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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On March 21 2019 02:01 Sent. wrote: An extension would mean a few more months of keeping the UK in the single market. Why not? It would also mean a few more months of market uncertainty and withheld investment. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22628 Posts
On March 21 2019 02:01 Sent. wrote: Markets hate uncertainty. An extension without a clear sight of a solution is more damage to everyone's economy for no gain. Sometimes its better to rip off the bandage and be done with it.An extension would mean a few more months of keeping the UK in the single market. Why not? | ||
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pmh
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Short delay also does not seem likely. Parliament has to show intent for agreeing on the deal, a deal they voted down twice with overwhelming majority already. Long delay then,i don't think it can solve all that much but its still a delay and any delay is welcome for both parties. Maybe eventually there will be a situation in which a 2nd referendum or straight up cancelling the brexit becomes a viable alternative for britisch politicians. A French politician named her cat brexit. Apearently the cat is very indecisive. The cat scratches at the door indicating it wants to go out,but then when she opens the door the cat runs back from the door inside again. Then after closing the door the cat comes at the door again scratching. When she then finally places the cat outside the cat looks angry at her for kicking her out. | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
Some have responded with humour. Nathalie Loiseau, France’s Europe minister, said recently that if she had one, she would call her cat Brexit: “It wakes me up miaowing because it wants to go out. When I open the door, its sits there, undecided. Then it looks daggers at me when I put it out.” | ||
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m4ini
4215 Posts
Best example why the last two and a half years were a shitshow, and would've been a shitshow under Corbyn too. He's as petty, as tiny, as pathetic as they come in british politics. Nine fucking days before the cliff edge and he walks out because something (well, the fact that a certain group was present) upset him. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Great leader this. Hell, at this point, make Bercow PM. At least the shitshow would be charming. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22628 Posts
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Neneu
Norway492 Posts
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
On March 21 2019 05:09 Gorsameth wrote: There is still a decent chance for withdraw but I don't know if it can get through Parliament. barely any conservatives will support revoking and Labour front bench is against so it won't happen. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10000 Posts
They don't know how to do their respective jobs. | ||
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Neneu
Norway492 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22628 Posts
On March 21 2019 05:13 Jockmcplop wrote: May's past exploits aside I think she has done what she can with a useless situation.I hope Corbyn and May both resign soon. They don't know how to do their respective jobs. There exists no deal that can get through Parliament, she tried the only deal she could get from the EU twice. Doing anything else is going against the people's will (stupid tho the people are). Its lose-lose-lose no matter what way you turn. | ||
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pmh
1416 Posts
And I hope may stays in power,because without her it will become a complete chaos. -no deal -current deal -revoke brexit That are about the only options I can see,if anyone sees something else feel free to add. They have talked about this for 2 years,whats any delay gonna do more then just being a further delay without prospect for a good solution. I think revoke is the most likely outcome in the end,but the timing is difficult. The cat story made the news here (on the sidelines) , it was brought up as if it was true. I found it kinda funny,thats why I did post it. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10000 Posts
On March 21 2019 05:28 Gorsameth wrote: May's past exploits aside I think she has done what she can with a useless situation. There exists no deal that can get through Parliament, she tried the only deal she could get from the EU twice. Doing anything else is going against the people's will (stupid tho the people are). Its lose-lose-lose no matter what way you turn. Yes but she could have started the process of trying to get agreement from Parliament 2 years ago instead of 2 months ago and everything would have been much less stupid. There was no plan, and no plan to start planning. This lasted until around 90 days before Brexit. You're wrong about May, and wrong about her government. The level of incompetence and arrogance they have displayed is shocking and the biggest factor in the mess we are in now is her decision to keep delaying the important discussions for over 2 years. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22628 Posts
On March 21 2019 05:32 Jockmcplop wrote: What has Parliament agreed on?Yes but she could have started the process of trying to get agreement from Parliament 2 years ago instead of 2 months ago and everything would have been much less stupid. There was no plan, and no plan to start planning. This lasted until around 90 days before Brexit. You're wrong about May, and wrong about her government. The level of incompetence and arrogance they have displayed is shocking and the biggest factor in the mess we are in now is her decision to keep delaying the important discussions for over 2 years. Only that it doesn't agree on anything. If May went to Parliament 2 years ago to get there opinion the process would be in the exact same place it is now because there is no majority for any deal in Parliament that can also pass in the EU, which is not to say she shouldn't have done that and that it was a mistake to not consult them after it became clear any deal needed to be approved by Parliament. I'm not saying she has done amazing or even good. But I'm not going to blame the one person willing to actually do something at all while everyone stands on the sidelines shouting how bad she is and how much better they would do without actually doing anything. The only plan the opposition came forward with , that I know of, is Corbyn's "Lets not really have a Brexit at all" and that came out last month? | ||
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Slydie
2010 Posts
On March 21 2019 05:32 Jockmcplop wrote: Yes but she could have started the process of trying to get agreement from Parliament 2 years ago instead of 2 months ago and everything would have been much less stupid. There was no plan, and no plan to start planning. This lasted until around 90 days before Brexit. You're wrong about May, and wrong about her government. The level of incompetence and arrogance they have displayed is shocking and the biggest factor in the mess we are in now is her decision to keep delaying the important discussions for over 2 years. You are talking like she had all the time in the world to put her deal together, and plenty of opportunities to consult her obviously dysfunctional parlament along the way. Many doubted she would get any kind of sensible deal on the table at all with the time she had in her hands. The biggest factor is that Brexit is an awful idea, but the Brits still voted for it, probably blinded by a distant past as a superpower. | ||
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Zaros
United Kingdom3692 Posts
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