EPTOn May 02 2016 18:55 Jek wrote:
Pretty sure Tibbers wouldn't apply Iceborn, it'd imply it would trigger Lichbane too and that instaburst would be rather silly. Considering Yorick, Heimerdinger and Malzahars minions (at least now) doesn't trigger any Sheen items too, I'd say no. On-hit minions on any would be rather silly tbh, Nash/Wit's End Heimerdinger?
- could be interesting, but kinda broken on other champions and for c l a r i t y I dont think Tibbers would be unique in this regard.
Wouldn't Rylai's be better than Iceborn since it adds quite some damage, HP scale really well with %-reduction and the perma slow from Tibbers aura (which do work). You can already get a bunch of easy cdr from Ionia's (core for flash reduction on her anyway imo) and the billion new AP CDR items.
Pretty sure Tibbers wouldn't apply Iceborn, it'd imply it would trigger Lichbane too and that instaburst would be rather silly. Considering Yorick, Heimerdinger and Malzahars minions (at least now) doesn't trigger any Sheen items too, I'd say no. On-hit minions on any would be rather silly tbh, Nash/Wit's End Heimerdinger?
- could be interesting, but kinda broken on other champions and for c l a r i t y I dont think Tibbers would be unique in this regard.
Wouldn't Rylai's be better than Iceborn since it adds quite some damage, HP scale really well with %-reduction and the perma slow from Tibbers aura (which do work). You can already get a bunch of easy cdr from Ionia's (core for flash reduction on her anyway imo) and the billion new AP CDR items.
That being said, I believe Shaco clone procs almost all on hits except Sheen effects.
Tibbers is probably the same way. I bet Tibbers AoE procs Rylais regardless though.
EDIT: I'm with GI, not sure on CDR, but you definitely want to have if maxed ASAP. Protobelt is 10%, Masteries is 5%, runes you could feasibly get 10% (although, not if you laning vs an AP). 10% from ionion, then you still need 20%. Icebound makes you hit that right away, otherwise you'd need a Morello's / Athenes / or some combination of items.
Zhonya's + Abyssal would get you there, but I think you want to have 40% before that for teamfights. I'd prolly rush Protobelt > Boots > IBG. Unless they real magic heavy, then you prolly want Abyssal instead of IBG?
I think it would depend on game and if you fed.
