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On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew...
If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are.
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On July 25 2012 03:01 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:57 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, but if your dad knew it was a fight to the death, he COULD have gone for the eyes/nose/ears, which cause immense pain to the dog. As long as he held on to your dad's arm, even while shaking, going for the eyes is really easy.
Are you seriously saying that if nobody was around and the dog was really going for the kill, your dad would have died that night? I think not. I don't think you understand how strong German Shepard's are. I definitely think that if my dad had gotten closer to the dog, it would have gone for his throat and probably gotten to it as well. People don't realize what dogs are capable of. You guys are thinking of lap dogs that stay in the house and are best friends with people. Look at any dog on the vicious dog list and they will be able to kill most humans.
able to kill msot humans certainly, noones saying a dog is incapable of killing a human
but put an average man in a cage with a dog, have him come in prepared to fight the dog and thats a different story
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On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are.
No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training.
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On July 24 2012 22:01 Cel.erity wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2012 19:45 sereniity wrote:On July 22 2012 23:38 gtrsrs wrote:
this topic is hiarious
it reminds me of all the times i've seen police release a dog on someone who is disorderly or fleeing, and then the person - who is of average weight and height - not only doesn't run from the dog, but turns around on the spot and kills it before escaping the police
oh wait no, that has not and will not ever happen. anyone who voted human is DELUSIONAL
the only way you would have ANY chance against any wild animal is with protective covering or a weapon. in a skin versus fur matchup, human stands 0 chance against nearly any wild creature except maybe a grape You sure look silly now... One dog was stabbed, another was thrown into traffic, a third was choked by his collar. These are outside of the scenario parameters. In the fourth scenario, it was a bar fight that the cops were trying to break up. This is a confusing situation and not really applicable to a 1v1 fight. The last one seems legit, it was man vs dog, but the man looks rather large and he's kind of merciless since he also shot two people. Additionally, the dog was not fighting for his life, but the criminal was fighting for his freedom.
The point is that you should never underestimate someone whose life is on the line. Practically every single person would go to ridiculous ends to survive. I've said it before but you should never underestimate a grown person, man or woman, if they are full of adrenaline. Humans are capable of some crazy stuff when instinct takes over.
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On July 25 2012 03:04 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:01 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, but if your dad knew it was a fight to the death, he COULD have gone for the eyes/nose/ears, which cause immense pain to the dog. As long as he held on to your dad's arm, even while shaking, going for the eyes is really easy.
Are you seriously saying that if nobody was around and the dog was really going for the kill, your dad would have died that night? I think not. I don't think you understand how strong German Shepard's are. I definitely think that if my dad had gotten closer to the dog, it would have gone for his throat and probably gotten to it as well. People don't realize what dogs are capable of. You guys are thinking of lap dogs that stay in the house and are best friends with people. Look at any dog on the vicious dog list and they will be able to kill most humans. able to kill msot humans certainly, noones saying a dog is incapable of killing a human but put an average man in a cage with a dog, have him come in prepared to fight the dog and thats a different story
I don't see how the surroundings change anything. So the person can get into the right state of mind? If you're being attacked by a dog, it doesn't matter where you are. The situation won't change, fight the dog or get mauled. Either way, I see the dog winning in most cases.
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On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training.
thats skill VS unskilled
take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins?
an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant
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On July 25 2012 03:07 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training. thats skill VS unskilled take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins? an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant
I understand that when both parties have even fighting experience it does make a difference... I already said that.
In my eyes, a dog would fall under the skilled category... How often do average people just shadow box or punch shit for fun or just to do it? Not that often. How often does a dog chew and bite shit? All the damn time, their whole life is based around their jaws.
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you could easily get the dog into a headlock after sustaining a couple bites to the leg/arms.
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On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training.
Ok, Take a 100 pound professional boxer against a 300 pound professional bodybuilder with no training. Who wins? Yes, there are some extremes where weight doesnt matter but usually when two fighters of the same fighting skill are pitted against each other,the determining factor is usually weight.
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On July 25 2012 03:11 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:07 Forikorder wrote:On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training. thats skill VS unskilled take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins? an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant I understand that when both parties have even fighting experience it does make a difference... I already said that. In my eyes, a dog would fall under the skilled category... How often do average people just shadow box or punch shit for fun or just to do it? Not that often. How often does a dog chew and bite shit? All the damn time, their whole life is based around their jaws.
theres also the height difference, unless the dog goes for the leg its gonna be awkward, if you go into it prepared to get hurt then the dogs only going to get maybe one goot bite then you can counter
as soon as you get a grip on the dog you win
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On July 25 2012 03:01 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 02:57 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, but if your dad knew it was a fight to the death, he COULD have gone for the eyes/nose/ears, which cause immense pain to the dog. As long as he held on to your dad's arm, even while shaking, going for the eyes is really easy.
