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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 08 2021 00:52 GMT
#59541
On January 08 2021 09:02 Nevuk wrote:
Simon and schuster have cancelled Hawley's book, which was in a darkly ironic twist, to have been titled, "The Tyranny of Big Tech".

It is a ridiculous day when you face more consequences for trying to overthrow the government from the private sector than you do from the actual government.


Isn't Hawley a lawyer? He tweeted complaining that the first amendment. Like, he literally says them dropping the book deal with him is a DIRECT ASSAULT ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT. But isn't Simon and Schuster a private company and thus like... not the government, which makes this not a direct assault on the first amendment?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
January 08 2021 00:57 GMT
#59542
On January 08 2021 09:52 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 09:02 Nevuk wrote:
Simon and schuster have cancelled Hawley's book, which was in a darkly ironic twist, to have been titled, "The Tyranny of Big Tech".

It is a ridiculous day when you face more consequences for trying to overthrow the government from the private sector than you do from the actual government.


Isn't Hawley a lawyer? He tweeted complaining that the first amendment. Like, he literally says them dropping the book deal with him is a DIRECT ASSAULT ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT. But isn't Simon and Schuster a private company and thus like... not the government, which makes this not a direct assault on the first amendment?

Look Zambrah I’m a poor, underemployed man. It would seem that to my untrained eye as a person who isn’t from the States, but surely the lawyer and member of the legislative branch must know what he’s talking about.

'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 01:05:37
January 08 2021 01:03 GMT
#59543
One of the cops has died from his wounds, cnn is reporting. So in the span of two hours Trump supporters killed infinitely more cops than antifa.

Police union called for the capitol police chiefs resignation and he immediately tendered it. Impressive that they can get that sort of turnaround while the #2 person in the US government (Pelosi) doesn't.



Hawley definitely knows that it doesn't violate the first amendment. He just has an appropriate view of the ignorance of his and Trump's supporters.

Trump also has a concession video up where he lies about deploying the guard immediately and sounds like he's being held at gunpoint.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 08 2021 01:20 GMT
#59544
--- Nuked ---
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
January 08 2021 01:40 GMT
#59545
The video posted by trump on Twitter feels like the condition for not having him removed by pence
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 01:48:09
January 08 2021 01:47 GMT
#59546
Now he is going to devote his attention to pardons, stripping regulations, making money for himself. His contrition is way too too little too late, I hope they they still manage to remove him.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 01:56:45
January 08 2021 01:52 GMT
#59547
He cannot be allowed to stay. Under any circumstances. Letting him finish his term is a big flashing, "WE DO NOT HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE" sign and it will GUARANTEE that if the Republican survives as is we WILL see another Trump, they will be smarter, more competent, and they will be even worse.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11607 Posts
January 08 2021 02:07 GMT
#59548
He cannot be allowed to stay.

He won't. Thirteen days.

Letting him finish his term is a big flashing,..

'Letting'? There is the way to remove the president: impeachment.

As for the 25th, my original claim was poked at, but I didn't really see any counter claim after that, but it seems to me people have wrongly latched on to this 25th as a method. But it seems to be the wrong tool for the job at hand.

I think you are catastrophizing a bit. Thirteen days more signifies very little.
ModeratorWake me up when Trump's term is finished. Slava Ukraini.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
January 08 2021 02:09 GMT
#59549
On January 08 2021 11:07 Falling wrote:
Show nested quote +
He cannot be allowed to stay.

He won't. Thirteen days.

Show nested quote +
Letting him finish his term is a big flashing,..

'Letting'? There is the way to remove the president: impeachment.

As for the 25th, my original claim was poked at, but I didn't really see any counter claim after that, but it seems to me people have wrongly latched on to this 25th as a method. But it seems to be the wrong tool for the job at hand.

I think you are catastrophizing a bit. Thirteen days more signifies very little.


It signifies "the president can incite insurrection and face no consequences!"

Youre insane if you think what happened yesterday is so little of a deal that he shouldn't be punished for it.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9644 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 02:59:30
January 08 2021 02:13 GMT
#59550
yea it’s easy to see a bunch of hapless fucks roaming the capitol in a less than serious light but they are terrorists.

the president of the united states agitated, and ultimately (albeit off the record) supported these terrorists.

if there is any recording or evidence of Trumps vocal support of domestic terrorists forcing their way into the capitol where hundreds of politicians were verifying the results of the election, i mean, the fuck? when DO you remove a president? when he gets in on the action? if he wasn’t an old fat bastard who can barely seem to string a coherent sentence together i have no doubt he’d delight in it. if this doesn’t scream ‘incapabaple of fulfilling his duties as president’ i just don’t know what does.

