On April 27 2016 04:41 GrandInquisitor wrote:
It's a pretty cool new direction of art for them. I wonder if it's something they'll continue to explore.

It's "X game that came out that's really popular, let's make some skins that resemble the art style." Dark Souls edition.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

April 26 2016 21:05 GMT

#586

On April 27 2016 05:08 Gahlo wrote:

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It's "X game that came out that's really popular, let's make some skins that resemble the art style." Darkest dungeon edition.

Fixed, i mean singed is literally a plague doctor

Obligitory Darkest Dungeon is a fun game you should check it out if you haven't already.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

April 28 2016 11:57 GMT

#587

I want to try Tank Annie.

E makes her friggen unkillable with 45% CDR and tanky items. She gets the rocket jump belt to engage, flat 40% damage reduction for 3 seconds out of every 5.5 seconds, and them stuns.

Basically Maokai but you stun their whole team.

Bladeorade

United States1898 Posts

April 28 2016 13:25 GMT

#588

Tank Annie top lane? I mean, she still has 3 pure damage spells. An AoE stun is not like Maokai. Where do you get 40% damage reduction?

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

April 28 2016 13:41 GMT

#589

Tank annie top was really strong in season 3. Since then those aspects of her kit have been nerfed considerably. It's aight but if you want a tanky build Rylai's/liandry's with DFT is the best option currently.

Gahlo

United States35174 Posts

April 28 2016 13:50 GMT

#590

On April 28 2016 22:25 Bladeorade wrote:
Tank Annie top lane? I mean, she still has 3 pure damage spells. An AoE stun is not like Maokai. Where do you get 40% damage reduction?

I believe he is misremembering the resists on Molten Shield.

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

April 28 2016 14:04 GMT

#591

http://www.surrenderat20.net/p/69-pbe-cycle.html#8

Molten Shield (E):
Duration reduced to 3 seconds from 5 seconds
No longer grants Armor/MR
Now reduces damage by 16/22/28/34/40%
No longer speeds up Tibbers (moved to R passive)

EDIT: Can anyone with PBE access confirm this? Because like... 40% damage reduction is pretty much the best Defensive steroid in the game. Aside from perhaps Kench's Kit.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

April 29 2016 15:16 GMT

#592

Well it's only 3 seconds. And I can think of quite a few better defensive steroids - Alistar's Unbreakable Will, Braum's Unbreakable, Garen's Courage, Rammus's Defensive Ball Curl. Though it's true that this is probably the best defensive steroid on a ranged champ?

VayneAuthority

United States8983 Posts

April 29 2016 17:49 GMT

#593

Might be worth tinkering with a Q > E max tank build.

Otherwise won't matter, you won't get it until lvl 18.

but sacrificing some burst for a lot of survivability as a top lane annie is an interesting thought.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

April 29 2016 18:47 GMT

#594

Hope it's viable mid so we can get a glorious "tank lane any lane" meta.

JimmiC

Canada22817 Posts

April 29 2016 19:54 GMT

#595

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iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

April 29 2016 20:39 GMT

#596

On April 30 2016 00:16 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Well it's only 3 seconds. And I can think of quite a few better defensive steroids - Alistar's Unbreakable Will, Braum's Unbreakable, Garen's Courage, Rammus's Defensive Ball Curl. Though it's true that this is probably the best defensive steroid on a ranged champ?

I'll concede alistar ult, but I think Annie E is flat out better than Rammus W at most points in the game, except perhaps very early where just having more armor might get you more damage reduction than stacking early E and like 50 armor... that being said once ADC has %pen Annie E is way stronger than Rammus W. Annie E will also work on magic damage.

Garen W I think is debatable and without doing the math I assume at some point Annie E over takes it. If I recall correctly it's 30% at level 5 with like 80 resists?

I think being able to pump out multiple AoE stuns in a teamfight is huuge. Traditionally Annie isn't really able to do that because of her lack of survivability, she'd have to blow her load then leave. But full tank Annie with this E could load up and either AoE stun or single target stun every 4 seconds basically. I think that's plenty utility, and I think her base damage is high enough that you'd be a threat. I certainly wouldn't want to be tp flanked by an unlikable Annie stunbot.

I'm not saying it's good, just saying that it seems to me like there is potential there. Certainly I think full tank Annie has more utility than full tank alkali. You also probably bully a lot of lanes top quite hard.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

April 30 2016 17:32 GMT

#597

To be clear - Rammus W also works on magic damage. Braum's W is 40% reduction for 4s; Garen W is 30% reduction for 6s (and it's 30% at level 1). I think the new Annie E just doesn't last that long for it to be as game-changing as you suggest it to be.

That being said tank Annie has been played before already, so this only makes it even better. Maybe Iceborn Gauntlet, for the CDR + slow from her very long-range autos? Does Tibbers proc Iceborn?

iCanada

Canada10660 Posts

May 02 2016 01:59 GMT

#598

On May 01 2016 02:32 GrandInquisitor wrote:
To be clear - Rammus W also works on magic damage. Braum's W is 40% reduction for 4s; Garen W is 30% reduction for 6s (and it's 30% at level 1). I think the new Annie E just doesn't last that long for it to be as game-changing as you suggest it to be.

That being said tank Annie has been played before already, so this only makes it even better. Maybe Iceborn Gauntlet, for the CDR + slow from her very long-range autos? Does Tibbers proc Iceborn?

Not sure.

I am intrigued in the very least. I think Annie with Ice-born suddenly provides a ton of utility.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

May 02 2016 09:55 GMT

#599

Pretty sure Tibbers wouldn't apply Iceborn, it'd imply it would trigger Lichbane too and that instaburst would be rather silly. Considering Yorick, Heimerdinger and Malzahars minions (at least now) doesn't trigger any Sheen items too, I'd say no. On-hit minions on any would be rather silly tbh, Nash/Wit's End Heimerdinger?
- could be interesting, but kinda broken on other champions and for c l a r i t y I dont think Tibbers would be unique in this regard.

Wouldn't Rylai's be better than Iceborn since it adds quite some damage, HP scale really well with %-reduction and the perma slow from Tibbers aura (which do work). You can already get a bunch of easy cdr from Ionia's (core for flash reduction on her anyway imo) and the billion new AP CDR items.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

May 02 2016 14:40 GMT

#600

Rylai's is a great item on Annie, always has been, but if you're building tank Annie I would think that you really want to hit 40% CDR ASAP. I haven't taken a close look at the new AP CDR items, but maybe you can get there quickly with that new pseudo-flash item + Ionian boots + runes? If so then you have room to be building Rylai's and other tanky-AP-no-CDR items.