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WARNING:This is a long poll because I think that if you love Starcraft you should be willing to sacrifice some of your time answering these questions so that Blizzard and others like ESL or Dreamhack have a better idea of what the community is thinking about LOTV. Please be patient.
So, after hours of reading TeamLiquid threads about LOTV and after playing the Beta a lot of questions have been raised in my mind. Reading through all of it I´ve noticed that the community is split apart in their opinion about the game, probably even more than ever. I have decided to launch a series of polls so we can have a clear view of the overall thoughts of the community regarding LOTV.
After reading the last Community Feedback Update, Its been made clear that soon the team working on Void will start paying more attention to balance rather than general design, so this might be the last call to give Blizzard and more specifically David Kim feedback about what we think the general direction our beloved game is following.
Before starting the poll I would like to encourage everyone you know that plays starcraft to answer the questions exposed below. A lot of these have been done already but they are either outdated or the number of people that answer them is small.
Poll: Name the race you play In LOTVZerg (151) 33% Terran (124) 27% Protoss (120) 26% Random (63) 14% 458 total votes Your vote: Name the race you play In LOTV (Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Zerg
(Vote): Random
Poll: Do you like the general direction the game is taking?Yes (308) 69% No (139) 31% 447 total votes Your vote: Do you like the general direction the game is taking? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: Like the current LOTV econ model or would you like to see a change?It needs a redesign (Not meaning DH or similar, just a redesign) (286) 68% Keep it as it is. (133) 32% 419 total votes Your vote: Like the current LOTV econ model or would you like to see a change? (Vote): Keep it as it is.
(Vote): It needs a redesign (Not meaning DH or similar, just a redesign)
Poll: How do you feel about the 12 worker start?I like it. (247) 54% Not at 6 but neither at 12. (139) 30% Keep it at 6. (72) 16% 458 total votes Your vote: How do you feel about the 12 worker start? (Vote): I like it.
(Vote): Keep it at 6.
(Vote): Not at 6 but neither at 12.
Poll: About the pace of the game, how do you think it is?Very Fast compared to HOTS. (305) 74% Slightly faster than HOTS. (94) 23% Normal, like HOTS. (12) 3% 411 total votes Your vote: About the pace of the game, how do you think it is? (Vote): Normal, like HOTS.
(Vote): Slightly faster than HOTS.
(Vote): Very Fast compared to HOTS.
Poll: Do you like the pace of the game?Yes (260) 63% No (154) 37% 414 total votes Your vote: Do you like the pace of the game? (Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
Poll: What do you think is the weakest race in LOTV currently?Protoss (281) 76% Terran (48) 13% Zerg (40) 11% 369 total votes Your vote: What do you think is the weakest race in LOTV currently? (Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Zerg
Poll: And the strongest?Zerg (197) 54% Terran (147) 40% Protoss (20) 5% 364 total votes Your vote: And the strongest? (Vote): Protoss
(Vote): Terran
(Vote): Zerg
Poll: Overall, are you happy with Blizz´s reaction to the feedback provided?Yes, im very happy with Blizzard, they hear us and react accordingly. (221) 61% No, im very unhappy with Blizzards response when it comes to fixing issues we come up with. (143) 39% 364 total votes Your vote: Overall, are you happy with Blizz´s reaction to the feedback provided? (Vote): No, im very unhappy with Blizzards response when it comes to fixing issues we come up with.
(Vote): Yes, im very happy with Blizzard, they hear us and react accordingly.
Poll: When it comes to gameplay, do you think the game is too volatile?Yes, I think the game is too volatile. (237) 69% No, I think games are not volatile. (105) 31% 342 total votes Your vote: When it comes to gameplay, do you think the game is too volatile? (Vote): No, I think games are not volatile.
(Vote): Yes, I think the game is too volatile.
Poll: Excited for LOTV?Yes, very. (229) 56% So,so. (110) 27% No, not much. (70) 17% 409 total votes Your vote: Excited for LOTV? (Vote): Yes, very.
(Vote): No, not much.
(Vote): So,so.
