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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 12 2014 20:50 GMT
#441
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-13 02:55:32
January 13 2014 02:55 GMT
#442
to be in the top half (top ~55 for those of you scoring at home) of the cast at supporting you must be able to make space for your adc with a sightstone or less.
Carrilord has arrived.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 13 2014 08:04 GMT
#443
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Sarah Bryant
Profile Joined January 2014
United Kingdom160 Posts
January 13 2014 09:24 GMT
#444
As i said, s4 opens up alot more options for support because of the gold flow. I'd go and say that i feel warwick support is amazing pick to carry silver-plat games. He is imo at least lux-nida level support and this means while he is legit he's better of NOT used in top level game, but you can dominate almost everyone with it.

Sure it puts your adc in pretty bad spot to start, but with careful play it's very easy to make it out even and dominate from then

Pumpkins!
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 13 2014 15:14 GMT
#445
On January 13 2014 18:24 Sarah Bryant wrote:
As i said, s4 opens up alot more options for support because of the gold flow. I'd go and say that i feel warwick support is amazing pick to carry silver-plat games. He is imo at least lux-nida level support and this means while he is legit he's better of NOT used in top level game, but you can dominate almost everyone with it.

Sure it puts your adc in pretty bad spot to start, but with careful play it's very easy to make it out even and dominate from then



if his q was spammable he would be ok as counter engage in bot lane like nunu with like a caitlyn, but if they got a poke bot lane like sona ez you are just going to get wrecked and you wont be able to have that gold flow to do plays in the mid game
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 13 2014 21:10 GMT
#446
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 14 2014 04:18 GMT
#447
On January 13 2014 18:24 Sarah Bryant wrote:
As i said, s4 opens up alot more options for support because of the gold flow. I'd go and say that i feel warwick support is amazing pick to carry silver-plat games. He is imo at least lux-nida level support and this means while he is legit he's better of NOT used in top level game, but you can dominate almost everyone with it.

Sure it puts your adc in pretty bad spot to start, but with careful play it's very easy to make it out even and dominate from then


Out of curiosity what rating are you because I'm plat 3 playing a "don't decay" game every month and this shit wouldn't work anywhere in even gold
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
January 14 2014 06:47 GMT
#448
I tried that tank WW build, it was tasty. Went something like SotAG -> SV -> Sunfire -> Bork. Flash ult so good, oh my. I couldn't hurt tanks (before Bork), but I tore through squishies quite fast and tanked for days.
I got nothin'...
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 14 2014 07:03 GMT
#449
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 14 2014 11:34 GMT
#450
On January 07 2014 20:55 Sarah Bryant wrote:
Hello!, i'm new here.

I feel that because of the gold increase in s4 SUPPORT ww is now legit. He has some weakness that bascilly means he can't be a top tier support and not worth play versus the top players, but like in 99.9% of the game he can be used to great effect!. You play him basiclly as top/jungle ww but from the suppport position, and he has great tools to aid your team from here!.

Cons:
Bad BAD lane, they will try to harras, they will try to zone, just need to wether the storm with careful positioning and good warding, it's very possible unless the enemy can perfect play against you, which isnt easy.

Warding: he cant get as "classic" support becuase he needs to rush items.

Peel: can only use ultimate+botrk active, granted combined with the as buff for the adc its not bad, but it's the only peel


Pros:

Ultimate: Has so many uses that benefit your team!. Initiate[either primary or secondary], catch tower divers or players who misstep thier position[either into tower range or in the open], in ganks, in 2v2, for peels...it has great uses for support, does pretty good damage with items and has short cooldown.

Ganks: Once you are level 6 it's hunting season, fast ganks mid for ulti+ignite+free mid skillshots or ganks at your own lane with jungle help. Big damage and hard to escpe from, can gank better than most[all?] other supports because of the e speed.

Vision: If the enemey is less than 50% hp they are in a problem, they cant hide, they cant run if you want to chase, they cant surprise your from brushes...it's a great benefit.

Team AS buff: 40% is almost what nunu gives ..but for the entire team, good in the bruzer meta. Helps getting buffs and towers very fast.

