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weikor
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria580 Posts
June 01 2014 17:29 GMT
#121
The problem with hex or polymorph is, you dont know what secret your opponent has put down and you cant always check for everything either.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
June 02 2014 00:42 GMT
#122
On June 02 2014 02:29 weikor wrote:
The problem with hex or polymorph is, you dont know what secret your opponent has put down and you cant always check for everything either.


Theres no point trying to play around the card with hex and polymorph anyways. Which scenario is worse: Your opponent getting two additional loot hoarders, or not having a solution for their Antonidas? Your decision making doesn't change.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
June 02 2014 02:46 GMT
#123
only if it duplicated spells...
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Akathla
Profile Joined June 2014
United States0 Posts
June 03 2014 10:35 GMT
#124
A lot of good comments here. I like the card but with any you have to decide what has to go, to stick this in. I see this card being very useful in the mage deck that I am currently climbing the ladder with. Spells/stalls/iceblocks ect.. the three mana is the weakness like all mage secrets.

remember, there is a counter to whatever YOU are playing and SOMEONE is playing it
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
June 03 2014 17:35 GMT
#125
What if duplicate made the card that goes back into your hand cost one less but do one less of everything? e.g., Malygos 3/11 4 spell damage 8 mana. It would go along with the idea that copies of things aren't always like the original (or copies of copies :p). Plus in the example given, Malygos + arcane explosion ftw?
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
June 03 2014 22:42 GMT
#126
I wonder, if this summoned two copies of the destroyed creature, rather than put them in your hand, would that too big a tempo swing?
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S1eth
Profile Joined November 2011
Austria221 Posts
June 03 2014 23:19 GMT
#127
On June 04 2014 07:42 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I wonder, if this summoned two copies of the destroyed creature, rather than put them in your hand, would that too big a tempo swing?

It would be incredibly overpowered.
You pay 5 mana to copy a minion (Faceless Manipulator)
this would be 3 mana for 2 Faceless Manipulators.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 04 2014 01:22 GMT
#128
Leeeeeeroy + Duplicate turn 7, Double Leeeeeeroy on turn 8? :D
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awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
June 04 2014 02:51 GMT
#129
On June 04 2014 08:19 S1eth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2014 07:42 awesomoecalypse wrote:
I wonder, if this summoned two copies of the destroyed creature, rather than put them in your hand, would that too big a tempo swing?

It would be incredibly overpowered.
You pay 5 mana to copy a minion (Faceless Manipulator)
this would be 3 mana for 2 Faceless Manipulators.


Well, not necessarily. Faceless Manipulator is targeted, so it always copies the best minion on the board immediately. This would copy a minion effectively of your opponent's choosing, and only when they decide to trigger it.
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pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
June 04 2014 04:29 GMT
#130
I see someone said secret is not working on player turn. Is it true? so it will not work with my charge minion then? TT
fenson
Profile Joined February 2014
0 Posts
June 06 2014 16:38 GMT
#131
Duplicate+Mukla = Endless bananas
Hryul
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
June 06 2014 17:58 GMT
#132
On June 04 2014 13:29 pedduck wrote:
I see someone said secret is not working on player turn. Is it true? so it will not work with my charge minion then? TT

no it won't. blizzard changed it for exactly that reason, namely that they can introduce more powerful secrets.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
June 06 2014 18:31 GMT
#133
Weak as shit, spells are meant to swing tempo back into your favor. Spells that only work when you're already ahead are weak and pointless as you're already winning.
CreareCopy
Profile Joined July 2014
Norway0 Posts
July 30 2014 00:28 GMT
#134
Duplicate worked great in a Secret Mage deck so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3tdR6vrsEw&feature=youtu.be
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
July 30 2014 07:10 GMT
#135
On July 30 2014 09:28 CreareCopy wrote:
Duplicate worked great in a Secret Mage deck so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn-Gbu_8_eg


You realise that dupicate had exactly ZERO effect on that game. You never even played the two Minions you got. EVERY other secret would have been better in that sutuation....
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 30 2014 08:16 GMT
#136
No offense but posting a game from rank 15 doesn't really demonstrate much. You can pretty much use any cards/decks at these ranks and see success.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
July 30 2014 08:38 GMT
#137
Duplicate comboes so well with Mad Scientist..
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figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 09:51:31
July 30 2014 09:48 GMT
#138
Duplicate allows you to get 2 of the same legendary card in hand, even though you are limited to 1 of it in the deck.

Of course, for board-presence strong legendaries, you could already duplicate them with Faceless. However, Faceless doesn't trigger battlecries. So essentially, if there are legendaries with really strong battlecries (more important than their body), then Duplicate > Faceless. I wonder if we will see such battlecry-heavy legendaries in the future.

edit: ah well, pandas can bounce them back to hand just as well..
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Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-30 09:55:29
July 30 2014 09:54 GMT
#139
The 3 mana cost stops you getting anything really big though. In order to duplicate something 8 mana or more, you'd need to have duplicate in play from the turn before, and to avoid it being wasted, your board would need to be empty.

This means it's too slow to use that way.

Best case for duplicate will be Azure Drakes or similar I guess.
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Plaid_Dragon
Profile Joined March 2014
United States0 Posts
July 30 2014 14:12 GMT
#140
On July 30 2014 17:16 Nekovivie wrote:
No offense but posting a game from rank 15 doesn't really demonstrate much. You can pretty much use any cards/decks at these ranks and see success.


Careful. Even suggesting that people's opinions and mindsets are irrelevant based on their rank is a slippery slope.
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