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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
September 26 2013 15:20 GMT
#401
I find if you don't build Sunfire as 1st/2nd item on WW, you simply won't get any farm after that because it takes eons for you to clear waves. With Sunfire you can get farm and be present for teamfights, I don't think any item can compete.
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5049 Posts
September 26 2013 16:08 GMT
#402
I like to go hybrid ap with warwick, and play him somewhat as an assassin, since you can blow up carries very easily like this. His lane presence with a hextech revolver and one or two doran's rings is incredible because you can chunk people early game so easily while your sustain is just ridiculous.
I usually go: Doran's ring 2x pot -> hextech -> lich bane, nashor's, gunblade, guinsoo's rageblade (item priorization depending on what enemy you face) and a defensive item (or some more ap haha) The attack speed skill has great synergy with rageblade and nashor's and the gunblade is just to chase people down.
I know it's not a tanky build, but it gets the job done most of the time. He also has incredible pushing power with his w so he becomes a viable splitpusher aswell, and not too many who can 1v1 a ww when he's on your back.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 26 2013 20:03 GMT
#403
You guys are making me miss wolfie, my first love. Time to come back.
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Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
October 01 2013 05:46 GMT
#404
On September 27 2013 01:08 Uldridge wrote:
I like to go hybrid ap with warwick, and play him somewhat as an assassin, since you can blow up carries very easily like this. His lane presence with a hextech revolver and one or two doran's rings is incredible because you can chunk people early game so easily while your sustain is just ridiculous.
I usually go: Doran's ring 2x pot -> hextech -> lich bane, nashor's, gunblade, guinsoo's rageblade (item priorization depending on what enemy you face) and a defensive item (or some more ap haha) The attack speed skill has great synergy with rageblade and nashor's and the gunblade is just to chase people down.
I know it's not a tanky build, but it gets the job done most of the time. He also has incredible pushing power with his w so he becomes a viable splitpusher aswell, and not too many who can 1v1 a ww when he's on your back.


Magewick gets a ton of benefit from DFG. DFG-Q-LBAuto-Ult-Q-LBAuto is pretty hilarious damage.

I wouldn't bother with Nashors or Rageblade. Magewick is too squishy for autos to be heavily relied on outside of Q-LB procs. Visage is still core on him. You need more than 30% cdr to get a second Q-Auto off during your DFG combo though.
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Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
October 01 2013 11:42 GMT
#405
On September 27 2013 05:03 mordek wrote:
You guys are making me miss wolfie, my first love. Time to come back.

aww, mine too, the first champ i mained, the champ i learned to jungle with, carry with and generally play with

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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 05:42:37
November 09 2013 06:09 GMT
#406
On September 27 2013 01:08 Uldridge wrote:
I like to go hybrid ap with warwick, and play him somewhat as an assassin, since you can blow up carries very easily like this. His lane presence with a hextech revolver and one or two doran's rings is incredible because you can chunk people early game so easily while your sustain is just ridiculous.
I usually go: Doran's ring 2x pot -> hextech -> lich bane, nashor's, gunblade, guinsoo's rageblade (item priorization depending on what enemy you face) and a defensive item (or some more ap haha) The attack speed skill has great synergy with rageblade and nashor's and the gunblade is just to chase people down.
I know it's not a tanky build, but it gets the job done most of the time. He also has incredible pushing power with his w so he becomes a viable splitpusher aswell, and not too many who can 1v1 a ww when he's on your back.

I think I'm going to try this. I don't agree with getting revolver so early. I'd get some mana first or mana regen and then build towards Nashors before getting any AP. I don't think Warwick gets enough from AP until he gets a nashors and his ult.

Gunblade is a very sexy item considering the spell vamp and lifesteal.
Rageblade might be pretty good too if you use your ult after taking enough damage to proc the rageblade passive. Hey you even get to build up to 5 stacks on rageblade on your ult too right?
And DFG would definitely be good.
Nashors has to be the core of the build though.

I'm not sure if AP jungle WW would be as good as lane WW since burst champions rely on items and levels to be able to burst people down, but if you get the spectral wraith item and rageblade (maybe even some spell vamp from runes) even your smites will heal for a ton.

edit: tried some WW today. Failed once as AP WW. I have like a 2.0 Ratio of damage with ult and nashors D:
But game was over due to bad decisions before I got them.
Gunblade's spell vamp and lifesteal both proc on your ult. Along with Fiora's those are the only two spells that do that. And while a 2.0 ratio may not seem like much, all it has to do is allow you to gib a squishy with Q, ult, and Q assuming you have enough CDR.
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trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
December 30 2013 16:41 GMT
#407
so guys warwick is a pretty good jungler now (<-- diamond 1).

First things first i picked up warwick in early season 3 because he has the kind of style i liked, my main was fiddlestick and so a jungler who had incredible sustain and was farming till 6 was my style. I had not very good sucess with him at first, trying a lot of builds, and the thing that was frustrating was that if i was getting the kills while ganking it would really not be good for every one, i could not often translate those kills into advantage mid to late game and would fall off really in the late game.

