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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
October 23 2013 22:23 GMT
#21
I agree a lot with OP. Especially with the 4 reasons. When I was super addicted to video games I can directly relate to all of those feelings. ESP 2-4.
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
October 23 2013 22:26 GMT
#22
I wonder though how much video game activity is ok. Because isn't it all a waste a time in the long run anyway?

Like some games I definitely just wasted countless hours playing. Starcraft I wasted a lot of time but it also led me to poker which led me to going places I never went before and meeting people I've never met. So I don't reall regret that at least.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 10:02:51
October 23 2013 22:28 GMT
#23
I read this guys blog a few years back. He sounds like one of those life motivators who make money tricking people into thinking that his advice is helping them. Here it is by the way:
http://kingpinlifestyle.com/how-to-quit-playing-video-games/

His advice wasn't really any better for me. I didn't find anything I wanted to spend my time doing at home. Getting a hobby like making toothpick sculptures is just as unproductive as gaming. Not too relevant, but he looks like a scumbag the way he wears his hat, which instantly makes me not trust him.


In my freshmen year of college and for a few years in high school I played a lot of games. There was a huge part of me that didn't really want to but other parts rationalized it. And once I got started I didn't stop for hours on end. My life suffered quite a bit. I went to counselors at school and talked on Olganon and tried 50+ time management tricks and tools. And then I met a girl that I liked in second year. I stopped playing almost cold turkey after that. More of that in one of my blogs.

Since then I've realized that being a gamer is who I am. I've had some problem days but it's never gotten so bad that I've found myself gaming till 5am on a school night again. I think I can say it's gotten better every year.


In the end you have to be ok with what you do. There are definitely pro gamers who play games all day and they are happy with their lifestyle and they make enough money for now. Perhaps that will change for them in the future or perhaps they'll make enough they can retire. They'll deal with the future when they get to it, but for now they're happy with spending more time than I did on games.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 22:56:18
October 23 2013 22:28 GMT
#24
On October 24 2013 07:26 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
I wonder though how much video game activity is ok.
As much as you can without it eating into other activities you want/need to do.

Because isn't it all a waste a time in the long run anyway?
Time you enjoyed wasting isn't wasted time.

We've managed to start a discussion about terminology when the speaker specifically tried to avoid that discussion by tackling the practical problem from a practical standpoint. Don't rush back to the Greek roots of such and such words when it detracts from the actual issues that the actual people are actually having.
The thing is that talking about video game addiction is detracting from the actual issues. You get 'addicted' to video games because you are lonely and have no friends, because you are bullied and do not like going out, because you have social anxiety, you are depressed, have no motivation, etc. Those underlying problems should be addressed, trying to quit video games is useless as fuck because the void that they filled up will still be there.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 23 2013 22:50 GMT
#25
On October 24 2013 06:57 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Problem with video games is they are fucking great value for money, really easy to do (no need to travel, drive etc.) and more fun than a lot of other things out there.

Think about it: you could go to a random club, have some crappy drinks (mark up baby), maybe get drunk or stay in, buy some proper drinks (premium spirits and craft beer woop woop) and go shoot shit up on a space station etc.

It's a ridiculously good way to escape from the doldrums of most places.

I have met so many people that work so hard for their job/school and struggle to face each day because they hate it. No thx.


People struggling for their job/school who hate it are in the wrong career. Unfortunately it's really hard finding the perfect career path to pursue that you enjoy. But it's really easy to find games that you enjoy too. That doesn't mean working hard can't be fulfilling.
StatixEx
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 23:05:48
October 23 2013 23:03 GMT
#26
Ive posted about this before and was the basis of my software programming and engineering degree, its a really interesting thing to look into but for me i concluded its a load of old bollocks and its something in the end you grow out of. just hear me out if you can be arsed

most of us in here are hard core gamers, you cant get addicted to video games . .you just really really REALLY like to play them. Take video games away from someone and nothing will happen, take any other addicting thing (being careful to not go onto drugs and the like here) and the body shuts down and people have died through the with draw. you cant get addicted to video games, the word needs replacing and i can almost guarantee video games can be replaced by something else where as this new thing becomes addicting.