Poll: Excited for Archon Mode?Yes, Its going to be great. (198) 49% Not much, I prefer standard 1v1. (134) 33% So,so. (69) 17% 401 total votes Your vote: Excited for Archon Mode? (Vote): Yes, Its going to be great.
(Vote): Not much, I prefer standard 1v1.
(Vote): So,so.
Poll: About the macro mechanics, how do you feel about them?Yes, remove them completely. (154) 37% Tone them down a bit. (138) 33% Dont touch them at all (129) 31% 421 total votes Your vote: About the macro mechanics, how do you feel about them? (Vote): Yes, remove them completely.
(Vote): Tone them down a bit.
(Vote): Dont touch them at all
Poll: Where does, In your opinion, the beauty of starcraft lie mainly?Strategy, tactics and thinking. (257) 68% Macro Mechanics. (63) 17% Something different. (53) 14% Buil Orders. (6) 2% 379 total votes Your vote: Where does, In your opinion, the beauty of starcraft lie mainly? (Vote): Macro Mechanics.
(Vote): Strategy, tactics and thinking.
(Vote): Buil Orders.
(Vote): Something different.
Poll: Is blizzard focusing too much on the spectator rather than the player?Yes, they are focusing a lot on the viewership. (284) 82% No, they mainly think about gameplay rather than viewership. (63) 18% 347 total votes Your vote: Is blizzard focusing too much on the spectator rather than the player? (Vote): Yes, they are focusing a lot on the viewership.
(Vote): No, they mainly think about gameplay rather than viewership.
Poll: On which should they focus more?Players more. (317) 89% Viewers more. (38) 11% 355 total votes Your vote: On which should they focus more? (Vote): Players more.
(Vote): Viewers more.
Poll: Finally, Will you buy LOTV even if you dont like the multiplayer?Yes, I will. (280) 68% No, I wont buy it. (70) 17% I dont know. (45) 11% Other answer. (17) 4% 412 total votes Your vote: Finally, Will you buy LOTV even if you dont like the multiplayer? (Vote): Yes, I will.
(Vote): I dont know.
(Vote): No, I wont buy it.
(Vote): Other answer.
Thanks for answering the questions if you made it, Im sure you love Starcraft and want to see it grow healthily. I hope enough people will do this poll so Blizzard can know if they are going the right way.
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I miss a middle road on Overall, are you happy with Blizz´s reaction to the feedback provided?, e.g. they are doing much better than before, but they could do even better.
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I answered all questions except for which race I think is strongest/weakest (because quite frankly I don't think anyone I have faced nor myself have properly figured out how to play with the new units, how they interact with each other, what units you can tech to safely at what points in time etc.) and what I think about macro mechanics because none of the presented options represent my opinion: I am indifferent about macro mechanics. To me macro mechanics does not make the game what it is and the removal of macro mechanics will change the game but will not change what the game is.
edit: also as the above poster I feel a lot of polls deserve more options to make it less of a binary choice, a lot of polls seem like they are basically:
what would you rather do?
a) blow up blizzard HQ
b) marry david kim
there should be at least 4 available options to each question, 5 if it is likely that some people simply don't care about it.
more in the style of:
do you agree with [BLANK]?
1 - Do not agree at all
2
3 - neutral (omit if it is important to know what way people lean, but definitely have this if it is likely that some people simply don't care about [BLANK])
4
5 - Completely agree
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I agree with needing a middle road on the "does Blizz hear us" question. I voted "very happy" because I'm more happy than unhappy, but definitely not very happy.
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There needs to be more balanced answers to a few of these questions. For example, what if somebody thinks the races are quite balanced, there is no option to say that. Or what if we like Archon mode but we want to see it become even better.
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Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
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On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Can u pls stop this balance whine thing. In every thread u do that. Holy... pls...
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Im sorry for not adding those options, did not think about it to be honest but I understand your points.
Again, my apologies, I tried to keep the questions as balanced as I could.
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On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Least there is agreement for once which race is the shittiest.
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On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Can someone seriously ban him already? He is just whining like a 5 year old about balance in every single thread without contributing anything to the discussion.
Zerg won as many Lycan tournaments for example as Terran did, I don't know where you get these "stats" from, oh yeah they are made up because that's what you do in every thread, you make up random shit and whine.
