EDIT : Just as expected. I started hero league with 5 wins and 1 loss. I kept wondering when i will have a losing streak. Just happened. Lost 8 in a row. At least now i know that i will win 2-3 times. Yay !
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Yosheekee
France111 Posts
EDIT : Just as expected. I started hero league with 5 wins and 1 loss. I kept wondering when i will have a losing streak. Just happened. Lost 8 in a row. At least now i know that i will win 2-3 times. Yay ! | ||
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Heyoka
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TheMcCannic
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Can't even find a restream or anything on twitch. Help anyone? | ||
Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
edit: im a bit late... | ||
TheMcCannic
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On April 12 2015 10:11 xDaunt wrote: Get another support. The two you have are both comparatively weak, and you can never have too many supports in this two support meta. I'd get Uther. took your advice and bought uther, won a hero league with him (at level 1 lol), think i like him. ty | ||
Topin
Peru10053 Posts
On April 13 2015 02:08 TheMcCannic wrote: Hey @Heyoka think I found it. http://www.twitch.tv/dantes_end Please keep this on the down low ![]() thx! | ||
xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On April 13 2015 03:00 Nizaris wrote: took your advice and bought uther, won a hero league with him (at level 1 lol), think i like him. ty Good choice. With all of his CC, Uther is like half support, half assassin. You can make so many plays with him. | ||
Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
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NonY
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i imagine they hate the solo queue players they get teamed with just as much as i hate them. but they're the ones at fault because there's NO chance of me making calls and leading the team as the solo player. if they don't do it, it doesn't get done. and they almost never do it. and it's often my high MMR dragging a bunch of newbs up to play against people who are better than them, and they need my calls and advice to win, so it's pretty much a no-win situation because they'll never follow my calls. i have to be the one to make a difference in the game, or else on average we're gonna lose much more than 50% of the time, and they just don't allow me to make a difference. sometimes i don't even know that they're grouped early on. i'll make a call and it'll just get ignored, and in retrospect it was almost always the right call, and then they resent me for it rofl. it's insane. i'm the bad guy for solo queuing and failing to read their minds and the fact that im actually right isn't the point! btw, about the 50% win thing: i think an interesting way to think about it is if you play average, then you win 50% of the time, right? so let's say that's 10 wins and 10 losses. if you want to win 55% of the time and slowly climb, then for every 10 of your wins that you get without doing something extra good, 1 in 10 of your losses you need to make the difference for it to be a win. MOST of the time, you're gonna feel like you can't get anything important done. it's a very long term thing and it takes a while to see results. a streak of bad luck could nullify a week's worth of playing or set you behind when you deserve to be ahead. i really think that paying attention to ranks and ratings and leagues and stuff is just a bad thing to do. those things are there to measure performance, but it's measuring your performance of your practice. there's no separating competing and practice for ladder players. once your MMR has settled and your newb gains have gone away, it's healthier to look at it as just practice, not a ladder climb, and let those measurements of your performance be viewed only on a macro scale (months and years). imagine that in 3 months, there's gonna be a week long ladder competition, and you're just practicing for that -- your current results don't matter. that is the mindset of improvement, and ultimately how you actually climb ranks. always be practicing for some ladder season that's never coming, while the current season means nothing. | ||
Thezzy
Netherlands2117 Posts
In one game on Tomb of the Spider Queen we went as Zagara (my main) and he went Abathur. Even though he was somewhat new with Abathur he did fine and we did the bottom lane together, going to mid if we needed to help the team with anything. We had Stitches + Li Li in our lane so it was mostly my Zagara buffed with Symbiote and a few Locusts and together we communicated good locations for a bunch of Toxic Nests where I could kite them into. We got both Stitches and Li Li a few times with that and defended the lane well, not losing a tower. We'd keep an eye on mid to help if needed but since we already had Stitches and Li Li to contend with we mostly stayed in lane. After the first Spider Queens we managed to take down their towers, gate and fountain and got the Fort to half. Their Spider Queen didn't bring anything down in our lane but did manage to push in mid. Enter Uther and Illidan (in mid and top) suddenly whining loudly that Zagara and Abathur are only staying in their lane and not helping the team. In the team scores both Uther and Illidan have several deaths and low damage numbers. That in itself isn't too much of an indicator but soon enough I saw Illidan solo-diving two heroes and dying as a result. They continue to flame and whine and be absolutely stupid in defending mid and lose the Fort to the next wave. We assist in defending and still manage to keep our lane intact. They then randomly decide to go for Boss even though the enemy has no heroes down but we decide it's better to do a bad thing as a team than a good thing by ourselves. The enemy team quickly catches up and manages to kill us and take the Boss, courtesy of Illidan solo diving and Uther randomly giving Zagara Divine Shield which does almost nothing. I manage to keep Tyrande (our fifth) alive with a Maw placement who suddenly chats a 'ty' and starts talking back to Uther and Illidan who blame everything on me and my friend and we lose the game shortly after. The most annoying thing is that whenever we did the right team thing (going for merc camps at the right time, turning in coins together with Tyrande) we get flamed for not being in the lane, and when Illidan dies for the tenth time by solo diving