Heroes Large General Thread - Page 401

On April 13 2015 05:53 Thezzy wrote:
I've had a similar thing on certain games when I play with a friend in QM.
In one game on Tomb of the Spider Queen we went as Zagara (my main) and he went Abathur.
Even though he was somewhat new with Abathur he did fine and we did the bottom lane together, going to mid if we needed to help the team with anything.

We had Stitches + Li Li in our lane so it was mostly my Zagara buffed with Symbiote and a few Locusts and together we communicated good locations for a bunch of Toxic Nests where I could kite them into. We got both Stitches and Li Li a few times with that and defended the lane well, not losing a tower. We'd keep an eye on mid to help if needed but since we already had Stitches and Li Li to contend with we mostly stayed in lane. After the first Spider Queens we managed to take down their towers, gate and fountain and got the Fort to half. Their Spider Queen didn't bring anything down in our lane but did manage to push in mid.

Enter Uther and Illidan (in mid and top) suddenly whining loudly that Zagara and Abathur are only staying in their lane and not helping the team. In the team scores both Uther and Illidan have several deaths and low damage numbers. That in itself isn't too much of an indicator but soon enough I saw Illidan solo-diving two heroes and dying as a result. They continue to flame and whine and be absolutely stupid in defending mid and lose the Fort to the next wave. We assist in defending and still manage to keep our lane intact.

They then randomly decide to go for Boss even though the enemy has no heroes down but we decide it's better to do a bad thing as a team than a good thing by ourselves. The enemy team quickly catches up and manages to kill us and take the Boss, courtesy of Illidan solo diving and Uther randomly giving Zagara Divine Shield which does almost nothing.
I manage to keep Tyrande (our fifth) alive with a Maw placement who suddenly chats a 'ty' and starts talking back to Uther and Illidan who blame everything on me and my friend and we lose the game shortly after.

The most annoying thing is that whenever we did the right team thing (going for merc camps at the right time, turning in coins together with Tyrande) we get flamed for not being in the lane, and when Illidan dies for the tenth time by solo diving the enemy team it's also our fault. In one case I was unable to turn in coins for a while because the enemy team had an advantage and slowly stocked up 25 gems, which Illidan ofcourse ranted about.
Whilst the enemy team at one point was taking mercs (which we knew thx to owl) I went in and sneaked out a gem exchange and got a wave in. Again, Illidan instantly flaming that I don't stick with the team even though he is just standing next to the core.

This game can be so much fun when the team grasps the basics, but I swear some people are just playing it to flame others and nothing else, or they are playing single player. In a game a few hours ago we had the most horrible Hammer I have yet to see. Literally AVOIDED every team fight intentionally, claiming Hammer should only push towers. Was never with the team, avoided the Mines half the time to solo push towers (getting killed every single time) and literally bad mouthed anyone, even when I only stated that if she wants to push, not to do it alone. Even when our core was being attacked, Hammer was solo pushing towers in bottom. In the end she went 4-14 and had a grand total of 10k hero damage.

Luckily most games are alright and a few are really good (if they aren't stomps) but every so often...I wonder why people are playing a team game.

On April 14 2015 00:09 Nizaris wrote:
maybe not vulnerable but i think they should prioritize you after you shoot some1, they are abit weak. maybe their damage should scale too cuz past the first 3-5 minutes they are pretty pointless, i think their damage scale with time in LoL iirc.

On April 14 2015 00:09 Nizaris wrote:
maybe not vulnerable but i think they should prioritize you after you shoot some1, they are abit weak. maybe their damage should scale too cuz past the first 3-5 minutes they are pretty pointless, i think their damage scale with time in LoL iirc.

On April 14 2015 01:30 deth2munkies wrote:


It does. In LoL it also ramps too, so every attack up to 4 (IIRC) does increasing damage. Base towers scale infinitely and slow and break armor.

I feel like they just need to re-design Abathur, I feel like his symbiote should be the impactful ability, not his locusts, yet almost all of his good upgrades are locust related.

On April 14 2015 01:52 xDaunt wrote:

I don't know about that. The symbiote abilities don't really compete too much with the locust abilities. And symbiote is plenty impactful right now if used on the right heroes. The utility from its global presence shouldn't be underestimated, either.

On April 14 2015 01:30 deth2munkies wrote:


It does. In LoL it also ramps too, so every attack up to 4 (IIRC) does increasing damage. Base towers scale infinitely and slow and break armor.

I feel like they just need to re-design Abathur, I feel like his symbiote should be the impactful ability, not his locusts, yet almost all of his good upgrades are locust related.

On April 14 2015 01:52 xDaunt wrote:

I don't know about that. The symbiote abilities don't really compete too much with the locust abilities. And symbiote is plenty impactful right now if used on the right heroes. The utility from its global presence shouldn't be underestimated, either.