EPT(Without Soraka you just need to not use W for pure harrass and merely to crush every trading situation)
[Champion] Ezreal - Page 20
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
(Without Soraka you just need to not use W for pure harrass and merely to crush every trading situation) | ||
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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Shiv.
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On August 22 2012 17:18 Argoth. wrote: How comes, ezreal is so super popular these days? Not that long ago he had fallen from grace. I don't mind becuse I really like playing him, he's such a fun champ. Maxing W wins trades, and people figured that out. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 22 2012 17:39 Shiv. wrote: Maxing W wins trades, and people figured that out. This. And that his E is absolutely broken in a teamfight. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On June 27 2012 05:05 Shikyo wrote: IMO maxing W is way better than maxing Q. I'd only max Q first if you're with someone like taric and are going to do a lot of blink -> melee bursting where they won't be able to dodge the Qs. If the lane is trade-y maxing W is far better, it's like having a free superpowered nunu. (Without Soraka you just need to not use W for pure harrass and merely to crush every trading situation) But W is also significantly more burst than Q... So even with Taric, where your support is setting up burst situations, W is still great. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
I think he might need a small nerf. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play. Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken. He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On August 22 2012 17:39 Shiv. wrote: Maxing W wins trades, and people figured that out. I think the main thing, that we were talking about here or in the GD one, was people realized you can right click and have a spell other than q for damage | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On August 23 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote: Win rates aren't always the best thing to go off of. It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play. Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken. He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon. Ofc win % is not the only thing. It was an addendum to his W trading power and his blink. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On August 23 2012 03:20 Sufficiency wrote: Ofc win % is not the only thing. It was an addendum to his W trading power and his blink. I just don't know what you can really do with W. If you nerf the AS slow too much, it becomes what everyone thought it was originally, a useless AP nuke that only is there to shoot through minions. It's really his big selling point right now, that he can duel every AD because of W. He's comparatively weak in teamfights when you look at Kog/Vayne/Ashe/etc. But that's just my opinion. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On August 23 2012 03:23 Requizen wrote: I just don't know what you can really do with W. If you nerf the AS slow too much, it becomes what everyone thought it was originally, a useless AP nuke that only is there to shoot through minions. It's really his big selling point right now, that he can duel every AD because of W. He's comparatively weak in teamfights when you look at Kog/Vayne/Ashe/etc. But that's just my opinion. Put the mana cost back where it was before they randomly buffed it? Now that people realized that it isn't a garbage skill, they'll be more willing to pay more mana for it. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On August 23 2012 03:23 Requizen wrote: I just don't know what you can really do with W. If you nerf the AS slow too much, it becomes what everyone thought it was originally, a useless AP nuke that only is there to shoot through minions. It's really his big selling point right now, that he can duel every AD because of W. He's comparatively weak in teamfights when you look at Kog/Vayne/Ashe/etc. But that's just my opinion. He's only weaker in teamfights under ideal situations for Kog/Ashe. Last night I beat an Ez in lane pretty handily as Kog (2 Kills, ~ 35 CS), but in teamfights he didn't need peels, so if my flash was down we lost. Also, people somehow think standing in R and W is a good idea in SoloQ. | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
Any tips for facing him (besides dodging shit)? I tend to do best with Corki, but if it's something like Ez/Taric I just can't dodge anything and get bullied out of lane all day. | ||
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On August 24 2012 20:29 Argoth. wrote: Has Ezreal's E priority for champions over minions? Nope. Nearest target. It would be so broken for AP ezreal if it was champion priority. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On August 24 2012 16:53 Lmui wrote: I personally like picking sivir against ezreal over caitlyn. Skillshot vs skillshot but you have a truck of a skillshot that'll do 1/3rd of his health early vs a few pinprick skillshots. her skillshot is good but her ability to bait out Q/E for free mana is even better | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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