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Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 17:54:48
April 23 2017 17:50 GMT
#15961
On April 24 2017 02:48 LegalLord wrote:
Actual results within the next hour, yes?


10 minutes

The longest 10 minute of my life
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
April 23 2017 17:57 GMT
#15962
2nd place is going to be really close I guess. I hope Le Pen doesn't make it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 23 2017 17:59 GMT
#15963
On April 24 2017 02:48 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 02:37 Big J wrote:
On April 24 2017 01:41 bardtown wrote:
On April 24 2017 01:37 Big J wrote:
On April 24 2017 01:32 bardtown wrote:
On April 24 2017 01:29 Big J wrote:
On April 24 2017 01:19 Shield wrote:
It's difficult probably, but it's a necessary step. Uncontrolled immigration from countries which don't share EU principles and democracy is highly undesirable in my opinion. Also, calling economic migrants "refugees" is such a stupid concept that only left wing can come up with it. Sure, Syrians aren't economic migrants, but they're not the only ones that the EU calls refugees. E.g. Afghanistan, Iran, etc.

Then pay it for yourself. It's always the same bullshit, when it's something I care for like free education, health care, pensions etc. right-wingers want to liberalize it, when it's something they care for like more law and order bullshit they want to keep it in state hand and increase spending and then tell me it's in my best interest. No it's not. I don't give a fuck about terrorism that causes less casualities than free roaming cows and I don't give a fuck about whether people run into a church or a mosque.

Uh, they actually have some vigilantes doing border patrols in eastern Europe. I think it's safe to say you don't really want more of that.

I don't live anywhere there, so why should I care or pay. Am I doing this RIGHT, huehuehue?

If you were a nationalist, maybe. But you're not, so the onus is on you to find solutions to problems that arise as a result of your superstate ambitions.


Newsflash, there are people who don't picture themselves as some form of slave to a metaphysical state or nation-concept.

Doesn't that make it a nation of people not picturing themselves as some form of slave to a metaphysical state or nation-concept then?


I think the word you are looking for is ideology. A state is a internationally accepted concept of land, people and international recognition of government. A nation, as far as I understand it, some near-religious concept of people that by some greater historicistic force share a fate.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:02 GMT
#15964
RIP France
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
April 23 2017 18:05 GMT
#15965
Super boring results since the website depuis1958 predicted this outcome with a probability of 90%+.
Whatever, the next French president will be super young
WriterMaru
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
April 23 2017 18:05 GMT
#15966
Why? This was the expected result and given that Macron beat Le Pen in the first round it's almost impossible for her to win the 2nd.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:06 GMT
#15967
Ipsos:

Emmanuel Macron : 23,7 %
Marine Le Pen : 21,7 %
François Fillon : 19,5 %
Jean-Luc Mélenchon : 19,5 %
Benoît Hamon : 6,2 %
Nicolas Dupont-Aignan : 5 %
Jean Lassalle 1,5 %
Philippe Poutou 1,2 %
François Asselineau 0,8 %
Nathalie Arthaud 0,7%
Jacques Cheminade : 0,2 %
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 23 2017 18:06 GMT
#15968
Yeah, hopefully he beats her again.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 18:07:55
April 23 2017 18:07 GMT
#15969
End of the world as we learned to know is posponed as it seems.
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:07 GMT
#15970
The PS once again killed the left... 2 fucking percent...
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-23 18:10:28
April 23 2017 18:08 GMT
#15971
Mélanchon and Fillion speech today are gonna be essential, Fillion will almost surely not say to vote for anyone, but Mélanchon could put his support behind Macron but I am not sure he is gonna do it.

Dupont-Agnant being so high is surprising to me, I wonder if his partisan are gonna go to Le Pen, he probably stole the second place to Filion to be honest (well Filion fail himself, but the support for the right his strong).
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 23 2017 18:08 GMT
#15972
What's PS?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18271 Posts
April 23 2017 18:08 GMT
#15973
What's the error margin on those polls? They're still close enough that any one of the top 4 could be first or second.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:08 GMT
#15974
On April 24 2017 03:08 Shield wrote:
What's PS?

The bunch of traitors that our social-democrats are
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
April 23 2017 18:09 GMT
#15975
On April 24 2017 03:08 Shield wrote:
What's PS?

Socialist Party, Hamon/Hollande.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18271 Posts
April 23 2017 18:10 GMT
#15976
On April 24 2017 03:08 Nakajin wrote:
Mélanchon and Fillion speech today are gonna be essential, Fillion will almost surely not say to vote for anyone, but Mélanchon could put his support behind Macron but I am not sure he is gonna do it.

Dupont-Agnant being so high is surprising to me, I wonder if his partisan are gonna go to Le Pen.

Why would Melenchon throw in with Macron? He seems to despise neoliberalism, which is what Macron personifies.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
April 23 2017 18:10 GMT
#15977
On April 24 2017 03:07 TheDwf wrote:
The PS once again killed the left... 2 fucking percent...

Wouldn't Melenchon be a bad president anyways? :o
WriterMaru
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
April 23 2017 18:11 GMT
#15978
On April 24 2017 03:08 Nakajin wrote:
Mélanchon and Fillion speech today are gonna be essential, Fillion will almost surely not say to vote for anyone, but Mélanchon could put his support behind Macron but I am not sure he is gonna do it.

Dupont-Agnant being so high is surprising to me, I wonder if his partisan are gonna go to Le Pen.

Half of them could
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
April 23 2017 18:11 GMT
#15979
On April 24 2017 03:10 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2017 03:08 Nakajin wrote:
Mélanchon and Fillion speech today are gonna be essential, Fillion will almost surely not say to vote for anyone, but Mélanchon could put his support behind Macron but I am not sure he is gonna do it.

Dupont-Agnant being so high is surprising to me, I wonder if his partisan are gonna go to Le Pen.

Why would Melenchon throw in with Macron? He seems to despise neoliberalism, which is what Macron personifies.


Well I mean, he is still the lesser evil for him.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
April 23 2017 18:12 GMT
#15980
poutou did more than asselineau, this is ridiculous lol
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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