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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 17 2014 07:23 GMT
#461
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
January 17 2014 11:27 GMT
#462
On January 17 2014 13:19 Zdrastochye wrote:
If it means anything, Durr believes that WW support can be played until a high plat level, according to him. So I wouldn't disregard Sarah's point completely on the basis that she's too big of a noob. And not just like a useless support that a high diamond/challenger player could make useful enough to carry lower level games, an actual presence in most phases of the game.



The positive side of unconventional picks is that you will often surprise your opponent by going with that given pick from the start. But that's really all there is to it.
hi
trollbone
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
France1905 Posts
January 17 2014 14:53 GMT
#463
i'm going to try to reach diamond 1 with only ww (or mostly) this season
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 17:07:49
January 17 2014 17:06 GMT
#464
On January 16 2014 21:42 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 13:57 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.



Enjoy getting blown up if you start madred/mobi/wits end lol. You really need some more tankyness, I don't really see the point of not getting ancient golem.

You mean like that?

http://postimg.org/image/gag84j6d9/20c113ac/

wolf carried me from silver 5 to plat 2, I think I know what I'm building.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-17 18:00:14
January 17 2014 17:44 GMT
#465
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 09:18:50
January 17 2014 19:03 GMT
#466
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RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
January 18 2014 11:49 GMT
#467
On January 18 2014 02:06 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2014 21:42 RouaF wrote:
On January 16 2014 13:57 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.



Enjoy getting blown up if you start madred/mobi/wits end lol. You really need some more tankyness, I don't really see the point of not getting ancient golem.

You mean like that?

http://postimg.org/image/gag84j6d9/20c113ac/

wolf carried me from silver 5 to plat 2, I think I know what I'm building.

I could be plat 2 playing teemo top going iedge phantom dancer every game, does it means it's good ? No. Madred mobi wit's end is a lot of gold before any tank stats, you will have great 1v2 ult ganks but in 2v2's or teamfights there is just no way you won't get blown up.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 13:14:01
January 18 2014 13:13 GMT
#468
FWIW I think Mallet's better on WW than IBG by a lot. That thornmail should be Frozen Heart (or Randuins) every time though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 18 2014 15:42 GMT
#469
On January 18 2014 04:03 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 02:06 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 16 2014 21:42 RouaF wrote:
On January 16 2014 13:57 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.



Enjoy getting blown up if you start madred/mobi/wits end lol. You really need some more tankyness, I don't really see the point of not getting ancient golem.

You mean like that?

http://postimg.org/image/gag84j6d9/20c113ac/

wolf carried me from silver 5 to plat 2, I think I know what I'm building.


just because you're good at a champion doesn't make your build the optimal build.
I actually think madred/mobi/wits end isn't bad if you're ahead but if you aren't, going tanky is the safer route imo. Also not a fan of frozen mallet. The build path is bad and doesn't give the greatest stats on warwick. If you need slows I would rather go for IBG.


Yeah I totally disagree with you. FM over IBG hard. So just because what he's building works for him, it's not the optimal build because you are the optimal build master? Please.
Hey! How you doin'?
MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 17:08:33
January 18 2014 17:03 GMT
#470
On January 18 2014 22:13 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
FWIW I think Mallet's better on WW than IBG by a lot. That thornmail should be Frozen Heart (or Randuins) every time though.

Like I said it depends.

Thornmail on WW vs opponents with heavy lifesteal or vs opponents that have pretty high damage but not arpen yet is pretty strong. Vs autoattackers with not much lifesteal randuin or frozen heart is the way to go.

Also madreds gives +20 armor + lifesteal on each hit on neutrals giving you incredible sustain during jungle and good armor during ganks.

As WW has built in lifesteal /hit + lifesteal on Q armor gives more value and effective hp than hp5/ hp up to a point.Thats why you get madreds instead of golem.

You can do a value/cost analysis of Effective HP and add the average lifesteal you get in a battle as hp to see that for yourself.



Also FM guarantess that once you autoattack an opponent there is almost no chance for him to escape. + gives dmg for the ulty & AA + alot of hp.

MyNameIsAlex
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece827 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-18 17:17:01
January 18 2014 17:13 GMT
#471
[/QUOTE]
On January 18 2014 20:49 RouaF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 02:06 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 16 2014 21:42 RouaF wrote:
On January 16 2014 13:57 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.



