interesting turn of events NoLanPlan's armies had just finished conquering the neutral province of 7 when they returned home and saw that their castle had been ransacked and the province of RedAvi's flag flew from the keep. It was only natural that their flag was there: the mysterious Rebirthing of Shimafiagumi had swept in and captured their home castle of province 6 as well.
12 attacked 17, while was being attacked by 6, whom in turned was attacked by 5. What we knows from these events are: 1) 12 and 6 are not in the same faction. 2) 5 and 6 are also not in the same faction. However, it is still possible that 5 and 12 are in the same factions.
Similarly, the forces of Sakura Gaibun had just settled the province of 25 before returning to see a massive warzone in their homeland. Despairing, they returned to 25 and watched while 27 fell into anarchy and all of the things that neutrality brings it.
This has already been discussed. 27 attacks 25, while 23 and 26 attacked 27. That means 23 and 26 are not in the same faction, or else one of them would have occupied the province.
Those denizens of Province 4, Hojo House, swept in and spied an empty castle-that of Rainbow Rumpus Partytown in province 8. This was of course because the lord of that province had just finished settling in province 9.
I'm very curious of the wording here. Does this mean 8 has an ability that could move their province to the other neutral one(s), or 8 just simply attacked 9? I think it's very likely that it is the latter case more than the first one.
The Land of Preemptive Retaliation was clearly one of the most preemptive forces in Liquidia. Unfortunately for them, it is hard to preempt something that comes on the first turn, and they fell to the misery of the Nation of Despair.
19 attacked and conquered 17. What is interesting is what did 17 do. 17 could attack 4 provinces: 13, 14, 16 and 19. However, because 17 was end up being taken by 19 so he could not attack 19 and because 13 was not taken, therefore he could not attack 13. 14 remains free so 17 did not attack it either. That means the most likely action of 17 is defend, but he still ends up being conquered. This means that 19 and 16 is very very likely are in the same faction and attacked 17 together. Also note that 18 is still free so that should support my theory, or else it should be taken by one of them.
Finally, the typical opportunists that ruled TheGloriousKnee ran into province 3, killing the men, raping the horses, and riding off on the women.
1 expand to 3. EZPZ.
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Oh forget to add for the last point. 1 attack 3 and took it. That means 2 defended or did nothing.
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On November 17 2010 03:01 Veldril wrote:
OK, let's look at the Caller's day post.
19 attacked and conquered 17. What is interesting is what did 17 do. 17 could attack 4 provinces: 13, 14, 16 and 19. However, because 17 was end up being taken by 19 so he could not attack 19 and because 13 was not taken, therefore he could not attack 13. 14 remains free so 17 did not attack it either. That means the most likely action of 17 is defend, but he still ends up being conquered. This means that 19 and 16 is very very likely are in the same faction and attacked 17 together. Also note that 18 is still free so that should support my theory, or else it should be taken by one of them.
Well, this isn't necessarily true. 17 could have attacked any of the 5 provinces around it, except for 19 (unless 19 has some sort of special class that would override it). If 17 and someone else attacked 13, then 13 would not be taken over (assuming no team affiliation). 17 and 20 could have both attacked 14, and no one would have gotten it, which 19 just waltzed right in.
Don't forget, if two factions that are not on the same team attack a province, their attacks will cancel out.
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On November 17 2010 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 03:01 Veldril wrote:
OK, let's look at the Caller's day post.
19 attacked and conquered 17. What is interesting is what did 17 do. 17 could attack 4 provinces: 13, 14, 16 and 19. However, because 17 was end up being taken by 19 so he could not attack 19 and because 13 was not taken, therefore he could not attack 13. 14 remains free so 17 did not attack it either. That means the most likely action of 17 is defend, but he still ends up being conquered. This means that 19 and 16 is very very likely are in the same faction and attacked 17 together. Also note that 18 is still free so that should support my theory, or else it should be taken by one of them.
Well, this isn't necessarily true. 17 could have attacked any of the 5 provinces around it, except for 19 (unless 19 has some sort of special class that would override it). If 17 and someone else attacked 13, then 13 would not be taken over (assuming no team affiliation). 17 and 20 could have both attacked 14, and no one would have gotten it, which 19 just waltzed right in. Don't forget, if two factions that are not on the same team attack a province, their attacks will cancel out.
This could not be true because if that is the case, 13 would be turn to neutral like 27. However, 13 remains intact so that means 17 could not attack 13.
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Oh I forgot to see that 17 is also adjacent to 20, so 17 could also attack 20 and 20 defend or counter-attack 17; therefore cancel the others attack out.
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On November 17 2010 03:33 Veldril wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 03:20 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 03:01 Veldril wrote:
OK, let's look at the Caller's day post.
19 attacked and conquered 17. What is interesting is what did 17 do. 17 could attack 4 provinces: 13, 14, 16 and 19. However, because 17 was end up being taken by 19 so he could not attack 19 and because 13 was not taken, therefore he could not attack 13. 14 remains free so 17 did not attack it either. That means the most likely action of 17 is defend, but he still ends up being conquered. This means that 19 and 16 is very very likely are in the same faction and attacked 17 together. Also note that 18 is still free so that should support my theory, or else it should be taken by one of them.
Well, this isn't necessarily true. 17 could have attacked any of the 5 provinces around it, except for 19 (unless 19 has some sort of special class that would override it). If 17 and someone else attacked 13, then 13 would not be taken over (assuming no team affiliation). 17 and 20 could have both attacked 14, and no one would have gotten it, which 19 just waltzed right in. Don't forget, if two factions that are not on the same team attack a province, their attacks will cancel out. This could not be true because if that is the case, 13 would be turn to neutral like 27. However, 13 remains intact so that means 17 could not attack 13.
Ah, right. So, unless 13 was sent aid or has a double role (i.e. Elite Soldier), 17 couldn't have attacked 13. If 13 was sent aid, then 13 is on a team with someone.
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Wait so if a country is taken over, are they revealed?
Can taken over countries still talk?
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