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Husyelt
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Gahlo
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ChristianS
United States3304 Posts
On March 24 2021 09:03 WombaT wrote: Additionally I don’t think an Eliot Roger really gets there alone, he probably looked for friendship and camaraderie in quite a few places before sifting down into the incel world and had his views reinforced and made more extreme. I can’t think of many more destructive ‘communities’ outside of the pro-anorexia support networks than incels. I’m not sure if any of you guys have ever talked to one mano o mano but it’s a tragically destructive circle. Obviously want companionship as most of us do, get bitter, get surrounded by even more people, become worse at interacting with the object of romantic desire because of your bitter views, and so the cycle goes. No amount of logic really punctures through, although I hope most of them can grow out of it. From my limited understanding they mostly seem to rail against the decline of a predictable social order, although I think that stems from an idealised view on how the past actually was and nothing too related to class entitlement or what have you. I’ve heard it argued that we’re going through similar cultural forces to those Japan went through ~30 years ago. As the story goes, economic conditions lead to a younger generation slowly figuring out that despite supposed economic growth and improving technology, they’re just not going to have the same opportunities their parents had, and they can’t really picture conditions that would allow them to, say, buy a house. At the same time that technology *is* providing a lot of fantastic types of distraction to retreat to, and more and more people wind up spending just about all their time online. Image board culture is born out of these types of people, and for all their joking and trolling there’s a kind of latent rage in these communities at the world for being so circumscribed. This catches on over here just as economic conditions leave our generation with the same sense of hopelessness. I’m not sure I buy 100% of that story, but it’s clearly true the internet has created a path to self-radicalization for those so inclined, and that stuff like what I’ve heard called the “affordability crisis” creates some of the discontentment that leads a few to that inclination. Hank Green (a prominent YouTuber) made a video just after the capitol insurrection talking about how influencers are incentivized toward more and more extremist political viewpoints, and conspiracy theories give people a way to feel like they matter where our society usually makes them feel like they don’t. Idk, there’s always a million trends to keep track of when talking about “cultural forces” and nothing’s quantifiable and I get kind of bewildered. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24142 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On March 25 2021 05:47 GreenHorizons wrote: Kamala Harris pairing up with Bill Clinton of all people for a 1 on 1 discussion about the impact of the pandemic on/empowering women while Democrats balk at impeaching Cuomo seems kinda ridiculous to me. Yeah what in the god damn hell is Bill Clinton doing there? Holy shit get that dirt bag the FUCK out of here. | ||
KwarK
United States44194 Posts
On March 25 2021 06:53 Mohdoo wrote: Yeah what in the god damn hell is Bill Clinton doing there? Holy shit get that dirt bag the FUCK out of here. At a certain point you have to wonder if the Democratic elite are match fixing. | ||
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Doublemint
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
Democrats are protecting Newsom from democrat challengers. I hope we end up with a republican governor of California. This is just awful. 2nd worse Democrat gov by far | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24142 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
There's plenty to criticize about Biden, but the media is focusing on some of the dumbest issues. Not sure if that's on purpose or not. (The recent one is that he's thin skinned because he won't hold press conferences. Uh, the president shouldn't have TIME for more than a couple a year. It's like they forgot that Trump never held formal ones and his informal ones were because he was flying between golf courses and wanted to shout in front of a chopper. Another news site wrote an article claiming he was using COVID to hide from the press since they made the press room really long). Immediately after all this criticism he holds a press conference where they lob right wing talking points at him and then go all *surprised pikachu* when he's annoyed. The current one is about migrant conditions at the border. They're not amazing, but people at the border are up what, 500% since he got elected? Additionally, the agencies running these borders are openly anti-Biden and going to do everything in their power to make him look bad. They're overcrowding facilities and then blaming Biden for their own human rights abuses. He should still do something about it, but it's just as overblown as the "caravan" was. | ||
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farvacola
United States18866 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24142 Posts
On March 26 2021 03:22 Nevuk wrote: I'd take Biden over Harris, which are the current front runners. I'm not sure he'll be able to run in 2024 due to his age. Harris isn't charismatic enough and has too much baggage. Even with that announcement the front runner is still "someone else" for 2024 imo. There's plenty to criticize about Biden, but the media is focusing on some of the dumbest issues. Not sure if that's on purpose or not. (The recent one is that he's thin skinned because he won't hold press conferences. Uh, the president shouldn't have TIME for more than a couple a year. It's like they forgot that Trump never held formal ones and his informal ones were because he was flying between golf courses and wanted to shout in front of a chopper. Another news site wrote an article claiming he was using COVID to hide from the press since they made the press room really long). Immediately after all this criticism he holds a press conference where they lob right wing talking points at him and then go all *surprised pikachu* when he's annoyed. The current one is about migrant conditions at the border. They're not amazing, but people at the border are up what, 500% since he got elected? Additionally, the agencies running these borders are openly anti-Biden and going to do everything in their power to make him look bad. They're overcrowding facilities and then blaming Biden for their own human rights abuses. He should still do something about it, but it's just as overblown as the "caravan" was. If Biden doesn't want a primary, it's going to be very hard for Democrats to have one. Biden expecting to run in 2024 means he doesn't want a primary. Biden's failures at the border aren't a "dumb issue" imo. I recently pointed out how despite being the wealthiest country on the planet we don't ensure citizen children have reliably safe drinking water. There's no reasonable excuse for that. I feel similarly about children on the border living under criminal conditions. The lack of basic human hygiene requirements like toothbrushes is a problem going back to Biden's tenure as VP so it isn't a recent development. From my perspective the Biden administration is already quite apparently monstrous, and only viewed otherwise by comparing him to worse. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46221 Posts
On March 26 2021 03:58 JimmiC wrote: It would have been shocking if Biden didn't say that. Has anyone ever announced they won't be running again in their first press conference? Lots can happen in 3 years, I'm with Nevek in someone else as the front runner. But if he's popular and the Reps are going to run it back with Trump, I could see the Dems running it back. In unrelated news I'm watching parks and rec and the Biden cameo was last night, (Leslie the main character has a huge crush on Biden, gets to meet him and hits of him super hard) was extra funny given he's now the president and everything that has gone on. Her interaction with Michelle Obama is amazing too  If Biden continues to wrangle in this pandemic, I could see him beating Trump / the next Republican nominee, as long as he also does a few other things that liberals/progressives would like to see, like helping Congress pass universal healthcare. | ||
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JimmiC
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32751 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46221 Posts
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On March 26 2021 05:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Her interaction with Michelle Obama is amazing too If Biden continues to wrangle in this pandemic, I could see him beating Trump / the next Republican nominee, as long as he also does a few other things that liberals/progressives would like to see, like helping Congress pass universal healthcare. Biden said on the campaign trail that he would veto UHC if it made it to his desk. There's no chance it even gets that far but even if it does it's not happening while he's in office. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46221 Posts
On March 26 2021 09:05 StasisField wrote: Biden said on the campaign trail that he would veto UHC if it made it to his desk. There's no chance it even gets that far but even if it does it's not happening while he's in office. I thought that was specifically M4A, not other possible universal healthcare proposals? | ||
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