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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
Honestly, if Trudeau was a little less corrupt, I'd be much happier voting for the liberals/NDP. They largely align with my views, but it's been yearly scandal after scandal, and the sleazy people in cabinet aren't much better. Regardless though, doesn't matter for covid at this point. I now know 3 people who have gotten vaccinated for sure (probably a few more in healthcare that I haven't spoken to this year), so the end is coming, slowly. The AZ setbacks are rough though. We wanted to use the AZ vaccine in high spread environments because the ease of transport/administration lends itself to vaccination of workplaces and other similar areas. I hope we do a rethink and repurpose Moderna for doing that despite the lower quantities. USA seems like they would be open to sharing doses in the near future because by mid-April more than half the states will have opened vaccinations to everyone. Hopefully the second states start having a demand problem, they start sharing their Pfizer supply with Canada. An extra million or doses a week would make a gigantic dent in our population/vaccination timeline. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17960 Posts
On March 31 2021 06:39 Lmui wrote: I'm too young to really remember much of Chretien. Harper and Trudeau are the only prime ministers I've known in my lifetime. i'm too young to remember Chretien. However, I research and read lots of books and watch old interviews and old discussions. Chretien is a genius and grew up under harsh circumstances i can go into more detail comparing Chretien to Justin in the canadian politics thread if you wish. | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17960 Posts
 https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/sanofi-to-build-new-manufacturing-facility-in-toronto-to-strengthen-domestic-pandemic-preparedness-and-increase-global-supply-of-high-dose-influenza-vaccine-860259444.html In partnership with the Governments of Canada, Ontario, and the City of Toronto, the new facility will enhance influenza pandemic preparedness efforts and vaccine manufacturing capacity Smart move by Sanofi. Seeing how dumb the federal and provincial governments have appeared for the last year it appears Sanofi pounced on this display of weakness. Ontario and Canada is playing a weak hand and is more than willing to offer Sanofi a sweetheart of a deal. I hope this initiative succeeds and improves the lives of employees and all Canadians without costing governments too much cash. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On March 31 2021 23:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote: well well well .. i guess the leadership within Ontario and Canada was reading this thread. https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/sanofi-to-build-new-manufacturing-facility-in-toronto-to-strengthen-domestic-pandemic-preparedness-and-increase-global-supply-of-high-dose-influenza-vaccine-860259444.html Smart move by Sanofi. Seeing how dumb the federal and provincial governments have appeared for the last year it appears Sanofi pounced on this display of weakness. Ontario and Canada is playing a weak hand and is more than willing to offer Sanofi a sweetheart of a deal. I hope this initiative succeeds and improves the lives of employees and all Canadians without costing governments too much cash. Would be nice to have some domestic manufacturing. We're also a relatively tiny country, so if they have to churn out a global supply of vaccines, fully vaccinating Canada is a blip in the manufacturing schedule. Also looks like Canada might have to wait a little longer to receive vaccines from the USA. https://arstechnica.com/science/2021/03/pfizer-covid-vaccine-shows-100-efficacy-in-adolescents-12-15/ The vaccine appeared more effective at spurring defensive immune responses in adolescents ages 12 to 15 than in the 16- to 25-year-old group, producing even higher levels of antibodies that were able to neutralize SARS-CoV-2. In a measure of neutralizing antibodies, vaccinated youths in the new trial had geometric mean titers (GMTs) of 1,239.5, compared with the GMTs of 705.1 previously seen in those ages 16 to 25, Pfizer noted. With how many people go to the average high school, it's pretty worthwhile to have crews out to vaccinate entire schools at once. I'm expecting approval to go quickly, and that's another few days worth of recipients. You might also save the graduating class of 2021's prom/end of year celebrations too. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On March 31 2021 06:34 Jockmcplop wrote: The AZ vaccine has made me many, many times more ill than having coronavirus did. :/ sorry to hear that, but... could you be any less specific so that literally anybody on this planet can interpret literally _anything_ into your post? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10014 Posts
On April 01 2021 05:42 Doublemint wrote: sorry to hear that, but... could you be any less specific so that literally anybody on this planet can interpret literally _anything_ into your post? lol Sorry, I didn't really feel like making long detailed posts due to the terrible headache. The side effects I have been experiencing from the vaccine: Headache Nausea and vomiting Fever Cough and sore throat Achy muscles Prickly skin Fatigue When I had covid I had a mild fever and loss of taste and smell. It was only January when I had covid so (without any medical knowledge at all) it could be that my antibodies were a bit too primed to take on whatever is in the vaccine. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