Are you seriously saying that if nobody was around and the dog was really going for the kill, your dad would have died that night? I think not. I don't think you understand how strong German Shepard's are. I definitely think that if my dad had gotten closer to the dog, it would have gone for his throat and probably gotten to it as well. People don't realize what dogs are capable of. You guys are thinking of lap dogs that stay in the house and are best friends with people. Look at any dog on the vicious dog list and they will be able to kill most humans.
And when you think of a human you think of a guy with a laptop drinking his coffee not the people who were hunting mammoths with spears. You are underestimating adrenaline and what people can do in life-or-death situations.
Yes, in your case the dog would have probably gone for the throat BUT your dad was not expecting a fight. In our scenario, the man goes in KNOWING that it's do or die.
Meh, people who are voting for the dog are ones that owned dogs and know they can be brutally strong, but so can people if it comes down to it. Think of it this way: what would you be willing to do to survive?
That's right. Everything.
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On July 25 2012 03:33 CubEdIn wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:01 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, but if your dad knew it was a fight to the death, he COULD have gone for the eyes/nose/ears, which cause immense pain to the dog. As long as he held on to your dad's arm, even while shaking, going for the eyes is really easy.
Are you seriously saying that if nobody was around and the dog was really going for the kill, your dad would have died that night? I think not. I don't think you understand how strong German Shepard's are. I definitely think that if my dad had gotten closer to the dog, it would have gone for his throat and probably gotten to it as well. People don't realize what dogs are capable of. You guys are thinking of lap dogs that stay in the house and are best friends with people. Look at any dog on the vicious dog list and they will be able to kill most humans. And when you think of a human you think of a guy with a laptop drinking his coffee not the people who were hunting mammoths with spears. You are underestimating adrenaline and what people can do in life-or-death situations. Yes, in your case the dog would have probably gone for the throat BUT your dad was not expecting a fight. In our scenario, the man goes in KNOWING that it's do or die. Meh, people who are voting for the dog are ones that owned dogs and know they can be brutally strong, but so can people if it comes down to it. Think of it this way: what would you be willing to do to survive? That's right. Everything.
Ok, good point, I'll give you that. But we aren't the people that we used to be back when we hunted with spears. Dogs are closer to what they used to be than we are.
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People seem to be assuming that Dog = Wolf when that really is not the case.
Wolves are cold calculating killers, they hunt to survive. A Wolf will know to go for the killing blow... attack retreat, attack retreat, wearing you down until they get a shot at the jugular. A dog? He will most likely attack and latch onto the first thing that enters his mouth making it extremely easy to get an advantageous position so long as you are prepared for the bite and the pain.
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On July 25 2012 03:11 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:07 Forikorder wrote:On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training. thats skill VS unskilled take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins? an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant I understand that when both parties have even fighting experience it does make a difference... I already said that. In my eyes, a dog would fall under the skilled category... How often do average people just shadow box or punch shit for fun or just to do it? Not that often. How often does a dog chew and bite shit? All the damn time, their whole life is based around their jaws.
A 100 pound average guy against a 200 pound average guy, who would you bet on?
Weight is a clear concern when both are equally skilled or in my example equally unskilled as most are.
Also I vote person, since I have witnessed a shepard attacking a guy, it did not end the shepperds way. It jumped him, he immediatly slung his wrist area(?) (the place between elbow and hand, dunno name), got bit but it didn't hold on too hard apparently as he right after slammed it into the ground and then held it down for a few sec before he got help with it.
Personally though I would rip his eyeballs out, however I have had some martial training (no black belt jackie chan stuff though).
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I don't think it is that clear cut. A lot of dogs go straight for your face and people aren't always the greatest at stopping that. If your face gets torn up right out of the gate you are probably going to lose.
