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WaesumNinja
Profile Joined February 2012
210 Posts
July 24 2012 16:17 GMT
#1161
On July 24 2012 21:06 padfoota wrote:
However - lets say an average sized WILD MAN vs average sized WILD DOG


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Bring it on, doggie.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-24 16:29:15
July 24 2012 16:28 GMT
#1162
Humans are apex predators, not contest there. Unless it's a pack of dogs, of course.
We were the ones who domesticated them, after all.
The only argument is based on the average guy which is a silly argument since nobody knows what the average guy is or what he's capable of in life or death situations.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
July 24 2012 16:30 GMT
#1163
So many people arguing for the dog in this thread. If you seriously think a dog would win, hands down, maybe that should be a wake up call to get outside and get some exercise. I don't care how big or strong the dog is, I would win 10/10 times "in a fight."
"Science has so well established that the preborn baby in the womb is a living human being that most pro-choice activists have conceded the point. ..since the abortion proponents have lost the science argument, they are now advocating an existential one."
La1
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom659 Posts
July 24 2012 16:38 GMT
#1164
this is the best thread ever I personally think a human could win.. most humans may freeze up and get owned but if the human knew the fight was comming he could win.. i doubt they would get out in tact though..
pff
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
July 24 2012 17:10 GMT
#1165
On July 25 2012 01:30 danl9rm wrote:
So many people arguing for the dog in this thread. If you seriously think a dog would win, hands down, maybe that should be a wake up call to get outside and get some exercise. I don't care how big or strong the dog is, I would win 10/10 times "in a fight."


Lol, come on. If you think all it takes is 'being in shape', you are mistaken. Against an average dog, sure. Not against an attack dog, or a brutally large/aggressive dog. It doesn't matter how 'big & fit' you are. What's especially funny is you blame people with other opinions on...their lack of exercise? I've been an athlete all my life, bench around 300, yet I'd never dream of taking on...say...a Mastiff/Shepherd mix weighing around 190lbs, bred to attack, and abused all its life, without any weapons. That's just crazy talk. Or maybe you just don't know much at all about dogs, or have read too many outrageous stories/watched too many movies.

Either way for your own good you shouldn't be complacent around the wrong type of dog. For your own good
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
July 24 2012 17:21 GMT
#1166
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.
"let your freak flag fly"
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
July 24 2012 17:42 GMT
#1167
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 24 2012 17:44 GMT
#1168
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

can you give more details? i doubt you seriously fight with your dad
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
July 24 2012 17:45 GMT
#1169
On July 25 2012 02:44 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

can you give more details? i doubt you seriously fight with your dad


It's not my biological father. Step dad. Hates me. Only time I go to visit my old house is when he's not home. Why the fuck would I go into personal details with people I don't know? I know plenty of people who have gotten into fist fights with their parents. It's definitely not that rare.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1170
On July 25 2012 02:45 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:44 Forikorder wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

can you give more details? i doubt you seriously fight with your dad


It's not my biological father. Step dad. Hates me. Only time I go to visit my old house is when he's not home. Why the fuck would I go into personal details with people I don't know? I know plenty of people who have gotten into fist fights with their parents. It's definitely not that rare.

i didnt say personal details bud i was more interested in like is it a playfight or do one of you wind up in the hospital

because if hes not seriously trying to hurt you then wieght doesnt matter
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25550 Posts
July 24 2012 17:49 GMT
#1171
On July 25 2012 02:45 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:44 Forikorder wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

can you give more details? i doubt you seriously fight with your dad


It's not my biological father. Step dad. Hates me. Only time I go to visit my old house is when he's not home. Why the fuck would I go into personal details with people I don't know? I know plenty of people who have gotten into fist fights with their parents. It's definitely not that rare.


I mean, I'm assuming you weren't fighting to the death with him with no retreat allowed... like, part of fighting is just keeping yourself in a high energy state and not giving up. If you fought him until he was unconscious with both of you fighting for your lives, sure, you beat a bigger guy. But on the other hand, dogs don't have like hands and shit. Every human limb is a potential weapon, whereas a dog has only one mouth.
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Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
July 24 2012 17:51 GMT
#1172
Too many variables, but average human would win against average dog. Dog population includes a lot of collies, poodles etc. only the very top of the dog population would have a chance against an adult male.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
July 24 2012 17:52 GMT
#1173
On July 25 2012 02:51 Zahir wrote:
Too many variables, but average human would win against average dog. Dog population includes a lot of collies, poodles etc. only the very top of the dog population would have a chance against an adult male.

its about specific dog, german sheperd
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 24 2012 17:54 GMT
#1174
On July 25 2012 02:10 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 01:30 danl9rm wrote:
So many people arguing for the dog in this thread. If you seriously think a dog would win, hands down, maybe that should be a wake up call to get outside and get some exercise. I don't care how big or strong the dog is, I would win 10/10 times "in a fight."