Hard to kill, damage, unignorable: the traits of lane/jungle ww,. With s4 gold changes you get the same items you could on other lanes, so its the same effect.

I suggest you try it for yourself and have fun with it, won't really help you get into the lcs, but it's not a joke and i feel it's legit.

If you have any questions i'm on #r/leagueoflegends on quakenet. Happy hunting.



Support WW is only legit for you, because you're playing against extreme retards and you could be picking ad carry heimerdinger and still win i bet. Outside of his AS buff and ultimate he does NOTHING to help your team. Compare him to someone like Annie, Thresh, Sona, Leona, Blitzcrank, hell i could keep on going, and you will see that he is very lackluster in terms of quality attributes for a support. I suggest that if you feel Warwick being a strong pick right now, play him in the jungle or play him in advantageous top lane match-ups. He will sadly never work as a legit support given how popular AP-oriented supports are right now, and since you're insanely weak pre-6 you will get bullied out of lane against any competent bot-lane. Sorry bro.
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 11:40:13
January 14 2014 11:39 GMT
#451
On January 14 2014 16:03 krndandaman wrote:
Playing jungle ww can be really really sad sometimes though.
The lack of any jungle pressure pre 6 and having pretty weak clears is annoying the say the least.
If anything happens pre 6 you pretty much can't do anything to stop it and I've had ignorant people just ragequit when they see me farm to 6. For the first 7-8 minutes or so you are helpless. However if you make it to 6 without your team feeding you're good to go.



And that is why you warn your team that you will be farming and that they should play carefully early levels. Since this is clearly not enough you should ward for your team between your camp cleaning. The pink trick works well, just add to that buying a ward every back (first back should be spirit stone, boots, 1 ward, 1 mana pot) and you're good.

Real problems come when people start losing their lane hard 1v1, you can't do anything to put them back on track before 6, but hey what can you do if they get demolished 1v1 anyway ? If the opposite jungler is smart he can also force a lot of ganks bot and since supports don't buy wards any more early game (or max 1) it can be a problem.

It's pretty clear the pick isn't 100% optimal otherwise we would see it at lcs/ogn level but hey if it's good enough to carry in diamond 1 I'm sure it can work for all of you !
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 23:56:58
January 14 2014 23:50 GMT
#452
with the second game with warwick played by Gambit and sucessfully i think he will be picked commonly this season at least by gambit.

Love Darien !

edit : post game interview with alex ich : he said that warwick is really strong in this meta, and that he played him and won solo queue a lot with him so he asked darien to pick up this champion.

We will definitely see a lot of ww this season
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
January 15 2014 04:19 GMT
#453
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
January 15 2014 15:17 GMT
#454
Anyone know Darrien's mastery and runes?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-16 04:59:19
January 16 2014 04:57 GMT
#455
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.

Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
January 16 2014 07:28 GMT
#456
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


Ancient Golem->Ninja Tabi->Wit's End-> SV/Frozen Heart->BotRK
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 16 2014 12:42 GMT
#457
On January 16 2014 13:57 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.



Enjoy getting blown up if you start madred/mobi/wits end lol. You really need some more tankyness, I don't really see the point of not getting ancient golem.
Bam Lee
Profile Joined June 2012
2336 Posts
January 17 2014 01:56 GMT
#458
warwick is really good if your opponent doesnt intend to roam a lot and if you can make it a 1v1, maybe 2v1 with jungler ganks after 6. Warwicks pushing power is just....terrible. And with the new changes taking towers will be even harder i think
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 17 2014 03:27 GMT
#459
WW is pretty good at actually TAKING the tower once he gets his paws on it - giving yourself+jungler a pretty sizable AS boost is pretty good at that. It's no Rango but it'll do. The issue is getting the lane to that point in the first place - he's hurt less by the tower armor buffs than most because it means his own tower will get chipped away more slowly and he won't just lose it.
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 17 2014 04:19 GMT
#460
If it means anything, Durr believes that WW support can be played until a high plat level, according to him. So I wouldn't disregard Sarah's point completely on the basis that she's too big of a noob. And not just like a useless support that a high diamond/challenger player could make useful enough to carry lower level games, an actual presence in most phases of the game.
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