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On July 25 2012 04:11 NTTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:11 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:07 Forikorder wrote:On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training. thats skill VS unskilled take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins? an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant I understand that when both parties have even fighting experience it does make a difference... I already said that. In my eyes, a dog would fall under the skilled category... How often do average people just shadow box or punch shit for fun or just to do it? Not that often. How often does a dog chew and bite shit? All the damn time, their whole life is based around their jaws. A 100 pound average guy against a 200 pound average guy, who would you bet on? Weight is a clear concern when both are equally skilled or in my example equally unskilled as most are. Also I vote person, since I have witnessed a shepard attacking a guy, it did not end the shepperds way. It jumped him, he immediatly slung his wrist area(?) (the place between elbow and hand, dunno name), got bit but it didn't hold on too hard apparently as he right after slammed it into the ground and then held it down for a few sec before he got help with it. Personally though I would rip his eyeballs out, however I have had some martial training (no black belt jackie chan stuff though).
That would be the forearm -_-
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On July 25 2012 04:11 NTTemplar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 03:11 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:07 Forikorder wrote:On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training. thats skill VS unskilled take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins? an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant I understand that when both parties have even fighting experience it does make a difference... I already said that. In my eyes, a dog would fall under the skilled category... How often do average people just shadow box or punch shit for fun or just to do it? Not that often. How often does a dog chew and bite shit? All the damn time, their whole life is based around their jaws. A 100 pound average guy against a 200 pound average guy, who would you bet on? Weight is a clear concern when both are equally skilled or in my example equally unskilled as most are. Also I vote person, since I have witnessed a shepard attacking a guy, it did not end the shepperds way. It jumped him, he immediatly slung his wrist area(?) (the place between elbow and hand, dunno name), got bit but it didn't hold on too hard apparently as he right after slammed it into the ground and then held it down for a few sec before he got help with it. Personally though I would rip his eyeballs out, however I have had some martial training (no black belt jackie chan stuff though).
Why would I compare that when we aren't talking about human on human fights... Would you pick a 100 pound chimp or gorilla or would you pick a 300 pound professional athlete? If you picked the 300 pound human, you would watch him get his eyes, ears, lips, fingers and genitals ripped off.
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On July 25 2012 04:03 Dosey wrote:
People seem to be assuming that Dog = Wolf when that really is not the case.
Wolves are cold calculating killers, they hunt to survive. A Wolf will know to go for the killing blow... attack retreat, attack retreat, wearing you down until they get a shot at the jugular. A dog? He will most likely attack and latch onto the first thing that enters his mouth making it extremely easy to get an advantageous position so long as you are prepared for the bite and the pain.
Oh man not sure if this has been linked before but this thread reminds me of
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=101891
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On July 25 2012 06:06 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On July 25 2012 04:11 NTTemplar wrote:On July 25 2012 03:11 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:07 Forikorder wrote:On July 25 2012 03:05 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 03:01 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:57 GreEny K wrote:On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time. And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit. You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about. That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew... If you were betting on a fight against two untrained people. One was 100 pounds and the other was 200 pounds. Who would you bet on? Weight is ALWAYS a factor in a fight no matter how trained the fighters are. No it isn't... I would take a 130 pound professional boxer over a 200 pound average semi in-shape person without training. thats skill VS unskilled take 2 boxers, equal skill, give one a 70 pund advantage who wins? an ant, no matter how skilled, cant beat an elephant I understand that when both parties have even fighting experience it does make a difference... I already said that. In my eyes, a dog would fall under the skilled category... How often do average people just shadow box or punch shit for fun or just to do it? Not that often. How often does a dog chew and bite shit? All the damn time, their whole life is based around their jaws. A 100 pound average guy against a 200 pound average guy, who would you bet on? Weight is a clear concern when both are equally skilled or in my example equally unskilled as most are. Also I vote person, since I have witnessed a shepard attacking a guy, it did not end the shepperds way. It jumped him, he immediatly slung his wrist area(?) (the place between elbow and hand, dunno name), got bit but it didn't hold on too hard apparently as he right after slammed it into the ground and then held it down for a few sec before he got help with it. Personally though I would rip his eyeballs out, however I have had some martial training (no black belt jackie chan stuff though). Why would I compare that when we aren't talking about human on human fights... Would you pick a 100 pound chimp or gorilla or would you pick a 300 pound professional athlete? If you picked the 300 pound human, you would watch him get his eyes, ears, lips, fingers and genitals ripped off.
german shephards arent primates
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It depends on the fighting experience of the person. Using your legs as your main leverage all you need to do is ensure the dog goes underneath you and as soon as it does, you can get on top and use that position to incapacitate the dawg.
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EPT
