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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-02 22:30:52
May 02 2016 14:59 GMT
#601
On May 02 2016 18:55 Jek wrote:
Pretty sure Tibbers wouldn't apply Iceborn, it'd imply it would trigger Lichbane too and that instaburst would be rather silly. Considering Yorick, Heimerdinger and Malzahars minions (at least now) doesn't trigger any Sheen items too, I'd say no. On-hit minions on any would be rather silly tbh, Nash/Wit's End Heimerdinger?
- could be interesting, but kinda broken on other champions and for c l a r i t y I dont think Tibbers would be unique in this regard.

Wouldn't Rylai's be better than Iceborn since it adds quite some damage, HP scale really well with %-reduction and the perma slow from Tibbers aura (which do work). You can already get a bunch of easy cdr from Ionia's (core for flash reduction on her anyway imo) and the billion new AP CDR items.


That being said, I believe Shaco clone procs almost all on hits except Sheen effects.

Tibbers is probably the same way. I bet Tibbers AoE procs Rylais regardless though.

EDIT: I'm with GI, not sure on CDR, but you definitely want to have if maxed ASAP. Protobelt is 10%, Masteries is 5%, runes you could feasibly get 10% (although, not if you laning vs an AP). 10% from ionion, then you still need 20%. Icebound makes you hit that right away, otherwise you'd need a Morello's / Athenes / or some combination of items.

Zhonya's + Abyssal would get you there, but I think you want to have 40% before that for teamfights. I'd prolly rush Protobelt > Boots > IBG. Unless they real magic heavy, then you prolly want Abyssal instead of IBG?

I think it would depend on game and if you fed.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 23 2016 22:09 GMT
#602
No one uses this thread any more, which is a real shame. But anyway - I think it's interesting that on the latest PBE Riot is increasing mana costs for a lot of abilities. There was definitely a period where Riot tried really hard to cut everyone's mana costs if someone needed a buff, in order to make that champion more 'fun', since it's not fun to be OOM. Interesting that they're reversing that trend now.
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Radoq
Profile Joined January 2015
1809 Posts
August 23 2016 22:30 GMT
#603
? One Liss nerf is a lot? Or did i not notice something.

For me they should just rework passive or small rework her because this is like with old veigar that had mana passive and then they didnt know how to work around that passive.

GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
August 23 2016 22:33 GMT
#604
I guess I should have said mana-limiting in general, not just mana costs. Sivir has much less mana regen and Taliyah has both less mana regen and mana growth.
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Nemireck
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1875 Posts
September 03 2016 17:33 GMT
#605
On August 24 2016 07:09 GrandInquisitor wrote:
No one uses this thread any more, which is a real shame.


I couldn't find it for the last month or two, even with a keyword search. Must have been good and buried.

Given the lack of discussion in general on the PBE, kinda feel like the "Latest Changes" link should just be included in the main patch discussion OP.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
December 07 2016 23:41 GMT
#606
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2016/12/127-pbe-update.html

yay finally reverting the W change to syndra from the update and giving her some true damage on W so MR stack isnt as problematic as it is for her currently
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 08 2016 13:16 GMT
#607
'cause true damage is the true answer, uh.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 16:05:13
December 08 2016 15:23 GMT
#608
I don't think it'd be a trend for burst mages - Syndra is uniquely hurt by MR amongst all burst mages, because I can't think of another champ at the moment whose burst is affected multiple times by resistances. Maybe Zed? Ha, just imagine the Reddit salt if one day a nerfed Zed gets compensatory true damage. I'm retarded.

Personally I'm more surprised they didn't just give her MR shred on Q/W or something like that.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
December 08 2016 15:27 GMT
#609
On December 09 2016 00:23 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I don't think it'd be a trend for burst mages - Syndra is uniquely hurt by MR amongst all burst mages, because I can't think of another champ at the moment whose burst is affected multiple times by resistances. Maybe Zed? Ha, just imagine the Reddit salt if one day a nerfed Zed gets compensatory true damage.

Personally I'm more surprised they didn't just give her MR shred on Q/W or something like that.


Perhaps I'm being deft, but how does syndras burst get effected multiple times by resist? She isn't hit by the cube of Damage Reduction is she?
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-12-08 16:06:02
December 08 2016 16:04 GMT
#610
Probably because I'm retarded? For some reason I thought her ult worked like Zed's, which is double-affected by armor. But obviously not.
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
December 14 2016 00:14 GMT
#611
Kalista
Rend (E) :
Passive no longer deactivates when E is on CD,
Minimum units killed for for mana cost refund lowered to 1 from 2.

so who missed seeing kalista in competitive?
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