EPT[Poll] Dog vs. Human - Page 62
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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Tewks44
United States2032 Posts
On July 26 2012 15:46 CubEdIn wrote: Again, I feel like I have to ask, even if it wouldn't let go so fast, do you imagine that there would be ANY way that that dog could kill you? As I said, I've been attacked too, twice even, one time I reacted the other time I did not, but neither time did I actually feel like I'm seriously overpowered and felt my life being threatened. well, dogs are genetically engineered, in a sense, not to kill humans. If you were attacked by a wild dog, this instinct would obviously be watered down, but your standard house pet dog will generally attack to establish dominance, not to kill. It's simple darwinism. When dogs were integrating with humans thousands of years ago, the violent ones that killed humans were killed themselves, or at least run off from the pack to die in the wild. Therefore a dog generally won't try to attack for the kill. If there was a hypothetical, no holes barred fight though, I've got to give it to the dog. | ||
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erlaiys
Estonia46 Posts
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M4nkind
Lithuania178 Posts
I have idea of using my reproductive organ as a bait. In case dog grabs it I wold grab him by the belly lift him up and do powerslam - head to the ground - gg again. I win 2-0. | ||
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zedrOne
France471 Posts
otherwise this question should have been posted on the dogternet, on a dogforum, and dog voting and arguing about killing human. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On July 26 2012 08:37 CubEdIn wrote: As I said, it's easy to choose a side when not much is at stake. But you would not bet your life the dog wins. When someone is stepping in, he literally bets his life he will win, the dog isn't capable of rational thought, so it would only make sense that whoever votes for the dog would have their life at stake too if the dog loses. And sure there will be very few people willing to do it, unless stakes are really high (at least a few hundred thousands I assume), because they are risking their lives after all. This is the only aspect of the discussion that bothers me, people don't seem to realize that the human will be very... animal-like in a fight like this. I'm not saying that humans can't get crazy when they are forced to. But as you said "people don't seem to realize that human will be very... animal--like in a fight like this", you would have to bring that out in someone. A dog is way closer to that state of mind at any given time. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On July 26 2012 16:22 Tewks44 wrote: well, dogs are genetically engineered, in a sense, not to kill humans. If you were attacked by a wild dog, this instinct would obviously be watered down, but your standard house pet dog will generally attack to establish dominance, not to kill. It's simple darwinism. When dogs were integrating with humans thousands of years ago, the violent ones that killed humans were killed themselves, or at least run off from the pack to die in the wild. Therefore a dog generally won't try to attack for the kill. If there was a hypothetical, no holes barred fight though, I've got to give it to the dog. Emphasis added. The term is actually "no holds barred", as in all wrestling holds (including potentially dangerous joint locks, chokes, and neck cranks) are permitted. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall, being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds. Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat. A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it. Yeah. Have fun fighting that. source: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2/can-a-90-lb-chimp-clobber-a-full-grown-man | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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darthfoley
United States8003 Posts
On July 26 2012 21:12 M4nkind wrote: if I would be naked alone in the room with a dog and he would attack me, my adrenaline would be pumping i would feel no fear and my strength would increase 4x or 2x least. Knee to the head = gg dog. I have idea of using my reproductive organ as a bait. In case dog grabs it I wold grab him by the belly lift him up and do powerslam - head to the ground - gg again. I win 2-0. lol you have balls (haha) to try that | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Get on top of the dog, GG. I'm not specially tall or fat and I still weight like more than double an average dog lol. | ||
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GoldenH
1115 Posts
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
On July 31 2012 22:26 Slayer91 wrote: How can chimps with a similar physiology achieve such strength? They simply have longer and denser muscle fascicles. Also, most of their muscle mass is located in their arms and limbs to help them climb better. | ||
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
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Le French
France782 Posts
On May 25 2008 12:19 Lemonwalrus wrote: Alright, a few people from irc and I were talking, and we started, for some reason, debating whether or not a human could win in a fight 'to the death' against a dog. For the sake of accuracy, I will present a specific situation for the poll. You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight? Poll: Dog or Human? (Vote): Dog wins (Vote): Person wins Feel free to discuss your views in the thread. Edit:  sorry.Nice looking retro poll graphics | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
On July 31 2012 21:58 Thylacine wrote: To all those who talked about low weighing chimpanzees that would be dominated by athletes, here's some information: Yeah. Have fun fighting that. source: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2/can-a-90-lb-chimp-clobber-a-full-grown-man Not a very good source. The experiment that the person is referencing was later proven to be very wrong... The counter experiment was actually sourced in an article a while back when that show-chimp ripped off a ladies face. (If memory serves correctly... I could be misremembering something) | ||
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Nachtwind
Germany1130 Posts
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race. I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote: lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race. I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... | ||
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sc14s
United States5052 Posts
On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote: lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race. I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? | ||
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