might be good with some carddraw cards if you can get the combo off.
you cant play this + rag for example at the same turn, so its worthless for really powerfull stuff.
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furo
Germany449 Posts
might be good with some carddraw cards if you can get the combo off. you cant play this + rag for example at the same turn, so its worthless for really powerfull stuff. | ||
S1eth
Austria221 Posts
On May 30 2014 00:42 ratbert wrote: i dont think you'll end up with double rag, double archmage or whatever in your hand a lot of the time. how often do these get hard removed as opposed to transformed into something else (Polymorph, Hex) and then killed? you'll be more likely to end up with 2 Sheep or 2 Frogs in your hand ![]() The Duplicate was actually Counterspell. Now what? | ||
DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
On May 30 2014 00:22 Sumadin wrote: Just remember that secrets don't work on your own turn anymore. So I doupt it will be as potent as those combos of other classes. I personally think this will be strongest in secret mage decks. Really good value with Kirin Tor Mage while also not being too slow with that card. Play Leeory.Opponent kills him next turn and now you have two Leeroys on your turn.Seems like a decent play. Anyway,i don't know how good this card is gonna be overall.I guess it would be great to have 4 Water Elementals in your deck instead of 2 but you might lose tempo trying to get value out of this card.It's similar to the new Rogue card in that regard. I'm sure we'll see some new mage decks and also seems like a solid card in arena. | ||
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
On May 30 2014 00:48 furo wrote: seems weak since activated on enemies turn only and tempoloss. might be good with some carddraw cards if you can get the combo off. you cant play this + rag for example at the same turn, so its worthless for really powerfull stuff. You can combo it with Antonidas. Which would be lousy vs Mage or Shaman due to poly/hex, but in every other control matchup would pretty much just win you the game. However, a big turn 10 play is just really slow in the current meta...I expect that if it gets used, its primary value will be in huge tempo swings when comboed with kirin tor mage on turn 3 (or turn 2 with the coin). | ||
RoranRock
France294 Posts
And this is very card efficiant in arena, always 1 card played, 2 earned. So more card adventage for the OP Arena class :/ | ||
ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
On May 30 2014 00:46 Mortal wrote: Show nested quote + On May 30 2014 00:42 ratbert wrote: i dont think you'll end up with double rag, double archmage or whatever in your hand a lot of the time. how often do these get hard removed as opposed to transformed into something else (Polymorph, Hex) and then killed? you'll be more likely to end up with 2 Sheep or 2 Frogs in your hand ![]() you're correct if you're playing against one of those 2 classes. there are, however, 7 others without the ability to cheek the mechanic in this way. well, as always theres plenty of ways imaginable to play around a secret (as it should be) another example: play leeroy and kill a whelp first with your hero abilty or whatever. we'll see how practical the secret and it's counters are ![]() | ||
ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
On May 30 2014 00:48 S1eth wrote: Show nested quote + On May 30 2014 00:42 ratbert wrote: i dont think you'll end up with double rag, double archmage or whatever in your hand a lot of the time. how often do these get hard removed as opposed to transformed into something else (Polymorph, Hex) and then killed? you'll be more likely to end up with 2 Sheep or 2 Frogs in your hand ![]() The Duplicate was actually Counterspell. Now what? shaman has pretty good low cost spells to test for counterspell and spellbender dude ![]() e: so does mage. and sometimes you even have the Coin to test.... | ||
GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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BlacKcuD
Germany107 Posts
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S1eth
Austria221 Posts
On May 30 2014 00:50 Nekovivie wrote: Wonder how it will handle multiple death situations like flamestrike. Probably just totally fucking random like Syl v Syl. The same way Redemption works. On May 30 2014 00:55 GoSuChicken wrote: Still seems better than the Paladin one to be honest Paladin secret is a flame imp without the battlecry. I don't know why people underestimate this card so much. | ||
GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
This just reminded me of why I do not play Hearthstone in German. The translations just sound so weird... | ||
Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On May 30 2014 01:00 S1eth wrote: Show nested quote + On May 30 2014 00:50 Nekovivie wrote: Wonder how it will handle multiple death situations like flamestrike. Probably just totally fucking random like Syl v Syl. The same way Redemption works. Which is how? | ||
DifuntO
Greece2376 Posts
On May 30 2014 01:00 S1eth wrote: Show nested quote + On May 30 2014 00:50 Nekovivie wrote: Wonder how it will handle multiple death situations like flamestrike. Probably just totally fucking random like Syl v Syl. The same way Redemption works. How does Redemption work? I never understood that. | ||
S1eth
Austria221 Posts
On May 30 2014 01:01 Nekovivie wrote: Show nested quote + On May 30 2014 01:00 S1eth wrote: On May 30 2014 00:50 Nekovivie wrote: Wonder how it will handle multiple death situations like flamestrike. Probably just totally fucking random like Syl v Syl. The same way Redemption works. Which is how? http://www.liquidhearth.com/forum/hearthstone/381-myth-busted-redemption-revive-minion-randomly | ||
ratbert
Germany1041 Posts
On May 30 2014 01:01 GoSuChicken wrote: This just reminded me of why I do not play Hearthstone in German. The translations just sound so weird... "Diener" ... *shudders* | ||
Anthimox
Greece0 Posts
I'm trying to see the deck that will use it. A slow control mage usually has plenty of cards in hand and no time to play them all. I don't think a control mage will want to use 3 mana for a secret for a a chance to take 2 minion cards in his hand. I don't know if somehow aggro mage could use the card. I could see them play one, so that late game wolfriders and arcance golems can be a serious threat. Overall I believe the guys at Hearthstone are doing a great job. Being a top Mtg player helps me evaluate cards in other card games pretty easily. But this time I really can't possibly tell if some Naxxramas cards are playable. | ||
weikor
Austria580 Posts
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awesomoecalypse
United States2235 Posts
If Etheral Arcanist was a 4/4, I think running a secrets deck would be way more viable. | ||
LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On May 30 2014 01:10 weikor wrote: turn 3 secret, turn 4 leeroy. Seems strong no? So you waste turn 3 and use fireball in turn 4 while they put up harvest golem and senjin. | ||
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