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On April 24 2017 03:10 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:08 Nakajin wrote: Mélanchon and Fillion speech today are gonna be essential, Fillion will almost surely not say to vote for anyone, but Mélanchon could put his support behind Macron but I am not sure he is gonna do it.
Dupont-Agnant being so high is surprising to me, I wonder if his partisan are gonna go to Le Pen. Why would Melenchon throw in with Macron? He seems to despise neoliberalism, which is what Macron personifies. Neoliberalism vs Vichy, what do you want him to do anyway...
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france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare (in all relativity at least) :>
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Voting Hamon was voting Macron, Hamon voters knew it, they chose the defeat of the left I hope they're happy now
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Canada8989 Posts
Hamon behind Macron, no surprise here.
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On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote: france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare
You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian.
Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism.
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On April 24 2017 03:14 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote: france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian. Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism. LOL, her social program is to deport foreigners, the rest is blabla to catch the lower classes
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On April 24 2017 03:13 TheDwf wrote: Voting Hamon was voting Macron, Hamon voters knew it, they chose the defeat of the left I hope they're happy now As long as it triggers people it'll be a fun ride :D
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Do we have any tallies rather than projections? Edit: piss's link above works.
This result looks... anticlimactic. No real shakeup of worth, just Macron vs Le Pen. And Macron will win this one, do poorly, and we'll be right back here in another election cycle.
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On April 24 2017 03:15 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:14 Clonester wrote:On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote: france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian. Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism. LOL, her social program is to deport foreigners, the rest is blabla to catch the lower classes
Thats still closer then Macron.
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On April 24 2017 03:14 Clonester wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote: france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian. Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism. Racism = Taking care of your own. Typical german mentality.
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i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience
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On April 24 2017 03:16 LegalLord wrote: Do we have any tallies rather than projections?
This result looks... anticlimactic. No real shakeup of worth, just Macron vs Le Pen. And Macron will win this one, do poorly, and we'll be right back here in another election cycle. The ruling class succeded with its coup, they managed to bomb the population with their marketing product and get him auto-elected because of the comfortable devil It's a nightmare
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On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote: france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare (in all relativity at least) :>
Is that worse than Le Pen? :D
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I'd almost hope Le Pen wins the run-off purely out of spite towards Goldman Sachs Macron voters.
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On April 24 2017 03:20 Shield wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote: france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president
this is a fucking nightmare (in all relativity at least) :> Is that worse than Le Pen? :D i don't know she never went in office, but we already got a atlantist therefore so there is that
trump ready to buy some sweet french gold
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On April 24 2017 03:19 Makro wrote: i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience Yeah, it's my only source of solace. It's 1969 all over again, the social-democracy dying in disgrace and dishonor, and preventing a more radical left to reach the second round
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On April 24 2017 03:23 TheDwf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:19 Makro wrote: i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience Yeah, it's my only source of solace. It's 1969 all over again, the social-democracy dying in disgrace and dishonor, and preventing a more radical left to reach the second round Can't you guys do your crazy radical left experiments without having to leave the EU? It would make me a little bit less nervous watching French elections that way...
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Looking in detail on the French system, why is this election such a big deal? The president isn't that as powerful as it might seem from the uproar about the elections. He isn't even a head of the government, he has to name a prime minister to be approved my the majority in the parliament. In fact his powers aren't that much bigger than those of the Czech president and here this post is largely considered symbolical (even though the latest holder has shown some pretty creative ways to abuse the powers for actual influence).
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On April 24 2017 03:24 warding wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2017 03:23 TheDwf wrote:On April 24 2017 03:19 Makro wrote: i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience Yeah, it's my only source of solace. It's 1969 all over again, the social-democracy dying in disgrace and dishonor, and preventing a more radical left to reach the second round Can't you guys do your crazy radical left experiments without having to leave the EU? It would make me a little bit less nervous watching French elections that way...
Can't do crazy radical left experiments in the common market, would probably violate one of the economic freedoms
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