Enjoy getting blown up if you start madred/mobi/wits end lol. You really need some more tankyness, I don't really see the point of not getting ancient golem.

You mean like that?

http://postimg.org/image/gag84j6d9/20c113ac/

wolf carried me from silver 5 to plat 2, I think I know what I'm building.

I could be plat 2 playing teemo top going iedge phantom dancer every game, does it means it's good ? No. Madred mobi wit's end is a lot of gold before any tank stats, you will have great 1v2 ult ganks but in 2v2's or teamfights there is just no way you won't get blown up.


Are you plat2 going teemo with PD + IE?

If something works CONSISTENLY there must be a reason why it works.

Im trying to offer some insight on this thread, yet people attack saying why it should not work.

Well the thing is it works.

Only downside to the wolf is his early game. If your teammates are very weak and feed more than 0-5 at the first 6 minutes it might be GG. Else he can carry by himself.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 18 2014 18:18 GMT
#472
I agree 100% with Alex. Junglers sholdn't worry too much about stat efficiency "being ahead"/"being behind" doesn't have the same build impacts on junglers as on laners. A top lane bruiser is gonna shift tank items to the early game when he is behind or under heavy pressure but a jungler doesn't need to trade all the time and if he is playing well then he is outnumbering people anyways. Having ++ damage, mobility and being a bigger dragon/buffsteal threat can help you much more than being tanky but slow and not dealing damage.

also WW has a very high synergy with this build: his passive and W both scale extremely well with mandred + wits. just having flat reduction stats is very strong on a high regen tank and mobilityboots scale extremly well with E.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 18 2014 20:43 GMT
#473
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-19 01:36:37
January 19 2014 01:36 GMT
#474
On January 19 2014 02:13 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2014 20:49 RouaF wrote:
On January 18 2014 02:06 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 16 2014 21:42 RouaF wrote:
On January 16 2014 13:57 MyNameIsAlex wrote:
On January 15 2014 13:19 Terranasaur wrote:
what are you guys building on WW out of the jungle these days?


90% of the games
madreds, boots of mobility, wits end, frozen mallete, thornmail / frozen heart/ randuins, visage -> sell madreds get botrk.

in that order.



Enjoy getting blown up if you start madred/mobi/wits end lol. You really need some more tankyness, I don't really see the point of not getting ancient golem.

You mean like that?

http://postimg.org/image/gag84j6d9/20c113ac/

wolf carried me from silver 5 to plat 2, I think I know what I'm building.

I could be plat 2 playing teemo top going iedge phantom dancer every game, does it means it's good ? No. Madred mobi wit's end is a lot of gold before any tank stats, you will have great 1v2 ult ganks but in 2v2's or teamfights there is just no way you won't get blown up.


Are you plat2 going teemo with PD + IE?

If something works CONSISTENLY there must be a reason why it works.

Im trying to offer some insight on this thread, yet people attack saying why it should not work.

Well the thing is it works.

Only downside to the wolf is his early game. If your teammates are very weak and feed more than 0-5 at the first 6 minutes it might be GG. Else he can carry by himself.

I mean I don't think your argument is flawed really but RouaF isn't plat 2, he's diamond 1...
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 19 2014 06:26 GMT
#475
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 20 2014 00:50 GMT
#476
Yes, but when something works at a lower level like plat 2 it clearly works for a reason, even if it's not optimal. Building 100% optimal in a higher level game is correct, but sometimes at lower levels you have to do things which take advantage of people not building or playing correctly. It's basic adaptation, and it's my opinion that when you play against bad players you should take advantage of these weaknesses.

I'm not saying his build is 100% optimal, but if it works at his level it's probably not horrendous.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-20 01:14:10
January 20 2014 01:13 GMT
#477
Yeah he isn't going full AP or some retard shit like that. At least his build makes some sense rather than none.
hi
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
January 20 2014 02:10 GMT
#478
I liked the build but wasnt a huge fan of madreds personally.
Worked well for me.

I'd still rather have Golem/Tabi/Wits personally.
Warwick doesnt need sustain with his passive/Q
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 20 2014 03:38 GMT
#479
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miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
January 21 2014 03:19 GMT
#480
Played Olaf vs ap WW, was horrible. I could do damage and force him to tower, even do a bit of dirty farming, but it just ended up with him facetanking the wave and it not mattering. Once he bought chalice I couldn't do ANY damage to him, even when I had botrk and Q spam, it was a bit ridiculous.
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