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I miss the option "I want to test buffing macro mechanics".
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On August 16 2015 23:10 Beastyqt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Can someone seriously ban him already? He is just whining like a 5 year old about balance in every single thread without contributing anything to the discussion. Zerg won as many Lycan tournaments for example as Terran did, I don't know where you get these "stats" from, oh yeah they are made up because that's what you do in every thread, you make up random shit and whine.
Redbull tournament... 3 TvT finals.
Im contributing by saying that some changes are need it. To all races... from 8 gate adept all ins to mass carriers... mass cylones etc.
Also Zerg won alot during the Ravager period at the start of beta, before it was nerfed. After that it all whent downhill.
On August 16 2015 23:09 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Least there is agreement for once which race is the shittiest.
Yes with the exception of all ins, protoss lacks alot... maybe the disruptor change... by turning it into a reaver like unit will fix alot... not to mention the buff to defensive warp ins.
In theory protoss should be able to expand and defend alot better.
User was temp banned for this post.
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Good idea for a poll, but some really poorly worded and divisive questions.
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Good idea for a poll, but some really poorly worded and divisive questions.
Your words hurt me, but you are right. My most sincere apologies.
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If only the people who liked macro and mechanics didnt leave the game like 3 years ago
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I voted in most of the polls, but this isn't remotely helpful as any kind of statistical measure of how happy/unhappy the general population is with LotV.
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On August 16 2015 23:22 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:10 Beastyqt wrote:On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Can someone seriously ban him already? He is just whining like a 5 year old about balance in every single thread without contributing anything to the discussion. Zerg won as many Lycan tournaments for example as Terran did, I don't know where you get these "stats" from, oh yeah they are made up because that's what you do in every thread, you make up random shit and whine. Redbull tournament... 3 TvT finals. .
Redbull is ARCHON mode and is completely irrelevant for this whole thing. 1v1 is the main mode that is used in WCS/GSL/SSL/BlizzCon and guess what? Zerg is the strongest in 1v1 right now.
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On August 16 2015 23:06 Phaenoman wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Can u pls stop this balance whine thing. In every thread u do that. Holy... pls...
It's bad--and annoying--and he probably means well, but this behavior will stop if we stop feeding into it.
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On August 16 2015 23:22 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:10 Beastyqt wrote:On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Can someone seriously ban him already? He is just whining like a 5 year old about balance in every single thread without contributing anything to the discussion. Zerg won as many Lycan tournaments for example as Terran did, I don't know where you get these "stats" from, oh yeah they are made up because that's what you do in every thread, you make up random shit and whine. Redbull tournament... 3 TvT finals. Im contributing by saying that some changes are need it. To all races... from 8 gate adept all ins to mass carriers... mass cylones etc. Also Zerg won alot during the Ravager period at the start of beta, before it was nerfed. After that it all whent downhill. Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:09 HellHound wrote:On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Least there is agreement for once which race is the shittiest. Yes with the exception of all ins, protoss lacks alot... maybe the disruptor change... by turning it into a reaver like unit will fix alot... not to mention the buff to defensive warp ins. In theory protoss should be able to expand and defend alot better.
Nerchio beat me last week 3-0 in finals, what the hell are you talking about?
Archon mode qualifiers were 2 Korean T progamers vs no two Z progamers, it was always good Z with his friend or gf so your argument is completely invalid. Not to mention Archon mode =/= 1v1.
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On August 16 2015 23:09 HellHound wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2015 23:03 ZergLingShepherd1 wrote:
Its so funny seeing people say Zerg is the strongest when all torunaments are mostly TvT finals or a Terran winning.
Least there is agreement for once which race is the shittiest.
Can agree that the Adept is the overall strongest new unit? Cyber tech. High HP (with an HP upgrade). Bonus to light. Ranged. Fast moving. Invulnerable teleporting. Fairly inexpensive. Seems a bit much, no? Mass Adept is incredibly difficult to deal with in TvP. That, and dealing with carrier play is extremely difficult as well.
Maybe unlock Ghosts at tech lab? Remove bonus to light on Adept? Somethings got to give on this one, I think.
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