the enemy team it's also our fault. In one case I was unable to turn in coins for a while because the enemy team had an advantage and slowly stocked up 25 gems, which Illidan ofcourse ranted about. Whilst the enemy team at one point was taking mercs (which we knew thx to owl) I went in and sneaked out a gem exchange and got a wave in. Again, Illidan instantly flaming that I don't stick with the team even though he is just standing next to the core. This game can be so much fun when the team grasps the basics, but I swear some people are just playing it to flame others and nothing else, or they are playing single player. In a game a few hours ago we had the most horrible Hammer I have yet to see. Literally AVOIDED every team fight intentionally, claiming Hammer should only push towers. Was never with the team, avoided the Mines half the time to solo push towers (getting killed every single time) and literally bad mouthed anyone, even when I only stated that if she wants to push, not to do it alone. Even when our core was being attacked, Hammer was solo pushing towers in bottom. In the end she went 4-14 and had a grand total of 10k hero damage. Luckily most games are alright and a few are really good (if they aren't stomps) but every so often...I wonder why people are playing a team game. | ||
kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On April 13 2015 05:53 Thezzy wrote: I've had a similar thing on certain games when I play with a friend in QM. In one game on Tomb of the Spider Queen we went as Zagara (my main) and he went Abathur. Even though he was somewhat new with Abathur he did fine and we did the bottom lane together, going to mid if we needed to help the team with anything. We had Stitches + Li Li in our lane so it was mostly my Zagara buffed with Symbiote and a few Locusts and together we communicated good locations for a bunch of Toxic Nests where I could kite them into. We got both Stitches and Li Li a few times with that and defended the lane well, not losing a tower. We'd keep an eye on mid to help if needed but since we already had Stitches and Li Li to contend with we mostly stayed in lane. After the first Spider Queens we managed to take down their towers, gate and fountain and got the Fort to half. Their Spider Queen didn't bring anything down in our lane but did manage to push in mid. Enter Uther and Illidan (in mid and top) suddenly whining loudly that Zagara and Abathur are only staying in their lane and not helping the team. In the team scores both Uther and Illidan have several deaths and low damage numbers. That in itself isn't too much of an indicator but soon enough I saw Illidan solo-diving two heroes and dying as a result. They continue to flame and whine and be absolutely stupid in defending mid and lose the Fort to the next wave. We assist in defending and still manage to keep our lane intact. They then randomly decide to go for Boss even though the enemy has no heroes down but we decide it's better to do a bad thing as a team than a good thing by ourselves. The enemy team quickly catches up and manages to kill us and take the Boss, courtesy of Illidan solo diving and Uther randomly giving Zagara Divine Shield which does almost nothing. I manage to keep Tyrande (our fifth) alive with a Maw placement who suddenly chats a 'ty' and starts talking back to Uther and Illidan who blame everything on me and my friend and we lose the game shortly after. The most annoying thing is that whenever we did the right team thing (going for merc camps at the right time, turning in coins together with Tyrande) we get flamed for not being in the lane, and when Illidan dies for the tenth time by solo diving the enemy team it's also our fault. In one case I was unable to turn in coins for a while because the enemy team had an advantage and slowly stocked up 25 gems, which Illidan ofcourse ranted about. Whilst the enemy team at one point was taking mercs (which we knew thx to owl) I went in and sneaked out a gem exchange and got a wave in. Again, Illidan instantly flaming that I don't stick with the team even though he is just standing next to the core. This game can be so much fun when the team grasps the basics, but I swear some people are just playing it to flame others and nothing else, or they are playing single player. In a game a few hours ago we had the most horrible Hammer I have yet to see. Literally AVOIDED every team fight intentionally, claiming Hammer should only push towers. Was never with the team, avoided the Mines half the time to solo push towers (getting killed every single time) and literally bad mouthed anyone, even when I only stated that if she wants to push, not to do it alone. Even when our core was being attacked, Hammer was solo pushing towers in bottom. In the end she went 4-14 and had a grand total of 10k hero damage. Luckily most games are alright and a few are really good (if they aren't stomps) but every so often...I wonder why people are playing a team game. It's stories like this that make me wish someone famous and credible makes a video targetted to the really new players out there. This video would systematically address all of the bad things that these players do, why it's terrible and what they should be doing instead. If we had such a video, then we can keep pushing it until the information becomes the basic knowledge that everyone has. The problem with the content that is available now is that it is usually geared towards the informed audience. A new player can watch those videos and see examples of good-to-great play and decisions, but not understand why bad plays and decisions aren't made. | ||
Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On April 13 2015 07:06 kingjames01 wrote: It's stories like this that make me wish someone famous and credible makes a video targetted to the really new players out there. This video would systematically address all of the bad things that these players do, why it's terrible and what they should be doing instead. If we had such a video, then we can keep pushing it until the information becomes the basic knowledge that everyone has. The problem with the content that is available now is that it is usually geared towards the informed audience. A new player can watch those videos and see examples of good-to-great play and decisions, but not understand why bad plays and decisions aren't made. This is actually my next project, though it will be written (and I don't qualify as famous). | ||
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