side effects can be nasty for sure after a vaccination, a friend of mine who is doing his housemanship in a hospital told me he got knocked out good for a whole weekend after one round of the Pfizer one. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/01/boris-johnson-gives-backing-to-domestic-use-of-covid-passports Boris Johnson backs domestic Covid passports as pilot events are planned Interim report on measure due on Monday, but trials already in pipeline for football matches later this month Boris Johnson has given firm backing to the use of Covid passports with pilots for large events planned for this month. Johnson, who has faced criticism from his own party over the proposed use of Covid certification in small venues such as pubs and restaurants, has noticeably warmed to the idea in recent weeks. Government sources have suggested the certificates could be used by businesses as a way to relax social distancing measures inside venues. An interim report into the measure is due to be published on Monday but local residents near Wembley have already been invited to apply for tickets to attend the FA Cup semi-final on 18 April between Leicester and Southampton. Brent council said each attender had to return a negative lateral flow Covid-19 test 24 hours before attending the game and show proof to gain entry. They will also need to take a PCR home test after the event. Speaking on a visit to Middlesbrough, Johnson said a certificate could be used to prove a person was safe in a number of different ways – not just vaccination. He suggested businesses would welcome the idea. “When it comes to trying to make sure that we give maximum confidence to business and to customers here in the UK, there are three things: your immunity, whether you’ve had it before, so you’ve got natural antibodies anyway; whether you’ve been vaccinated; and then, of course, whether you’ve had a test. And so those three things working together will, I think, be useful,” he said. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On April 02 2021 15:30 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: Boris Johnson is backing COVID passports and trials are set for football matches later this month.Israel is further along with it's 'Green Passports' but i expect the UK and EU will catch up, USA will follow but with patchier acceptance in Republican governed states (NY has already rolled out it's Excelsior COVID passport app whilst Florida governor has announced he will outlaw vaccine passports in the state for instance). Hopefully our opposition grows a spine and votes against this sort of thing, Starmer's at least indicating Labour may oppose it, which with enough of a backlash within Boris' own party, might strike down what'd be the most disgusting bit of legislation I've ever seen in my life. The UK doesn't feel remotely like a free and democratic country right now, if I need to disclose medical records to get on with "normal" life, I'm done here | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On April 03 2021 00:00 sixfour wrote: Hopefully our opposition grows a spine and votes against this sort of thing, Starmer's at least indicating Labour may oppose it, which with enough of a backlash within Boris' own party, might strike down what'd be the most disgusting bit of legislation I've ever seen in my life. The UK doesn't feel remotely like a free and democratic country right now, if I need to disclose medical records to get on with "normal" life, I'm done here UK Govt also put up a job ad for a 'Interim Head of Asymptomatic Testing Communication' (Salary £750.00 per day if you don't mind) https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/details/5585948 Job description states You will primarily be responsible for delivering a communications strategy to support the expansion of asymptomatic testing, that normalises testing as part of everyday life. So they will be testing daily on top of requiring people to check in with COVID passports, wearing masks, social distancing, other restrictions, even after vaccination.Maybe some people here approve of all that government overstep, personally i don't.I don't like where it's going. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
Just four months ago the idea of COVID passports for sports events and pubs in the UK was ruled out https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-michael-gove-rules-out-vaccine-passports-for-pub-theatre-and-sport-stadium-visits-12147819 Now, they are running trial programs for COVID passports in UK sports stadiums by the end of the month.If you still think all this is temporary, after over a year of them lying and the constant goalpost shifting, then good luck to you. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On April 03 2021 02:25 JimmiC wrote: If you check the post it is interm and temporary. So was three weeks to flatten the curve, and here we are a year later | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On April 03 2021 03:28 sixfour wrote: So was three weeks to flatten the curve, and here we are a year later Our country didn't had full quarantines last year, and now that we now they don't work and anyone over 65 was vaccinated more than 2 weeks ago, we have them. The moving goal posts and the mental gymnastics people do, to support this endless tyranny, is vomit inducing. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
It is a lot of work to do it, for minimal gain inside of a country. Most people will be vaccinated within 3-6 months in western countries. If it hasn't rolled out by now, there's not all too much point in starting the work towards it. Whatever papers they give you for proof of vaccination will have to do. | ||
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sixfour
England11062 Posts
On April 03 2021 06:08 Lmui wrote: To be honest, vaccine passports are an interim solution/international solution only. Once enough people are vaccinated to hit herd immunity vaccine passports don't matter since the virus will largely die out. We are at that stage in the UK, and they are planning to do that anyway. Domestically. I've given up hope of ever watching my football team again, even though there is no risk to going to the game tomorrow that is more than what there was in 2019. On April 03 2021 04:32 JimmiC wrote: Interesting fact, they didn't know everything about the brand new virus. No. The first lockdown we had here I could just about accept given that there was a great deal of uncertainty, even though that went against every single bit of pandemic planning that had been done by any country for decades. But once it was abundantly clear that: a) Covid was at least an order of magnitude less deadly than first feared b) Covid did not affect people equally and for the vast majority of the population is of no concern whatsoever c) The initial rationale for the lockdown ("protect the NHS") was done once we knew that we had hit peak infections before lockdown All of which were known last May at the latest, that should have been the complete end of it. But we're twelve months on and we still have fuckwits thinking this is a major issue, if only to try to continue to cover their asses for doing the most damage anyone has done to this country since the 1940's. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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