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Adila
United States874 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10856 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:37 insectoceanx wrote: This is fun, I'm a federal employee, right now we cannot do our work, we have to be at the office, and we are not getting paid. Aside from the "not getting paid" this sounds like a total breakdown of the computer system at my place... | ||
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:07 Orek wrote: "Impossible n'est pas français." -Napoléon Bonaparte "Compromise n'est pas american politics." -US politicians what does this mean? | ||
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GrimZeRo
United States113 Posts
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:37 insectoceanx wrote: This is fun, I'm a federal employee, right now we cannot do our work, we have to be at the office, and we are not getting paid. Wait what? Why do you have to be at the office? | ||
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LittleRedBoy
United States229 Posts
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ThomasjServo
15244 Posts
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Doublemint
Austria8725 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:55 LittleRedBoy wrote: A government shutdown really isn't a big deal in my opinion. I doubt I'm going to notice anything at all to be honest. Yeah, well it's not like the american economy is shaky even without the government shutdown. And the financial industry LOVES the uncertainty political instability and all the fun that comes with it - like slowing economic recovery all around the world! And oh boy oh boy, your politicians look like grown ups who can solve the great problems that are ahead of them. But I guess you are right. Business as usual. | ||
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Kevin_Sorbo
Canada3217 Posts
-impossible isnt french -N.B. - compromise isnt american politics - US politicians. way to get screwed by the dudes you empowered by voting for them. also it baffles me to see americans refusing universal healthcare. I cant figure why you would not want it. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:02 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: -impossible isnt french -N.B. - compromise isnt american politics - US politicians. way to get screwed by the dudes you empowered by voting for them. also it baffles me to see americans refusing universal healthcare. I cant figure why you would not want it. I want the healthcare. I just don't want our government to have their hands on that money. Social Security was/is a great idea, unless you can take from the fund to invest in 2 very popular wars and never pay back that loan.... On October 02 2013 00:01 Doublemint wrote: Yeah, well it's not like the american economy is shaky even without the government shutdown. And the financial industry LOVES the uncertainty political instability and all the fun that comes with it - like slowing economic recovery all around the world! And oh boy oh boy, your politicians look like grown ups who can solve the great problems that are ahead of them. But I guess you are right. Business as usual. You mock, but this is the average american response or worse "what is a government shut down are we going to be without power"? | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8725 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:05 NoobSkills wrote: I want the healthcare. I just don't want our government to have their hands on that money. Social Security was/is a great idea, unless you can take from the fund to invest in 2 very popular wars and never pay back that loan.... You mock, but this is the average american response or worse "what is a government shut down are we going to be without power"? Well then there's quite a problem in the greatest nation and democracy in the world. | ||
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Rockafella
United Kingdom291 Posts
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riyanme
Philippines940 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:02 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: -impossible isnt french -N.B. - compromise isnt american politics - US politicians. way to get screwed by the dudes you empowered by voting for them. also it baffles me to see americans refusing universal healthcare. I cant figure why you would not want it. thanks... im not american so i dont get the real issue here... like as he said, why would anyone not want a health care? as a foreinger who doesn't know the obama care... what are the cons? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22132 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:14 riyanme wrote: thanks... im not american so i dont get the real issue here... like as he said, why would anyone not want a health care? as a foreinger who doesn't know the obama care... what are the cons? For a lot of people it comes down to the follow, "I have said aside money for my health, why should i pay for people who didnt" Sadly it is these very seem people you fail to understand that a serious injury can easy cost you 10k+ dollars and if you really catch sometimes bad 100k isnt even unlikely. A single average person can never cover himself in the case of serious illness but they blindly think they can stand on there own legs in all situation and that anyone who cant quite literally deserves to die for it. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On October 01 2013 23:55 LittleRedBoy wrote: A government shutdown really isn't a big deal in my opinion. I doubt I'm going to notice anything at all to be honest. It's a big deal because the debt limit is only a couple weeks away. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1603 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:14 riyanme wrote: thanks... im not american so i dont get the real issue here... like as he said, why would anyone not want a health care? as a foreinger who doesn't know the obama care... what are the cons? I don't think anyone would have an issue with health care, but most have an issue with our government handling it. Money just fucking disappears after we pay our taxes. Also the plan really isn't the greatest, but it could be a good start if the money actually went where it was supposed to. | ||
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Adila
United States874 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:18 Gorsameth wrote: For a lot of people it comes down to the follow, "I have said aside money for my health, why should i pay for people who didnt" Sadly it is these very seem people you fail to understand that a serious injury can easy cost you 10k+ dollars and if you really catch sometimes bad 100k isnt even unlikely. A single average person can never cover himself in the case of serious illness but they blindly think they can stand on there own legs in all situation and that anyone who cant quite literally deserves to die for it. They also fail to understand that our health system does not allow uninsured people to die without treating them. Emergency room costs are ridiculously high compared to going to see a doctor elsewhere. This raises costs for the insured people since the money to pay for the uninsured has to come from somewhere. Unless they are willing to let people go untreated if they can't afford it, then health insurance should be mandatory and, in my opinion, being personally responsible to yourself and those around you. | ||
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jellyjello
Korea (South)664 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:02 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: -impossible isnt french -N.B. - compromise isnt american politics - US politicians. way to get screwed by the dudes you empowered by voting for them. also it baffles me to see americans refusing universal healthcare. I cant figure why you would not want it. I've seen how the universal healthcare works - my wife has been on it, and after all those years of mistreatment I simply cannot trust it anymore. This sounds like a cliche to some, but living in overseas for so many years made me realize all the little things we've always bitched about were actually awesome compared to what I have now. | ||
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Mercy13
United States718 Posts
On October 02 2013 00:14 riyanme wrote: thanks... im not american so i dont get the real issue here... like as he said, why would anyone not want a health care? as a foreinger who doesn't know the obama care... what are the cons? The main criticisms with merit that I have heard are: 1. The government cannot afford the subsidies that will be required for poor people to buy insurance on the exchanges. 2. The medical device tax (intended to help pay for those subsidies, along with other costs of the ACA) will hurt manufacturers and cause the US to lose jobs overseas. 3. The ACA requires small business owners with over a certain number of employees to provide health insurance for those employees. This may cost small businesses a lot, and they will hire fewer people as a result. Personally, I think these concerns are valid, and the ACA should be amended to address them. However, causing a shut down and threatening a default are tactics that are reckless and immoral, so I'm with the Dems on this one. | ||
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