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Just Exchange pressure for incentivse and we're good?
On March 18 2021 03:20 micronesia wrote:
I don't think it's "ethical" to pressure people into spending their stimulus money any particular way (obviously excluding immoral uses of it entirely). These people did not ask for the stimulus money and did not ask for your opinion. Of course if they do, feel free to offer it.
It's called stimulus/relief and not savealot for a reason?
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Mohdoo, you went from “thinking” something to “strongly disagreeing” with an opposing viewpoint. What changed?
Perhaps we are in a gray area where behaviors are not strictly ethical or unethical.
Edit: no objection to Artisreal’s suggestion.
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Context is important imo; this thread (and voluntary discussion environments/scenarios of all kinds, really) imply a submission to the expressions of other participants. That is not the case elsewhere, and it's in those scenarios where it becomes unethical to impose on others. This is related to why, for example, folks who see one or even a few other people spend their food stamps on chips and cigarettes do not suddenly have license to instruct all people who receive food stamps on what they can and cannot purchase.
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On March 18 2021 03:30 micronesia wrote:
You went from “thinking” something to “strongly disagreeing” with an opposing viewpoint. What changed?
Perhaps we are in a gray area where behaviors are not strictly ethical or unethical.
Edit: no objection to Artisreal’s suggestion.
Nothing changed, just being more delicate in my original post since I tend to be too colorful with my wording. Do you take offense to someone saying how you ought to spend your money or something? I just can't imagine a situation where I would say someone's suggestion to me in a political thread is out of line. Farv did a good job at explaining my perspective above.
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To be clear I don't have any problem with you sharing that perspective with us in this thread. I was thinking about you going up to people you know who aren't discussing the the topic with you, bringing it up unsolicited, and then pressuring them. Even worse if it's people you don't know, I assume.
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Indeed, I figured you both had different contexts in mind, so I added my 2 cents :D
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On March 18 2021 03:34 micronesia wrote:
To be clear I don't have any problem with you sharing that perspective with us in this thread. I was thinking about you going up to people you know who aren't discussing the the topic with you, bringing it up unsolicited, and then pressuring them. Even worse if it's people you don't know, I assume.
When I posted that, was your impression that I walked up to you and said it, or did it seem more like I posted it on an internet forum?
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Biden seems to be coming out in favor of filibuster reform, shortly after McConnell made some really stupid threats if it got taken away (he said he'd obstruct everything possible if they took it away... to which most people replied... aren't you already doing that?).
Specifically, he is backing a return to the talking filibuster :
Additionally, this bonkers press conference is probably the starkest demonstration of just how racist the police are in recent memory - as it's coming from the chief rather than one of the officers. They're basically trying to blame everything but racism for why a person murdered 8 people at a Salon, including 6 asian women. (Chief said it was about sexual addiction and that the shooter had just had a bad day, OK?)
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On March 18 2021 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2021 03:34 micronesia wrote:
To be clear I don't have any problem with you sharing that perspective with us in this thread. I was thinking about you going up to people you know who aren't discussing the the topic with you, bringing it up unsolicited, and then pressuring them. Even worse if it's people you don't know, I assume. When I posted that, was your impression that I walked up to you and said it, or did it seem more like I posted it on an internet forum?
I thought you were speaking generally about interactions (pressuring) with others outside the thread.
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On March 18 2021 04:19 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2021 03:37 Mohdoo wrote:On March 18 2021 03:34 micronesia wrote:
To be clear I don't have any problem with you sharing that perspective with us in this thread. I was thinking about you going up to people you know who aren't discussing the the topic with you, bringing it up unsolicited, and then pressuring them. Even worse if it's people you don't know, I assume. When I posted that, was your impression that I walked up to you and said it, or did it seem more like I posted it on an internet forum? I thought you were speaking generally about interactions (pressuring) with others outside the thread.
Fair enough, my apologies for being unclear.
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On March 18 2021 04:14 Nevuk wrote:Biden seems to be coming out in favor of filibuster reform, shortly after McConnell made some really stupid threats if it got taken away (he said he'd obstruct everything possible if they took it away... to which most people replied... aren't you already doing that?). Specifically, he is backing a return to the talking filibuster : https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1371989674013626371Additionally, this bonkers press conference is probably the starkest demonstration of just how racist the police are in recent memory - as it's coming from the chief rather than one of the officers. They're basically trying to blame everything but racism for why a person murdered 8 people at a Salon, including 6 asian women. (Chief said it was about sexual addiction and that the shooter had just had a bad day, OK?) https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713
No, he was actually an antifa plant. This is obviously a leftist false flag operation.
