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NoIntestines
United States35 Posts
There's some possible synergy with battlecries and deathrattles and such, but it's still taking a tempo hit and hoping your opponent plays into it. And I guess control decks could run it to get free copies of big stuff, but that would mean hanging on to Cairne, etc, until turn 9, which doesn't seem worth it. Also, if you have multiple minions die to an AoE spell, which one gets duplicated? I really wish Blizzard would print up a comprehensive rule set and iron this stuff out. | ||
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Doctor Faustus
United States0 Posts
On May 30 2014 03:38 Zenbrez wrote: Then maybe you should kill creatures with other creatures, like every other class. Instead of relying on insta-kill cards. What's with the personal attack? Sure I'm QQing a bit but it's not like I'm flaming you directly. Sheesh. | ||
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
On May 30 2014 04:46 Doctor Faustus wrote: What's with the personal attack? Sure I'm QQing a bit but it's not like I'm flaming you directly. Sheesh. Some people have a bizarre hatred of any class that plays differently from the normal "play minions along a normal mana curve while fighting for board control" playstyle--play Mage or Priest or any Miracle Deck, they hate it, play aggro and they hate it, play a big Combo deck and they hate it, etc. These people, however, have poor taste and lousy ideas, and should be ignored. | ||
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Glucose
United States1 Post
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On May 30 2014 05:09 Glucose wrote: I would think this works really with with early game minions -- like Mana Wyrm, and Bloodmage Thalnos. Thalnos especially. People rarely hard remove that since he has 1 health. Next round you can play +2 spell dmg and +2 more card draw. Seems pretty nice. Sounds nice, but in reality you're spending 2 + 3 + 2 + 2 = 9 mana to cycle 3 cards and maybe squeeze mild value out of the spell damage. My initial instinct is that the card combos well with kirin tor mage and sorcerer's apprentice, basically cards that greatly mitigate the tempo loss from playing the secret itself. | ||
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Fulla
United Kingdom519 Posts
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soverRR
Sweden348 Posts
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Crisco
1170 Posts
Empty Board: Turn 10 with Antonidas followed by Duplicate -> Short of a silence and ignoring the card until a new creature is dropped plenty of fireballs shall come | ||
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S1eth
Austria221 Posts
On May 30 2014 06:19 Crisco wrote: I could see it as a finisher: Empty Board: Turn 10 with Antonidas followed by Duplicate -> Short of a silence and ignoring the card until a new creature is dropped plenty of fireballs shall come If they kill your Antonidas, you can't ever replay him if you want to use one of your fireballs, though. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
are they kidding... this is insanely good mage giants / handmage incoming.. again you kill a giant, mage gets 2 more in his hand and probably at pretty cheap mana cost also since nerf, tinkmaster has been largely replaced by big game hunter, which still triggers the effect when it removes | ||
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AssumedNewb
France0 Posts
It obviously comboes with Kirin Tor Mage As anti aggro, Tazdingo + This secret may be efficient An important question is : will it trigger on tokens (Mirror Image, Gnoll from Hogger, ... ) ? Another is : will mage secrets create real doubt on what is the active secret ? If so it could be fun | ||
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The_Masked_Shrimp
425 Posts
Or turn 5 secret + turn 6 cairne, Or turn 7 secret + turn 8 ragnaros I like this secret because it's at LEAST a 0 for 1 in term of card advantage. It fits my playstyle since I don't care about tempo and mana curve/value. When I build a deck I only consider card advantage and how much 2 for 1 I can force. That's why I like priest so much with cabal shadow priest,shadow madness, thoughtsteal mind control | ||
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Lobotomist
United States1541 Posts
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
the one good thing i can think of is that it provides some immunity to board clear, but i dunno if that's worth a slot in your deck. | ||
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SLYvi
Brazil0 Posts
On May 30 2014 04:06 awesomoecalypse wrote: The more I think about it, I think we may see this in Aggro Mage primarily, comboed with Kirin Tor Mage to make it into free card draw. Play lots of 1 and 2 drops, then Kirin Tor+Duplicate, and you make it pretty easy to keep up the pressure really well, because the 2 cards it gives you will be cheap drops perfect for an aggro strategy.. I didnt think on that before. good point. Also, could that card make secretkeeper viable? | ||
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Came Norrection
Canada168 Posts
On May 30 2014 06:19 Crisco wrote: I could see it as a finisher: Empty Board: Turn 10 with Antonidas followed by Duplicate -> Short of a silence and ignoring the card until a new creature is dropped plenty of fireballs shall come Then they faceless and own you, antonidas is crappy because faceless gets so much more value off him since they have 5 mana to work with for spells afterward. | ||
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Elmo1191
Bulgaria0 Posts
On May 30 2014 06:54 figq wrote: wat are they kidding... this is insanely good mage giants / handmage incoming.. again you kill a giant, mage gets 2 more in his hand and probably at pretty cheap mana cost also since nerf, tinkmaster has been largely replaced by big game hunter, which still triggers the effect when it removes I didn't think of that. In a giants mage this could actually be pretty cool. I can imagine some sort of giants secrets mage deck making an appearance. I'm sure more ideas will flow as the patch comes out. And now that i've thought about it more, i think this card is another proof of my theory about blizzard's idea with all these cards. With all the new class cards they're trying to encourage the usage of other underused class cards and there are a lot of them. Right now i think the most underused cards mage has are the secrets. With this secret i think experimentation with secrets mages will be in full force, giants or aggro. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Honestly I don't think its that great, it is a 2 for 2 after all. | ||
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Sutty
0 Posts
The possibility is turn 7 leeroy, turn 8 leeroy+leeroy = 18 damage right there. Add this with fireballs, polymorphs and cheap silences to remove taunts, and you have plenty of damage possibility. 2 cards combo needed for 18 damage over turn 7 and 8. That is what would happen in constructed. Maybe some fancy Molten Giant and Taunt plays as well. Who knows? | ||
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Doc Daneeka
United States577 Posts
that's not to say this wouldn't be a good play in a deck that happens to have both this new card and leeroy, but i think the deck would have to be able to function without that combo going off. so what is the rest of the deck designed to do, and how is this card useable outside of that specific combo? i suppose it would have to be an aggro deck so you can duplicate cheap minions and keep the pressure up, and that deck could easily also run leeroy... but what two cards did you take out for the two duplicates, and is the off chance of wrecking the opponent with this combo better than those two cards? that's not a rhetorical question, by the way, i'm genuinely curious. as with all these cards we won't know for sure until people have a chance to actually play them. | ||
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