Lol, come on. If you think all it takes is 'being in shape', you are mistaken. Against an average dog, sure. Not against an attack dog, or a brutally large/aggressive dog. It doesn't matter how 'big & fit' you are. What's especially funny is you blame people with other opinions on...their lack of exercise? I've been an athlete all my life, bench around 300, yet I'd never dream of taking on...say...a Mastiff/Shepherd mix weighing around 190lbs, bred to attack, and abused all its life, without any weapons. That's just crazy talk. Or maybe you just don't know much at all about dogs, or have read too many outrageous stories/watched too many movies.

Either way for your own good you shouldn't be complacent around the wrong type of dog. For your own good


I completely agree. I've played sports and ran my whole life, I would never dream of fighting a decent sized dog... You think a dog can't take a kick from a human? That's funny, considering their bones and skull are way harder than a humans. And I like how a German Shepard was picked as the dog and people think that makes it easier. Those dogs are on the vicious dog list people, just because they don't look mean doesn't mean they can't rip your face off.

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We had a German Shepard when I was a kid. He wasn't a large dog, just average sized. My dad came home late one night and wanted to check on the dog (he stayed in a dog house outside our house). Well, the dog was not in a playful mood and bit my dad on the hand. My dad, at the time, was in peak physical condition and a pretty strong guy with large hands. He tried punching the dog in the face, neck and body but nothing worked; if anything it just pissed off the dog more. My uncle had to grab a log of wood and hit the dog on the head, even this was just enough to stun him, make him let go of my dad and shake his head. The next day the dog was fine, but my dads hand was completely shredded.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
July 24 2012 17:55 GMT
#1175
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.
"let your freak flag fly"
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
July 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#1176
Yeah, but if your dad knew it was a fight to the death, he COULD have gone for the eyes/nose/ears, which cause immense pain to the dog. As long as he held on to your dad's arm, even while shaking, going for the eyes is really easy.

Are you seriously saying that if nobody was around and the dog was really going for the kill, your dad would have died that night? I think not.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
Xxazn4lyfe51xX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States976 Posts
July 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#1177
On July 25 2012 02:49 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:45 Infernal_dream wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:44 Forikorder wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

can you give more details? i doubt you seriously fight with your dad


It's not my biological father. Step dad. Hates me. Only time I go to visit my old house is when he's not home. Why the fuck would I go into personal details with people I don't know? I know plenty of people who have gotten into fist fights with their parents. It's definitely not that rare.


I mean, I'm assuming you weren't fighting to the death with him with no retreat allowed... like, part of fighting is just keeping yourself in a high energy state and not giving up. If you fought him until he was unconscious with both of you fighting for your lives, sure, you beat a bigger guy. But on the other hand, dogs don't have like hands and shit. Every human limb is a potential weapon, whereas a dog has only one mouth.


A dog's teeth are also a better weapon than human limbs though, even though they might have only one. For example, you're fighting a guy who has a dagger. Hypothetically speaking, let's say he won't attack you with any part of his body other than the dagger he holds. Would you be confident that you would win against him?

Now I'm not saying that I believe that a dog would always win against a human. I think that it would probably depend a bit. I'm just saying to not underestimate a dog.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 24 2012 17:57 GMT
#1178
On July 25 2012 02:55 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 02:42 Infernal_dream wrote:
On July 25 2012 02:21 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
A german sheperd weighs anywhere from 65-85 pounds. The average man weighs anywhere from 160-200 pounds. Do you really think an animal that weighs almost less then half as a human will win in a fight to the death? Get real. The human would win more then 80% of the time.


And you're basing this purely off of weight? I'm 6'0 and only weigh 130 lbs. My dad is 6'5 230 lbs. I've whooped his ass more than once in a fight. Weight doesn't mean shit.

You're right.Weight doesnt mean shit in a fight. That's why Martial arts arn't based on weight classes. There is no such thing as the lightweight, middleweight, or heavyweight classes. Fighters never get penalized in sanctioned bouts for coming into weighinss overweight because weight doesnt give you an advantage in a fight. You don't have any idea what you're talking about.


That's for people who have trained their whole lives for fighting... In that case it does mean something, but considering average people... I don't think so. Otherwise I should have lost every fight I have been in, I was 5'6" in 10th grade. Luckily I grew...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
July 24 2012 17:58 GMT
#1179
crocodile
fucking owns
dogs regarding bite force

and the guy didnt even lose his arm lolol
a god would have no chance
oh funny typo
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 24 2012 18:01 GMT
#1180
On July 25 2012 02:57 CubEdIn wrote:
Yeah, but if your dad knew it was a fight to the death, he COULD have gone for the eyes/nose/ears, which cause immense pain to the dog. As long as he held on to your dad's arm, even while shaking, going for the eyes is really easy.

Are you seriously saying that if nobody was around and the dog was really going for the kill, your dad would have died that night? I think not.


I don't think you understand how strong German Shepard's are. I definitely think that if my dad had gotten closer to the dog, it would have gone for his throat and probably gotten to it as well.

People don't realize what dogs are capable of. You guys are thinking of lap dogs that stay in the house and are best friends with people.

Look at any dog on the vicious dog list and they will be able to kill most humans.
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