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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:12 GMT
#15981
On April 24 2017 03:10 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:08 Nakajin wrote:
Mélanchon and Fillion speech today are gonna be essential, Fillion will almost surely not say to vote for anyone, but Mélanchon could put his support behind Macron but I am not sure he is gonna do it.

Dupont-Agnant being so high is surprising to me, I wonder if his partisan are gonna go to Le Pen.

Why would Melenchon throw in with Macron? He seems to despise neoliberalism, which is what Macron personifies.

Neoliberalism vs Vichy, what do you want him to do anyway...
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 18:13:40
April 23 2017 18:12 GMT
#15982
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare (in all relativity at least) :>
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:13 GMT
#15983
Voting Hamon was voting Macron, Hamon voters knew it, they chose the defeat of the left
I hope they're happy now
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 23 2017 18:13 GMT
#15984
Hamon behind Macron, no surprise here.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
April 23 2017 18:14 GMT
#15985
On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote:
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare


You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian.

Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 23 2017 18:14 GMT
#15986
I am watching here:

https://www.thelocal.fr/20170423/interactive-map-of-the-2017-french-presidential-election

And it caught my eye that the lowest candidate is "unclasifiable". What an interesting figure, apparently a part of his program is the colonisation of Mars!
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:15 GMT
#15987
On April 24 2017 03:14 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote:
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare


You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian.

Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism.

LOL, her social program is to deport foreigners, the rest is blabla to catch the lower classes
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
April 23 2017 18:15 GMT
#15988
On April 24 2017 03:13 TheDwf wrote:
Voting Hamon was voting Macron, Hamon voters knew it, they chose the defeat of the left
I hope they're happy now

As long as it triggers people it'll be a fun ride :D
WriterMaru
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 18:18:21
April 23 2017 18:16 GMT
#15989
Do we have any tallies rather than projections? Edit: piss's link above works.

This result looks... anticlimactic. No real shakeup of worth, just Macron vs Le Pen. And Macron will win this one, do poorly, and we'll be right back here in another election cycle.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
April 23 2017 18:16 GMT
#15990
On April 24 2017 03:15 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:14 Clonester wrote:
On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote:
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare


You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian.

Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism.

LOL, her social program is to deport foreigners, the rest is blabla to catch the lower classes


Thats still closer then Macron.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
nitram
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada5412 Posts
April 23 2017 18:17 GMT
#15991
On April 24 2017 03:14 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote:
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare


You can still vote for Le Pen and get a moscovian.

Her social programm is closer to Melenchon then Macron is to Melenchon. You just have to deal with the racism.

Racism = Taking care of your own.
Typical german mentality.
These sites might be of more use than a StarCraft site, where the majority of posters look on WCIII as the dense misformed fetus produced during Blizzards latest miscarrige.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 23 2017 18:19 GMT
#15992
i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:19 GMT
#15993
On April 24 2017 03:16 LegalLord wrote:
Do we have any tallies rather than projections?

This result looks... anticlimactic. No real shakeup of worth, just Macron vs Le Pen. And Macron will win this one, do poorly, and we'll be right back here in another election cycle.

The ruling class succeded with its coup, they managed to bomb the population with their marketing product and get him auto-elected because of the comfortable devil
It's a nightmare
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 23 2017 18:20 GMT
#15994
On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote:
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare (in all relativity at least) :>


Is that worse than Le Pen? :D
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
April 23 2017 18:20 GMT
#15995
I'd almost hope Le Pen wins the run-off purely out of spite towards Goldman Sachs Macron voters.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 18:21:36
April 23 2017 18:21 GMT
#15996
On April 24 2017 03:20 Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:12 Makro wrote:
france is gonna have macron, the biggest atlantist since sarkozy as a president

this is a fucking nightmare (in all relativity at least) :>


Is that worse than Le Pen? :D

i don't know she never went in office, but we already got a atlantist therefore so there is that

trump ready to buy some sweet french gold
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
TL+ Member
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:23 GMT
#15997
On April 24 2017 03:19 Makro wrote:
i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience

Yeah, it's my only source of solace. It's 1969 all over again, the social-democracy dying in disgrace and dishonor, and preventing a more radical left to reach the second round
warding
Profile Joined August 2005
Portugal2394 Posts
April 23 2017 18:24 GMT
#15998
On April 24 2017 03:23 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:19 Makro wrote:
i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience

Yeah, it's my only source of solace. It's 1969 all over again, the social-democracy dying in disgrace and dishonor, and preventing a more radical left to reach the second round

Can't you guys do your crazy radical left experiments without having to leave the EU? It would make me a little bit less nervous watching French elections that way...
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
April 23 2017 18:26 GMT
#15999
Looking in detail on the French system, why is this election such a big deal? The president isn't that as powerful as it might seem from the uproar about the elections. He isn't even a head of the government, he has to name a prime minister to be approved my the majority in the parliament. In fact his powers aren't that much bigger than those of the Czech president and here this post is largely considered symbolical (even though the latest holder has shown some pretty creative ways to abuse the powers for actual influence).
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9252 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 18:27:05
April 23 2017 18:26 GMT
#16000
On April 24 2017 03:24 warding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:23 TheDwf wrote:
On April 24 2017 03:19 Makro wrote:
i have to say that watching the downfall of the PS is quite glorious and an enjoyable experience

Yeah, it's my only source of solace. It's 1969 all over again, the social-democracy dying in disgrace and dishonor, and preventing a more radical left to reach the second round

Can't you guys do your crazy radical left experiments without having to leave the EU? It would make me a little bit less nervous watching French elections that way...


Can't do crazy radical left experiments in the common market, would probably violate one of the economic freedoms
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