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On April 24 2017 03:48 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building. fillon downfall was a one in a life time blessing, he couldn't expect better
I'm really not so sure about that. Even without his scandals, he would have faced heavy fire from everyone because of his program that was so easy to caricaturize as "the same old rich people wanting to gain even more money without giving a shit about trendy topics like environment, startups, etc". I actually think his scandal helped him overall : it made him lose ~4% in the polls, but on the other hand medias and people weren't talking much about his program. Macron - Le Pen would have been the second round even without Fillon's scandals, except with Macron in second place. Now, if Juppé had won the primary, that'd have been a different story;..
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On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building.
Also masterclass of being literally pushed by the billionaires' class, always nice to have newspapers talking 24/7 about you for months
Insane alignment of planets with Hollande withdrawing, Juppé losing, Valls getting stomped, Fillon's scandal
Karma will soon backfire on him
A few months after his election, 75% of the population will hate him, it will be terrible
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Some guy at France 2 saying that Macron first is the renewal of politics lol.
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On April 24 2017 03:57 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building. Also masterclass of being literally pushed by the billionaires' class, always nice to have newspapers talking 24/7 about you for months Insane alignment of planets with Hollande withdrawing, Juppé losing, Valls getting stomped, Fillon's scandal Karma will soon backfire on him A few months after his election, 75% of the population will hate him, it will be terrible
It's the 21 first century, 75% of disapproval for a chief of state is usual.
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On April 24 2017 03:57 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building. Also masterclass of being literally pushed by the billionaires' class, always nice to have newspapers talking 24/7 about you for months Insane alignment of planets with Hollande withdrawing, Juppé losing, Valls getting stomped, Fillon's scandal Karma will soon backfire on him A few months after his election, 75% of the population will hate him, it will be terrible
You realize that according to what you said earlier, 75 to 80% of the population will hate whatever the next president is anyways?
xD
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On April 24 2017 03:57 Nakajin wrote:
Some guy at France 2 saying that Macron first is the renewal of politics lol.
This will be the hardest for weeks to come: having to permanently endure the vacuous speeches of his supporters.
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I expect to hear honeyed words of European approval over the years to come - as it slowly but surely becomes evident that the man with all the makings of a pretty disastrous presidency will deliver just that. GS alumni are not really a model of what one should hope for in a presidency - and with Trump in charge, now is not really the best time to be an American puppet.
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Canada8989 Posts
Someone know when Mélanchon is going to talk?
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On April 24 2017 04:01 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:57 TheDwf wrote:On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building. Also masterclass of being literally pushed by the billionaires' class, always nice to have newspapers talking 24/7 about you for months Insane alignment of planets with Hollande withdrawing, Juppé losing, Valls getting stomped, Fillon's scandal Karma will soon backfire on him A few months after his election, 75% of the population will hate him, it will be terrible You realize that according to what you said earlier, 75 to 80% of the population will hate whatever the next president is anyways? xD
Yes, except if said president can bring social progress, in particular for the lower classes. Now that option is lost, so impopularity will be the rule
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Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess.
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On April 24 2017 04:04 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 04:01 Poopi wrote:On April 24 2017 03:57 TheDwf wrote:On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building. Also masterclass of being literally pushed by the billionaires' class, always nice to have newspapers talking 24/7 about you for months Insane alignment of planets with Hollande withdrawing, Juppé losing, Valls getting stomped, Fillon's scandal Karma will soon backfire on him A few months after his election, 75% of the population will hate him, it will be terrible You realize that according to what you said earlier, 75 to 80% of the population will hate whatever the next president is anyways? xD Yes, except if said president can bring social progress, in particular for the lower classes. Now that option is lost, so impopularity will be the rule
Social progress at what cost tho...
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On April 24 2017 04:05 stilt wrote:
Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess.
Please abstain
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On April 24 2017 04:06 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 04:05 stilt wrote:
Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess. Please abstain
i'm seriously thinking of not voting, cause i just couldn't vote for macron
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On April 24 2017 04:08 Makro wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 04:06 TheDwf wrote:On April 24 2017 04:05 stilt wrote:
Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess. Please abstain i'm seriously thinking of not voting, cause i just couldn't vote for macron
I will 100% abstain
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On April 24 2017 04:05 stilt wrote:
Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess.
Ah the old 'I lost so lets burn the country down out of spite' vote.
Please take a look at America right now and see if you want to go down that alley.
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On April 24 2017 04:04 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 04:01 Poopi wrote:On April 24 2017 03:57 TheDwf wrote:On April 24 2017 03:46 OtherWorld wrote:
What a trajectory if Macron wins, though. President at 38, elected during the troubled times of the mid-2010s. He will be studied as a masterclass of opportunism and career-building. Also masterclass of being literally pushed by the billionaires' class, always nice to have newspapers talking 24/7 about you for months Insane alignment of planets with Hollande withdrawing, Juppé losing, Valls getting stomped, Fillon's scandal Karma will soon backfire on him A few months after his election, 75% of the population will hate him, it will be terrible You realize that according to what you said earlier, 75 to 80% of the population will hate whatever the next president is anyways? xD Yes, except if said president can bring social progress, in particular for the lower classes. Now that option is lost, so impopularity will be the rule
You honestly think Mélanchon could have a popular presidency?
Don't get me wrong I would have vote for him if I was french, but he is so far for the position of a huge part of the population, the same way Le Pen is never going to have a popular presidency if she win. Giving progress to the lower classes doesn't mean having their support, just ask Obama, giving healthcare and then being hated for it.
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On April 24 2017 04:05 stilt wrote:
Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess.
Isn't Le Pen far right? If so, how can left wing people like her?
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On April 24 2017 04:03 Nakajin wrote:
Someone know when Mélanchon is going to talk?
22:00 (in ~45 minutes).
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On April 24 2017 04:17 Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 04:05 stilt wrote:
Ughr, Melenchon lost...
Cohn bendit in 68 announces Macron, the liberal left is just the worst. And "free press" is a joke, every big newspapers are possessed by the richest and serve their interest by encouraging Macron, how is this democracy?
Time to vote Lepen I guess. Isn't Le Pen far right? If so, how can left wing people like her?
The extremes are basically the same, both are sufficiently angry if they lose to vote for the other side
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