Now in pre season 4, they are some buffs to him. The jungle item and the gold flow permit him to have items and ti feels great. a farm warwick is scary in this tanky meta, he is like a pseudo mundo. Get the kills and carry alone

So before in early s3 i tried him offensive/defensive and utility and it was better to go utility (0/9/21), u would get a huge boost of ure movement speed (+3% remember) and a lot of goodies along the way, this way with a start with boot u could gank pre6 with 450 ms.
Now in pre season 4 i tried also defensive/offensive/utility and there is not enough goodies/ms/bonusxp in the utility tree to go this way, u should really go 21/0/9 or 21/9/0. so its health/armor vs minor ms/reduce summoner cd/buff duration increase.
its really a toss up, i prefer the tankyness generally so i go 21/9/0

Then in starting items u should go machete + pink+ green ward+ yellow trinket. You are not going to gank before 6 like 90% of the time, your goal should be to ward at 1.10 your top lane, run south ward the the brush alone in the river with the pink and run to your blue or your red and then just farm and watch ure minimap and ping the crap out of your team.
You cant gank pre 6 but you can prevent gank with vision control
At 6 normally with vision control nobody is killed because of the jungler and u start to really shine.
Warwick has one of the better ultimate of the game, long suppression who instantly flash into your opponent and extremely low cd. take your blue at 7:10 and gank. Then take your red and gank again, then farm wraith then gank. It should be your style. Gank successfully top ? farm golem then gank him 40 sec after when he comes back to lane.

BO : ancient golem -> mobi boots (crucial) --> sunfire --> Spirit visage --> 1 damage item (wits end normally) if u have a tank/ Frozen heart/randuin/banshee if you are the only tank --> guardian angel.

wants a new jungler to add in your repertoire ? Give him a go
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
December 31 2013 12:47 GMT
#408
So you prefer the offensive tree not the def one ? What about runes ?
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
December 31 2013 14:17 GMT
#409
On December 31 2013 21:47 RouaF wrote:
So you prefer the offensive tree not the def one ? What about runes ?


Yeah offensive tree, there is not much after 9 point in the defensive tree that i want to take.
You don't need extra armor and magic resist to jungle (u will always be full hp)
perseverance is meh too, your sustain is already incredible
Legendary guardian and tenacious are good and would be why you choose the defensive tree.

In the offensive tree everything is good and will definitely help the clears of your jungle

Runes are standard for a lot of junglers.

Attack speed red, very good with your passive, more attacks more regen
Armor yellow, normal too but you could experiment with other things, maybe he doesnt need it for jungling. But i'm a bit scared if i go to gank someone with 0 armor.
Magic resist per lvl blue, you will have more armor items than mr so it's normal. But u could take cdr
Movement speed Quint. Essential if u are not in the utility tree
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
December 31 2013 16:37 GMT
#410
I'll give it a try I really like ww. The warding tip seems to be the key to pull it off. I guess you also need charisma to convince your allies that it is not lost if they get gankd pre-6 :-) im sure a lot of people will rage at you for picking "useless ww can't gank"
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
December 31 2013 17:29 GMT
#411
yeah the warding thing is key. Before i used to start machete + 2 green but a pink is so good in the right bush, In diamond 1 it easily stay up 15 minutes
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
December 31 2013 19:49 GMT
#412
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 01 2014 18:19 GMT
#413
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 01 2014 18:56 GMT
#414
You should take it imo. It's really good on melees and most of the time you're in the jungle and at full life so...
Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
January 01 2014 20:59 GMT
#415
Where are you pinking exactly, trollbone?
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-01 21:41:03
January 01 2014 21:40 GMT
#416
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 01 2014 21:50 GMT
#417
On January 02 2014 05:59 Misder wrote:
Where are you pinking exactly, trollbone?

The small brush closest to baron.
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 09:41:53
January 02 2014 09:40 GMT
#418
On January 02 2014 03:19 krndandaman wrote:
hm so i tried jungle ww and it was pretty good.
the only issues i had with it were mana issues and lack of ganking potential pre 6.
luckily, my mid was Katarina so I had every blue, but I could definitely see issues without it. I also felt kinda helpless early on since my lanes had minimal cc and ww isn't exactly the best ganker. If things go wrong early it'll be tough for ww to do anything about it.

however post 6 ww is extremely strong and ult cd is ridiculously low. late game my tankwick was unstoppable just sustaining through teamfights all day.
question about masteries: did you go double-edged sword? I didn't take it because I was going a tank build but with 21/9 offensive I feel like it'd be natural to take it. opinions?


Every back you should buy one mana pot don't forget, but you are going to sometimes do a bit of mana management, just don't use Q for a bit when u are jungling, your attak speed buff should be enough.

Don't go ganking pre 6 90% of the time (at least with offensive tree warwick), you are going to loose xp and be behind in the jungle.
But what you can do is with the vision your early wards give you, you could countergank. Like top is winning hard but is pushing at his tower, You see the jungler come top after his 2 buff, and so you countergank/bait him.

Yes i take it, i feel you need the right amount of damage to be a treat because your not going to build offensive items for a long time. And it speed up your jungling without repercussion, always full hp

trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-02 09:45:20
January 02 2014 09:44 GMT
#419
On January 02 2014 06:50 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2014 05:59 Misder wrote:
Where are you pinking exactly, trollbone?

The small brush closest to baron.


Yes. Number 1 spot to drop a pink ward. If you are jungling with any jungler you should drop a pink here or the same spot but on the dragon side. The adavantage of baron side is that nobody checks it, at dragon if you fight for this objective you are going to find it very early
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 02 2014 18:13 GMT
#420
thank you based trollbone

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