EPTGood thing my favorite moments have been TSM getting embarrassed with the top moment being MLG where they went 0-6 to Blaze after saying the Koreans are overhyped and not proven.
[KR] S3 Regional Finals - Page 30
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
Good thing my favorite moments have been TSM getting embarrassed with the top moment being MLG where they went 0-6 to Blaze after saying the Koreans are overhyped and not proven. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35169 Posts
On September 06 2013 10:11 Itsmedudeman wrote: NA have been on their high horse ever since All stars. Like why are people putting so much value onto an event like that? Historically NA have been far below their counterparts, and currently C9 are the only team doing well. Now I could also remind you that OMG has done the same thing C9 has done in their region with many, many better opponents. Good thing my favorite moments have been TSM getting embarrassed with the top moment being MLG where they went 0-6 to Blaze after saying the Koreans are overhyped and not proven. At the time, they were. The only international competition they had before then they lost horribly, iirc. | ||
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Baffels
United States1486 Posts
Really this is the best week of LoL ever. Also Flame renekton <3 | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Blaze should look for a Jungle and Mid sub, but keep Ambition and Helios. Let them fight for their jobs. If the fail like Rapidstar or get beaten out, then that should be that. The four bottom laners have all proven none of them are consistent enough to challenge the other duos in Korea. It's time to move on. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
Cpt Jack can make plays when he's on his game, but otherwise very lackluster. I wonder how many more good ADs are left up for grabs. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
But ambition&Helios looked underwhelming, and then their bot lane.... Lost the 2v2 hard, even in mid lane(how????). I'm not even sure a strong jungler would have saved them considering how badly they lost just laning. It's not like they were playing weak laners either. They had favorable matchups in at least a couple of the games and lost all the same. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 06 2013 10:50 IamPryda wrote: I don't see c9 breaking the top 4. 5th or 6th would be something I could see happening. But vs teams like ozone, omg, skt1, or frost they will stay close about the first 10 mins then u will see the gap in skill come out eh. honestly I think C9 may even do worse than some of the other NA teams tbh. C9's weakness has always been the early game/laning phase. It's just that they're incredibly solid mid game and due to how NA teams can't hold onto a lead they always surge ahead. Against a good team, they won't get that chance. But who knows. Maybe the NA teams will bootcamp hard before worlds and win everything. lol | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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JL13
United States1384 Posts
That being said, Blaze looked really really lost in last night's games =(. I agree with the points about restructuring the bot lane. Adding competition between Ambition and a sub would be good and might have the same effect EG went through with Snoopeh / Shacker. I like Helios and Flame. They should keep their spots. Looking forward to KTB / Frost. As much of a fan I am of Shy and Madlife, this is KTB's series to lose. I expect KTB to replicate a similar run compared to their Champions run against both CJ Entus teams. The "Trinity Affinity" meta should help Shy out cause he plays a lot of Jax which might throw a wrench into KTB's plans. But I honestly see KTB just going with the ban the two hook supports/X (first pick sona) strategy and outlane their Frost counterparts. The 4th-seed placement shouldn't be looked into so much because Insec did not play (Ssumday did instead and I think Insec's synergy with Kakao is just better). Heart = Frost, Mind = Bullets. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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glzElectromaster
Japan2474 Posts
On September 06 2013 13:08 JL13 wrote: Does C9 discussion belong in Korea's Regional Finals? o_O That being said, Blaze looked really really lost in last night's games =(. I agree with the points about restructuring the bot lane. Adding competition between Ambition and a sub would be good and might have the same effect EG went through with Snoopeh / Shacker. I like Helios and Flame. They should keep their spots. Looking forward to KTB / Frost. As much of a fan I am of Shy and Madlife, this is KTB's series to lose. I expect KTB to replicate a similar run compared to their Champions run against both CJ Entus teams. The "Trinity Affinity" meta should help Shy out cause he plays a lot of Jax which might throw a wrench into KTB's plans. But I honestly see KTB just going with the ban the two hook supports/X (first pick sona) strategy and outlane their Frost counterparts. The 4th-seed placement shouldn't be looked into so much because Insec did not play (Ssumday did instead and I think Insec's synergy with Kakao is just better). Heart = Frost, Mind = Bullets. With Frost its either going to be a steamroll by Bullets or a Game 5, because once they get on a bad roll they don't seem to have the stamina to come back these days. However they are still a formidable force in blind pick, only reason they lost one to Ozone was because of a untypical Baron throw. Otherwise they were looking like they were going to take the game. But with InSec in top we may see a much more intense game. This is finally the rematch from the group stages when they split 1-1, with GBM and inSec both playing. | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On September 06 2013 12:35 Ryuu314 wrote: eh. honestly I think C9 may even do worse than some of the other NA teams tbh. C9's weakness has always been the early game/laning phase. It's just that they're incredibly solid mid game and due to how NA teams can't hold onto a lead they always surge ahead. Against a good team, they won't get that chance. But who knows. Maybe the NA teams will bootcamp hard before worlds and win everything. lol I don't think with how fierce the international LoL competition is, that "bootcamping" before big international events gives you much of an advantage. If you want to compete, you probably need to be bootcamping 24/7 all year long anyway, like the Koreans/Chinese do. Als,o for Cloud 9 to do worse than the other NA teams, the other NA teams would have to get out of groups in the first place. Which isn't something I'd put my money on.  | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On September 06 2013 13:08 JL13 wrote: Does C9 discussion belong in Korea's Regional Finals? o_O JBright hasn't made the S3 Worlds thread yet what a slacker On September 06 2013 13:08 JL13 wrote: Looking forward to KTB / Frost. As much of a fan I am of Shy and Madlife, this is KTB's series to lose. I expect KTB to replicate a similar run compared to their Champions run against both CJ Entus teams. The "Trinity Affinity" meta should help Shy out cause he plays a lot of Jax which might throw a wrench into KTB's plans. But I honestly see KTB just going with the ban the two hook supports/X (first pick sona) strategy and outlane their Frost counterparts. The 4th-seed placement shouldn't be looked into so much because Insec did not play (Ssumday did instead and I think Insec's synergy with Kakao is just better). Heart = Frost, Mind = Bullets. I think its going to be a 3-1 Frost or 3-0 Bullets. Either Frost have figured out how to not automatically lose against any 'Z' champion, or they haven't. If Shy can get a good game going that turns into overall Frost win, then Insec can easily go on tilt and allow Shy to get out of control for the rest of the series. On the other hand, Frost might just autolose. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On September 06 2013 13:08 JL13 wrote: Does C9 discussion belong in Korea's Regional Finals? o_O That being said, Blaze looked really really lost in last night's games =(. I agree with the points about restructuring the bot lane. Adding competition between Ambition and a sub would be good and might have the same effect EG went through with Snoopeh / Shacker. I like Helios and Flame. They should keep their spots. Looking forward to KTB / Frost. As much of a fan I am of Shy and Madlife, this is KTB's series to lose. I expect KTB to replicate a similar run compared to their Champions run against both CJ Entus teams. The "Trinity Affinity" meta should help Shy out cause he plays a lot of Jax which might throw a wrench into KTB's plans. But I honestly see KTB just going with the ban the two hook supports/X (first pick sona) strategy and outlane their Frost counterparts. The 4th-seed placement shouldn't be looked into so much because Insec did not play (Ssumday did instead and I think Insec's synergy with Kakao is just better). Heart = Frost, Mind = Bullets. Well sumday made some big plays in game 1 playing jax with the two red steals and really paced his team to victory. It will be interesting to see if ktb keeps just trying to ban out mad life or try something new. Also it would be nice to see shy play something other then Shen tonight | ||
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bunberry
Australia96 Posts
However at least the brackets aren't as bad as the all-stars event where it was some kind of strange double elimination for the first round only with a random seed thrown in for SEA because TPA won S2 and where KOR had to play NA then CHN in the finals right after... now that was an abomination of a bracket if I'd ever seen one. | ||
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IamPryda
United States1186 Posts
On September 06 2013 15:43 xes wrote: JBright hasn't made the S3 Worlds thread yet what a slacker I think its going to be a 3-1 Frost or 3-0 Bullets. Either Frost have figured out how to not automatically lose against any 'Z' champion, or they haven't. If Shy can get a good game going that turns into overall Frost win, then Insec can easily go on tilt and allow Shy to get out of control for the rest of the series. On the other hand, Frost might just autolose. I would expect zac and lee sin to be banned out by frost and frost can steal away zed or ban him ass well | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
On September 06 2013 15:59 bunberry wrote: I wish Riot would change their bracket system for the world championships because due to their seeding system C9 will face a maximum of 3 teams... like wtf is that. And it's possible for them to lose in the first round of the play-offs like TSM during the S2WC which would mean only being able to face 1 team. I want to see how well C9 will do against the top teams from every region but with these terrible brackets it's going to be very unlikely. However at least the brackets aren't as bad as the all-stars event where it was some kind of strange double elimination for the first round only with a random seed thrown in for SEA because TPA won S2 and where KOR had to play NA then CHN in the finals right after... now that was an abomination of a bracket if I'd ever seen one. I actually liked the All Stars bracket. We got to see most regions face each other and in the end there was no doubt about the different "tiers" of All Star teams. Of course it's problematic to build such a bracket around an uneven numbers of teams (here 5), so I think their solution was pretty decent in the end. | ||
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bunberry
Australia96 Posts
On September 06 2013 16:22 UmberBane wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 06 2013 15:59 bunberry wrote: I wish Riot would change their bracket system for the world championships because due to their seeding system C9 will face a maximum of 3 teams... like wtf is that. And it's possible for them to lose in the first round of the play-offs like TSM during the S2WC which would mean only being able to face 1 team. I want to see how well C9 will do against the top teams from every region but with these terrible brackets it's going to be very unlikely. However at least the brackets aren't as bad as the all-stars event where it was some kind of strange double elimination for the first round only with a random seed thrown in for SEA because TPA won S2 and where KOR had to play NA then CHN in the finals right after... now that was an abomination of a bracket if I'd ever seen one. I actually liked the All Stars bracket. We got to see most regions face each other and in the end there was no doubt about the different "tiers" of All Star teams. Of course it's problematic to build such a bracket around an uneven numbers of teams (here 5), so I think their solution was pretty decent in the end. Hmm, yeah looking at it from that perspective, most regions were able to face each other and that's what fans want to see the most but SEA still got the short end of the stick where they were only able to play against CHN. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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