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On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ...
Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right...
Also a sheep ... ? right ...
Right. Period.
On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it?
Me have dis you mean dis y know o?
"You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?"
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You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon.
Surgically implanted wrist tazers?
Replace arms with sword blades?
I think if street clothes includes shoes, human has distinct advantage of being able to kick without fear of foot injury. Human wins.
Without shoes - tries to kick, dog eats foot, bleeding foot stump impedes movement - human slips on bloody foot stump allowing dog access trachea, dog evicts human throat from neck. Dog wins.
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On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit.
So much fail in one comment.
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On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?"
Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient.
Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez.
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"The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you"
That´s a trained dog. He will kill a person on command.
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On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ...
Training or not, a dog goes for the throat, do you think he cant jump 2meters to reach your throat? You only have this once chance at getting a nice kick in its face when he jumps for you, but its pretty hard to hit.
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On August 01 2012 02:24 Nachtwind wrote:
"The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you"
That´s a trained dog.
Keyword in my description was highly trained, also breed to kill.
An average dog trained to attack a average human male, the human male SHOULD win.
Humans are smarter and have multiple ways of attacking/defending.
Dog lacks intelligence(Though instincts are strong) and really can only attack with its mouth/claws.
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On August 01 2012 02:25 Warri wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Training or not, a dog goes for the throat, do you think he cant jump 2meters to reach your throat? You only have this once chance at getting a nice kick in its face when he jumps for you, but its pretty hard to hit.
Your initial kick doesn't have to just hit it's face. Kick it anywhere hard enough and it will throw it off course of your throat. The dog's only chance is the initial lunge really and thats fairly easy to deflect.
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On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez.
Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably.
Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better.
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On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better.
Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc.
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On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc.
Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro.
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On August 01 2012 02:46 Nachtwind wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc. Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro.
Lol your joking right? It's pretty easy to spot and react when the dog is coming even within 2-3 feet of you... You do realize the dogs face doesn't have much of a reach right? Humans legs are long, a dogs face is short. tons of time to react.
Edit: If the dog sneaks up on you then ya sure it can win. But in this situation you are in an average sized room with more then enough time to react and kick the dog well before it can even lunge at you.
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On August 01 2012 02:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:46 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc. Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro. Lol your joking right? It's pretty easy to spot and react when the dog is coming even within 2-3 feet of you... You do realize the dogs face doesn't have much of a reach right? Humans legs are long, a dogs face is short. tons of time to react.
Oh so you actually fight with a dog?
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On August 01 2012 02:49 Nachtwind wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:46 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc. Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro. Lol your joking right? It's pretty easy to spot and react when the dog is coming even within 2-3 feet of you... You do realize the dogs face doesn't have much of a reach right? Humans legs are long, a dogs face is short. tons of time to react. Oh so you actually fight with a dog?
No, but i've owned many dogs I've seen how fast they can jump and attack.
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On August 01 2012 01:44 Dosey wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2012 21:58 Thylacine wrote:To all those who talked about low weighing chimpanzees that would be dominated by athletes, here's some information: A 165-pound male chimpanzee named "Boma" registered a pull of 847 pounds, using only his right hand (although he did have his feet braced against the wall, being somewhat hip, in his simian way, to the principles of leverage). A 165-pound man, by comparison, could manage a one-handed pull of about 210 pounds.
Even more frightening, a female chimp, weighing a mere 135 pounds and going by the name of Suzette, checked in with a one-handed pull of 1,260 pounds. In dead lifts, chimps have been known to manage weights of 600 pounds without even breaking into a sweat.
A male gorilla could probably heft an 1,800-pound weight and not think twice about it. Yeah. Have fun fighting that. source: http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2/can-a-90-lb-chimp-clobber-a-full-grown-man Not a very good source. The experiment that the person is referencing was later proven to be very wrong... The counter experiment was actually sourced in an article a while back when that show-chimp ripped off a ladies face. (If memory serves correctly... I could be misremembering something)
Still, it's true that Orangutans, Gorillas and Chimps are insanely strong.