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I'd gladly spend my check on a car, but while I can afford the lease payments + insurance with my current wage it's unaffordable, or a GPU, but they'd have to give me a hell of a lot more before I consider spending scalping prices.
So for now it's gonna sit in my bank account.
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On March 18 2021 08:38 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2021 08:28 EnDeR_ wrote:On March 18 2021 04:14 Nevuk wrote:Biden seems to be coming out in favor of filibuster reform, shortly after McConnell made some really stupid threats if it got taken away (he said he'd obstruct everything possible if they took it away... to which most people replied... aren't you already doing that?). Specifically, he is backing a return to the talking filibuster : https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1371989674013626371Additionally, this bonkers press conference is probably the starkest demonstration of just how racist the police are in recent memory - as it's coming from the chief rather than one of the officers. They're basically trying to blame everything but racism for why a person murdered 8 people at a Salon, including 6 asian women. (Chief said it was about sexual addiction and that the shooter had just had a bad day, OK?) https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713 No, he was actually an antifa plant. This is obviously a leftist false flag operation. One of the silliest things is antifa people and so on, don't vote Dem. So including them with the Dems makes no sense. However, proud boys, 3%rs and so on do vote Trump(love him) so it does make sense to talk about them as Republicans.
If you are as far right as the republicans, anyone to the left of you looks like an extremist, which all look the same.
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On March 19 2021 01:16 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2021 13:47 Simberto wrote:On March 18 2021 08:38 JimmiC wrote:On March 18 2021 08:28 EnDeR_ wrote:On March 18 2021 04:14 Nevuk wrote:Biden seems to be coming out in favor of filibuster reform, shortly after McConnell made some really stupid threats if it got taken away (he said he'd obstruct everything possible if they took it away... to which most people replied... aren't you already doing that?). Specifically, he is backing a return to the talking filibuster : https://twitter.com/maxberger/status/1371989674013626371Additionally, this bonkers press conference is probably the starkest demonstration of just how racist the police are in recent memory - as it's coming from the chief rather than one of the officers. They're basically trying to blame everything but racism for why a person murdered 8 people at a Salon, including 6 asian women. (Chief said it was about sexual addiction and that the shooter had just had a bad day, OK?) https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1372203730481864713 No, he was actually an antifa plant. This is obviously a leftist false flag operation. One of the silliest things is antifa people and so on, don't vote Dem. So including them with the Dems makes no sense. However, proud boys, 3%rs and so on do vote Trump(love him) so it does make sense to talk about them as Republicans. If you are as far right as the republicans, anyone to the left of you looks like an extremist, which all look the same. It is sure hard to argue with that. 12 voted against honoring the capital police all were republicans... https://ca.yahoo.com/news/12-republicans-voted-against-giving-030305530.html
They back the blue, except when the blue actually does their job and mitigates violent attacks on the nation's capitol. At least the mask is off regarding patriotism and all their alleged values.
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Biden's messaging around "100 million vaccines in 100 days" has proven to be a genius move. No way his people were incompetent enough to not know that they wouldn't blow right past that at this rate. Pivoting to making the goal post 200 million seems like a very achievable goal with a 4th of July celebration being a signal of returning to normalcy.
Major issues remain with China and getting the economy back but there does look to be a real path to the Senate remaining in Democratic hands.
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100m in 100 days is a real goal, with numbers that they could easily hit. It rolls off the tongue, and they're on course to more than double that number. If the pandemic largely ends by mid May in the USA (which it should), it's going to be a wild ass Memorial day.
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I agree that the 100 million vaccines in 100 days messaging has been great for Biden and co. Not only are we going to blow that number out of the water but we are also doing a much better job at getting everyone vaccinated compared to many other countries.
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On March 20 2021 07:05 StasisField wrote:
I agree that the 100 million vaccines in 100 days messaging has been great for Biden and co. Not only are we going to blow that number out of the water but we are also doing a much better job at getting everyone vaccinated compared to many other countries.
I don't quite not quite like that Biden is using what Trump & co did badly as an excuse to give the previous administration zero credit for the vaccine program. If the election had been a few months later, it might even have been enough to win for Trump.
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