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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-26 20:06:22
June 26 2012 20:05 GMT
#381
IMO maxing W is way better than maxing Q. I'd only max Q first if you're with someone like taric and are going to do a lot of blink -> melee bursting where they won't be able to dodge the Qs. If the lane is trade-y maxing W is far better, it's like having a free superpowered nunu.

(Without Soraka you just need to not use W for pure harrass and merely to crush every trading situation)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 08:19:05
August 22 2012 08:18 GMT
#382
How comes, ezreal is so super popular these days? Not that long ago he had fallen from grace. I don't mind becuse I really like playing him, he's such a fun champ.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
August 22 2012 08:39 GMT
#383
On August 22 2012 17:18 Argoth. wrote:
How comes, ezreal is so super popular these days? Not that long ago he had fallen from grace. I don't mind becuse I really like playing him, he's such a fun champ.

Maxing W wins trades, and people figured that out.
currently rooting for myself.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 22 2012 08:44 GMT
#384
On August 22 2012 17:39 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 17:18 Argoth. wrote:
How comes, ezreal is so super popular these days? Not that long ago he had fallen from grace. I don't mind becuse I really like playing him, he's such a fun champ.

Maxing W wins trades, and people figured that out.


This. And that his E is absolutely broken in a teamfight.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 22 2012 13:47 GMT
#385
And Pulsefire. I love that skin and don't regret buying it, but goddamn it brought out a lot of shitty Ez players looking to justify their money.
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 22 2012 13:50 GMT
#386
On June 27 2012 05:05 Shikyo wrote:
IMO maxing W is way better than maxing Q. I'd only max Q first if you're with someone like taric and are going to do a lot of blink -> melee bursting where they won't be able to dodge the Qs. If the lane is trade-y maxing W is far better, it's like having a free superpowered nunu.

(Without Soraka you just need to not use W for pure harrass and merely to crush every trading situation)

But W is also significantly more burst than Q... So even with Taric, where your support is setting up burst situations, W is still great.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-22 16:13:14
August 22 2012 16:12 GMT
#387
Something else to note is that Ezreal has been EXTREMELY CONSISTENTLY winning at 53% in ranked games for at least a month now. He is currently the ADC with the highest win rate (Compared to Graves around 50%, MF hovering around 51-53%, Corki/Ashe around 49%, and Vayne around 45-47%).

I think he might need a small nerf.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 22 2012 16:18 GMT
#388
Win rates aren't always the best thing to go off of.

It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play.

Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken.

He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon.
It's your boy Guzma!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
August 22 2012 18:09 GMT
#389
On August 22 2012 17:39 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2012 17:18 Argoth. wrote:
How comes, ezreal is so super popular these days? Not that long ago he had fallen from grace. I don't mind becuse I really like playing him, he's such a fun champ.

Maxing W wins trades, and people figured that out.

I think the main thing, that we were talking about here or in the GD one, was people realized you can right click and have a spell other than q for damage
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 22 2012 18:20 GMT
#390
On August 23 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
Win rates aren't always the best thing to go off of.

It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play.

Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken.

He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon.


Ofc win % is not the only thing. It was an addendum to his W trading power and his blink.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 22 2012 18:23 GMT
#391
On August 23 2012 03:20 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
Win rates aren't always the best thing to go off of.

It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play.

Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken.

He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon.


Ofc win % is not the only thing. It was an addendum to his W trading power and his blink.

I just don't know what you can really do with W. If you nerf the AS slow too much, it becomes what everyone thought it was originally, a useless AP nuke that only is there to shoot through minions. It's really his big selling point right now, that he can duel every AD because of W. He's comparatively weak in teamfights when you look at Kog/Vayne/Ashe/etc. But that's just my opinion.
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
August 22 2012 18:43 GMT
#392
On August 23 2012 03:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:20 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
Win rates aren't always the best thing to go off of.

It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play.

Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken.

He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon.


Ofc win % is not the only thing. It was an addendum to his W trading power and his blink.

I just don't know what you can really do with W. If you nerf the AS slow too much, it becomes what everyone thought it was originally, a useless AP nuke that only is there to shoot through minions. It's really his big selling point right now, that he can duel every AD because of W. He's comparatively weak in teamfights when you look at Kog/Vayne/Ashe/etc. But that's just my opinion.

Put the mana cost back where it was before they randomly buffed it? Now that people realized that it isn't a garbage skill, they'll be more willing to pay more mana for it.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 22 2012 19:11 GMT
#393
On August 23 2012 03:23 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2012 03:20 Sufficiency wrote:
On August 23 2012 01:18 Requizen wrote:
Win rates aren't always the best thing to go off of.

It also depends on what you're balancing around. In solo queue, an aggressive bot lane often wins over a passive one because of how solo queue works. Ezreal is a great aggressive laner who works with nearly any support, so of course he's great there. Passive farmers like Kog, for instance, tend not to do as well, because of lack of warding, map awareness, and team play.

Ez is also very much suited for solo play because he doesn't really require a team around him. Again, a Kog with a team is much more dangerous than an Ez with one, I'd say, but a Kog with a bad team (can't peel, no CC, etc) is going to seem useless in comparison. Ez's kit - with burst, mobility, and range - is well suited to playing solo queue and succeeding. That doesn't make him broken.

He may be a bit on the strong side, I'll admit, but I don't think he's deserving of a nerf any time soon.


Ofc win % is not the only thing. It was an addendum to his W trading power and his blink.

I just don't know what you can really do with W. If you nerf the AS slow too much, it becomes what everyone thought it was originally, a useless AP nuke that only is there to shoot through minions. It's really his big selling point right now, that he can duel every AD because of W. He's comparatively weak in teamfights when you look at Kog/Vayne/Ashe/etc. But that's just my opinion.


He's only weaker in teamfights under ideal situations for Kog/Ashe. Last night I beat an Ez in lane pretty handily as Kog (2 Kills, ~ 35 CS), but in teamfights he didn't need peels, so if my flash was down we lost. Also, people somehow think standing in R and W is a good idea in SoloQ.
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Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
August 24 2012 07:25 GMT
#394
Can't seem to beat Ezreal in lane for the life of me...

Any tips for facing him (besides dodging shit)? I tend to do best with Corki, but if it's something like Ez/Taric I just can't dodge anything and get bullied out of lane all day.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
August 24 2012 07:41 GMT
#395
Play Cait. Everyone's forgotten about her.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 24 2012 07:53 GMT
#396
I personally like picking sivir against ezreal over caitlyn. Skillshot vs skillshot but you have a truck of a skillshot that'll do 1/3rd of his health early vs a few pinprick skillshots.
Argoth.
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1961 Posts
August 24 2012 11:29 GMT
#397
Has Ezreal's E priority for champions over minions?
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
August 24 2012 11:47 GMT
#398
On August 24 2012 20:29 Argoth. wrote:
Has Ezreal's E priority for champions over minions?


Nope. Nearest target. It would be so broken for AP ezreal if it was champion priority.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
August 24 2012 11:47 GMT
#399
On August 24 2012 16:53 Lmui wrote:
I personally like picking sivir against ezreal over caitlyn. Skillshot vs skillshot but you have a truck of a skillshot that'll do 1/3rd of his health early vs a few pinprick skillshots.


her skillshot is good but her ability to bait out Q/E for free mana is even better
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WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 03 2012 22:15 GMT
#400
Do you still max W after the slight nerf ? I just completly suck with Ez it's quite frustrating, need tips (I'm at 1500 elo and usually play kog / vayne / graves / MF, or jungler)
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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