And would win against a human ez.
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On August 01 2012 02:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:49 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:46 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc. Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro. Lol your joking right? It's pretty easy to spot and react when the dog is coming even within 2-3 feet of you... You do realize the dogs face doesn't have much of a reach right? Humans legs are long, a dogs face is short. tons of time to react. Oh so you actually fight with a dog? No, but i've owned many dogs I've seen how fast they can jump and attack.
xDD okay bro
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On August 01 2012 02:56 Nachtwind wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:49 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:46 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:
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lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs.
Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:
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reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc. Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro. Lol your joking right? It's pretty easy to spot and react when the dog is coming even within 2-3 feet of you... You do realize the dogs face doesn't have much of a reach right? Humans legs are long, a dogs face is short. tons of time to react. Oh so you actually fight with a dog? No, but i've owned many dogs I've seen how fast they can jump and attack. xDD okay bro
lol wow, great argument bro! You've totally proven your point with that one....
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Dog versus Man?
Hmmm...
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Dog Man wins.
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Well it might hurt you but a person will definetely win, even if he catches your arm or something just kick it in the balls and problem solved
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On August 01 2012 02:50 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On August 01 2012 02:49 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:46 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:32 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:29 Hermasaurus wrote:On August 01 2012 02:19 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On August 01 2012 02:15 Nachtwind wrote:On August 01 2012 02:04 Lysanias wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. lol @ can't read the question properly. We are comparing averages here, not fully trained attack dogs. Also a sheep ... ? right ... Avarge human man of 75-80 kg vs a 30-40 kg running ball of meat, claws and teeth... right... Also a sheep ... ? right ... Right. Period. On August 01 2012 02:11 sc14s wrote:On August 01 2012 01:58 Nachtwind wrote:
lol @ all that vote for humans that would win with bear hands
battle trained Schäferhunde will went immenditly to the throat no matter how long they need no matter how many pounds you have how much you can fight you will lose no matter what. Also the jaw power (newton) is more then any other dog race.
I was raised with them because my family breed them. And i saw how a sheppard hunted down a sheep. So pls don´t tell me bullshit. reading comprehension, dost thou have it? Me have dis you mean dis y know o? "You and a German Sheppard are put into a regular sized room and you must fight until one of you dies. The dog will immediately attack you (once released) and it will be set on killing you. You have no weapons, and are wearing no protective clothing, just regular street clothes. You can't use anything that isn't part of you as a weapon. Given this situation, who do you think would win the fight?" Average human male vs average dog. Human wins probably around 95% of the time. Humans have higher intelligence and would evaluate how to fight the dog. Like keeping distance with kicks, letting the dog bite your arm and going for the choke etc. The way dogs attack are very one dimensional and easy to read, dogs are not meant to fight/hunt 1 on 1 they are pack animals and have evolved around that basis. They are most effective at killing in groups, one distracts while others circle and jump in from different angles. When attacking from just one angle they are not nearly as efficient. Human vs Highly trained breed to kill giant dog beast... well the dog probably wins that one pretty ez. Your average Human doesn't "evaluate" how to fight. If you've ever see 2 average, untrained male or females fight it's usually two people swinging uncontrollably. Now I know among the tl community there are anomalies. Like I'm sure most this community is 3rd degree black belt or better. Your average human should be able to(While the dog is still leashed) evaluate the situation and adjust, if we couldn't do that we wouldn't have survived and evolved. Even without evaluating how to the fight, the human should still be able to figure out easily how to survive. If it lunges at me natural instinct kick it etc. Ya try to kick it. Better have reflex like Bruce Lee Bro. Lol your joking right? It's pretty easy to spot and react when the dog is coming even within 2-3 feet of you... You do realize the dogs face doesn't have much of a reach right? Humans legs are long, a dogs face is short. tons of time to react. Oh so you actually fight with a dog? No, but i've owned many dogs I've seen how fast they can jump and attack.
Unless you've had multiple German Shepard's, I don't see how that is relevant.
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