eg, my life, i play games every single day, have done for over 27 years now, i feel im addicted to them and the gf and friends say i am, so, when i go for a holiday for 3 weeks and dont play a single one . . well nothing happened. Last month i joined the gym as i want to compete in a triathlon, i never played a game for a couple of weeks . . nothing happened to me, BUT when i smoked 60 cigs a day i simply couldnt quit for years, when i finally overcame it the transformation my body went through hurt and the craving i went through and stupid shit i did to stop just not going for a cig, i think back now was just plain ridiculous and i feel a fool . . but i couldnt believe what my mind and body was doing to me . . . it was something you cant imagine if youve never been addicted. no you cant get addicted to video games you just really Really REALLY like playing them and dont really want to stop. Addiction to me became to mean something the body thinks it simply cant live without, games im afraid could be replaced by anything. I told you to give up games and you could be an f1 driver (insert thing you really really want to be here) and wallah . . .you just stopped with no side affects or withdraw
Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 23:10:24
October 23 2013 23:08 GMT
#27
On October 24 2013 06:57 MoonfireSpam wrote:
Problem with video games is they are fucking great value for money, really easy to do (no need to travel, drive etc.) and more fun than a lot of other things out there.

Think about it: you could go to a random club, have some crappy drinks (mark up baby), maybe get drunk or stay in, buy some proper drinks (premium spirits and craft beer woop woop) and go shoot shit up on a space station etc.

It's a ridiculously good way to escape from the doldrums of most places.

I have met so many people that work so hard for their job/school and struggle to face each day because they hate it. No thx.


Spot on. This is why I play. Cheap entertainment in the comfort of my own home. Throw in a few beers, and you have a great night/weekend.

EDIT: I won't deny that the good "night" has occasionally turned into a whole week bender though.... sad but true. Does that count as addiction?
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KT_Perry
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)71 Posts
October 23 2013 23:09 GMT
#28
I think if you have a small idle segment of life you can just be consumed in to video games. There was a phase where I had no hobby, passion or dream and I just put every moment of enthusiasm, happiness or want right in to video games.

Around 14-15 years old.
;)
KT_Perry
Profile Joined October 2013
Korea (South)71 Posts
October 23 2013 23:15 GMT
#29
Also there is a small phenomenon with video games. They came up rather quick and recent in history and its one of those things that are extremely interesting and major, yet they just casual became part of life and casually became one of the biggest industries.

All the obvious things about video games are all the things that need to be looked at with a little more respect, fear, w/e.

They're entertainment value is just absolutely insane, it's a new world and art that's growing rapidly.

Also they're kinda of an extension of sports and playfulness.

People love to play, whether it's real sports, small sports, games they make, board games, outside activities, small quirky ways of playing with one another at any age. Video games are a new extension of that global trait in humans.

;)
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10135 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-23 23:22:59
October 23 2013 23:22 GMT
#30
Oh, i would totally want to discuss about how oversaturated we are nowadays with accessible entertainement options, so younger people can get distracted really easilly from more important matters.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 00:04:56
October 24 2013 00:02 GMT
#31
On October 24 2013 07:26 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
I wonder though how much video game activity is ok. Because isn't it all a waste a time in the long run anyway? .

exactly. Unless if the said hobby gets you girls / money. Then it's thought of as a "passion." It's all a load of labeling nonsense
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
October 24 2013 00:04 GMT
#32
Do I have book addiction. I often find myself more likely to stay up all night reading a book in one sitting then playing a game..maybe I just haven't found a game more compelling then my imagination? Or I am just the oddity..
*shrug* I dunno I am not too worried about these kinds of things, I am sure they are important in some grand scale and yeah I am sure people have taken some things too far in there personal habbits but what else is new? People have been screwing there lives up over too much booze,drugs, entertainment,debauchery etc for as long as man has had the ability to do something besides sleep and work.

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biology]major
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2253 Posts
October 24 2013 00:10 GMT
#33
video games are a double edged sword. Momentary fun but you are hurting yourself in the long run. I invested alot of time into video games, and I regret some of it because in the end I could have developed more as a person doing other things. I don't really play online stuff too much anymore, and found that happy balance but wish I could have done that years ago. Although getting GM was the only thing that made it worth it for me.
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NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
October 24 2013 00:52 GMT
#34
It's really no different from gambling, Some people can enjoy themselves a great weekend in vegas or atlantic city. some people best stay away from that shit unless they wanna lose their home, marriage, job etc.
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aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 02:17:16
October 24 2013 02:13 GMT
#35
I believe this talk was horrible and pointless. I don't like the fact that he says he wants people to stop playing videogames because he failed at whatever he was doing and is using them as an excuse. I could also say that games did so much good to my life that they should be promoted as a school activity to teach better problem solving, communication and social skills. So who's right?
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rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 24 2013 04:43 GMT
#36
On October 24 2013 11:13 aTnClouD wrote:
I believe this talk was horrible and pointless. I don't like the fact that he says he wants people to stop playing videogames because he failed at whatever he was doing and is using them as an excuse. I could also say that games did so much good to my life that they should be promoted as a school activity to teach better problem solving, communication and social skills. So who's right?