US senators and congressmen were minutes away from being hostages.

if your gripe is that the 25th doesn’t allow for this, i mean poked at isn’t it, you are just not understanding the words. the text says ‘unable to discharge the duties.’ He failed at discharging more than one of his duties as president yesterday. nobody disputes that he refused to call in the national guard, we don’t even have to hold him accountable for inciting the violence.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 02:43:59
January 08 2021 02:27 GMT
#59551
Yeah, can you imagine what would have happened if that mob got their hands on pelosi or aoc?

Falling, farvacola quoted you the relevant text of the 25th and I never saw you respond to it. What was your issue with that section?
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-08 02:43:47
January 08 2021 02:43 GMT
#59552
Betsy Devo's has resigned. Her brother led a gang of mercenary, accused war criminals. Her line is apparently really far out there, but it does exist.

StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
January 08 2021 02:46 GMT
#59553
On January 08 2021 11:27 Starlightsun wrote:
Yeah, can you imagine what would have happened if that mob got their hands on pelosi or aoc?

Falling, farvacola quoted you the relevant text of the 25th and I never saw you respond to it. What was your issue with that section?

Considering there is photo evidence of at least one individual having a handgun and several zip ties, I can unfortunately imagine what would have happened quite clearly.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9077 Posts
January 08 2021 02:47 GMT
#59554
Everyone leaving after 4 years of his nonsense stating yesterday was the last straw. As was mentioned earlier, they were fine with the grifting and abuses of power. But yesterday...woo boy that was going just a bit too far.
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
January 08 2021 02:51 GMT
#59555
On January 08 2021 11:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Everyone leaving after 4 years of his nonsense stating yesterday was the last straw. As was mentioned earlier, they were fine with the grifting and abuses of power. But yesterday...woo boy that was going just a bit too far.

The fascist LARPing got too real for 'em, I guess. "Pretend" coups where they try to abuse the justice system are fine but people following their example and storming the capitol is too far.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 08 2021 02:52 GMT
#59556
On January 08 2021 11:43 Nevuk wrote:
Betsy Devo's has resigned. Her brother led a gang of mercenary, accused war criminals. Her line is apparently really far out there, but it does exist.

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1347361238645436416

Fucking finally. At least there won't be pushback when Joe and Dr. Biden try to put someone qualified in her place.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
StasisField
Profile Joined August 2013
United States1086 Posts
January 08 2021 02:53 GMT
#59557
On January 08 2021 11:52 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 11:43 Nevuk wrote:
Betsy Devo's has resigned. Her brother led a gang of mercenary, accused war criminals. Her line is apparently really far out there, but it does exist.

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1347361238645436416

Fucking finally. At least there won't be pushback when Joe and Dr. Biden try to put someone qualified in her place.

Like the people who will be outraged will even realize she resigned from her post.
What do you mean Immortals can't shoot up?
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9644 Posts
January 08 2021 02:53 GMT
#59558
On January 08 2021 11:43 Nevuk wrote:
Betsy Devo's has resigned. Her brother led a gang of mercenary, accused war criminals. Her line is apparently really far out there, but it does exist.

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/1347361238645436416


i know self preservation is a strong motivator here but it takes quite quite something to be on the wrong side of someone like Betsy Devos.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 08 2021 02:54 GMT
#59559
--- Nuked ---
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
January 08 2021 02:57 GMT
#59560
On January 08 2021 11:51 StasisField wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2021 11:47 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Everyone leaving after 4 years of his nonsense stating yesterday was the last straw. As was mentioned earlier, they were fine with the grifting and abuses of power. But yesterday...woo boy that was going just a bit too far.

The fascist LARPing got too real for 'em, I guess. "Pretend" coups where they try to abuse the justice system are fine but people following their example and storming the capitol is too far.

Yeah, it was all fun and games until the grifting sycophants realized people are actually gonna be pissed at them for what they're doing. Taking the country for a ride, sabotaging the government and enriching themselves to hell and back, attempting to destroy Democracy in the middle of a pandemic.

They found their line in the sand. Commend them for sticking to their moral compass. They will not go one inch further. Just ignore the 5 miles of scorched earth behind them.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
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