He never said people should stop playing video games.
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
October 24 2013 09:12 GMT
#37
On October 24 2013 13:43 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 11:13 aTnClouD wrote:
I believe this talk was horrible and pointless. I don't like the fact that he says he wants people to stop playing videogames because he failed at whatever he was doing and is using them as an excuse. I could also say that games did so much good to my life that they should be promoted as a school activity to teach better problem solving, communication and social skills. So who's right?


He never said people should stop playing video games.

He implied multiple times videogames are bad and that's the message he was trying to convey in the whole thing.
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Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
October 24 2013 09:27 GMT
#38
On October 24 2013 11:13 aTnClouD wrote:
I believe this talk was horrible and pointless. I don't like the fact that he says he wants people to stop playing videogames because he failed at whatever he was doing and is using them as an excuse. I could also say that games did so much good to my life that they should be promoted as a school activity to teach better problem solving, communication and social skills. So who's right?


Pretty much this, thankfully there's a stronger push for them in the classroom than against from what I've seen. I'm actually doing my thesis right now on Minecraft in education (when I'm not procrastinating by playing games).
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-24 10:00:11
October 24 2013 09:35 GMT
#39
On October 24 2013 13:43 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2013 11:13 aTnClouD wrote:
I believe this talk was horrible and pointless. I don't like the fact that he says he wants people to stop playing videogames because he failed at whatever he was doing and is using them as an excuse. I could also say that games did so much good to my life that they should be promoted as a school activity to teach better problem solving, communication and social skills. So who's right?


He never said people should stop playing video games.

His blog post is a guide to quit playing video games forever.

He does state it's only for people who want to quit forever though.

My problem with a lot of Ted talks is how everyone is so accepting of whatever the speaker says. The applause from your peers serves to make you want to fit in so you agree with them. It almost feels like a brainwashing session. I know that attending Ted talks is voluntary, but then again so is joining a cult.

Ted isn't a cult. But I just can't shake the feeling. I feel like the people who enjoy Ted, while not "weak", had a childhood where they were bullied or at least weren't popular and had to find solace in being smart or at least different. They like hearing about research and discussing ideas. They like to think they work to improve the world and that money isn't their primary incentive.

I guess I'm not the only person who feels this way either:
http://www.newstatesman.com/martin-robbins/2012/09/trouble-ted-talks
https://www.google.ca/search?q=is ted a cult&oq=is ted a cult

The more you watch Ted, the less you're able to disagree wtih Ted because your beliefs are changed by the things that you hear regardless of whether you agree with them.



If this were a Starcraft Ted talk, you'd hear how bogus what he's saying really is. The speaker is not preaching divine truth. He's trying to turn a profit. Addiction is a serious illness and you don't beat it by picking up a guitar and saying "I'll just play guitar from now on instead of gaming" like he did in his blog. You need outside help.

More examples of Ted being like a cult.
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Ironically on a Ted talk about cults.
http://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think.html
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
October 24 2013 11:15 GMT
#40
On October 24 2013 09:52 NIJ wrote:
It's really no different from gambling, Some people can enjoy themselves a great weekend in vegas or atlantic city. some people best stay away from that shit unless they wanna lose their home, marriage, job etc.


NO, video games are totally different compared to gambling. I am sorry, but you have no idea what are you talking about.
As some people here said, you can't get mentally addicted to video games. I have played games since i was a kid and i have never felt addicted to them. I could quit any day and stay without playing for as long as i wished. At age 18-22 i hardly played any games at all as i was busy with other things that time more important for me. I don't think you can become addicted to gaming. You just do it because you have nothing more fun or better to do (or you are lazy to study or work so you play instead), whereas addiction is somethng you must do or you feel many symptoms that drive you crazy.
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