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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 04:03:54
May 07 2013 03:55 GMT
#301
On May 07 2013 12:19 targ wrote:
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On May 07 2013 08:06 AsnSensation wrote:
Just watched the movie, overall really enjoyed since I'm not going into the first big blockbuster of the year expecting a super complex movie with no plot holes etc. Just enjoy it as an action movie with superb animations and the epic one liners of RDJ already make the 12€ I paid for it worth :D

While I watched pretty much every superhero movie of the last decade I gotta admit I'm not really knowledgable when it comes to the comics so maybe someone can explain me abit more about the whole villain thing since I didn't really get man-thing concept. What exactly did the biology girl and killean create there and why can they destroy Stark's suit by only touching it with super heat or even slice through it like it was butter while a punch of a god like Thore barely puts a dent into his suit :D



Yea I was wondering this too, normal humans with some virus injected can beat Stark's armor in hand-to-hand? Seems ridiculous to me when it can fight on even footing with Thor (at least for a while). Don't tell me the Extremis virus makes humans even stronger than Asgardians?


You guys have to remember that some of Stark's armors are not meant for combat such as the suborbital armor, disaster rescue armor, hyper velocity armor, etc. If anything, some of the armors might not even complete yet besides the constructed build. We start off the movie with Stark testing out the Mark 42 and the new technology he implemented in the armor, so we can assume that he shifted focus on that. In one scene, the Mark 42 armor was being locked up below in the hall of armors, and if you look closely, some of the armors are not yet complete.

As for Iron Man fighting almost on par with Thor, I interpret it as Thor going easy on Iron Man and not having the intention of killing him. Thor did look like he wanted to end the fight now before Captain America intervene. Then again, it could have been that Robert Downey Jr. didn't want to lose the fight, so he complained to Joss Whedon to make the fight look even =P

On May 07 2013 12:47 SayGen wrote:
At the very end of the movie past the credits there is extra footage

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who is the Dr, and what is his purpose?



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That is Bruce Banner (Hulk). His hair is shorter than it was in The Avengers, which is why some couldn't recognize him,
WilDMousE
Profile Joined July 2011
Chile1335 Posts
May 07 2013 04:14 GMT
#302
On May 04 2013 17:38 -Archangel- wrote:
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On May 04 2013 14:37 WilDMousE wrote:
The last fight scene felt so uninspired and bland, like I was totally amazed on the + Show Spoiler +
part were pepper "died", I was like "woah, srs shit going on, possibly more character development finally! at the cost of another sequel..." then nope, she was alive DEUS EX MACHINAE, the entire movie was filled with that :'c

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unless you slept through the movie and woke up at that scene it was obvious she didn't die from that. The extremis exposed humans survived worse through the movie.

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but the movie explicitly showed people blowing up due to the injection of the extremis, thus creating the posibility of her dying on the inestability after she fell to the ground... I was expecting a bit more interesting stuff rather than a deus ex machinae that made every kid happy
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Qwyn
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 04:21:24
May 07 2013 04:20 GMT
#303
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I was under the impression that the human bombs were due to an overdose of extremis?


Awesome movie, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and personally, it was my favorite of the series.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 07 2013 04:33 GMT
#304
On May 07 2013 13:20 Qwyn wrote:
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I was under the impression that the human bombs were due to an overdose of extremis?


Awesome movie, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and personally, it was my favorite of the series.


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That, and everyone takes the Extremis dosage differently. Like that one soldier, whose body didn't accept it, so he blew up.
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
May 07 2013 11:45 GMT
#305
I enjoyed that movie. I already watched the Avengers so I knew what to expect. I found the Avengers incredibly silly (in an entertaining way) with the last 30 minutes being non stop action. No wonder Ironman gets panic attacks from that experience! I found that quite funny.

and i find those super dark and gritty super hero movies like batman really really tiring. I cant take that seriously. I fell asleep while watching the last one. I rather like it if the movie isnt too serious about all the silly action.
Its just a movie where you dont question realism or plot holes. You just go with it, its a thin facade meant to entertain. Nothing more. You dont scratch and ask stupid questions because there are only stupid answers.

Its a diverting movie. And well.. i could care less if it is true to the original comics. I think themes like anonymity and proxying are fitting more into the zeitgeist than just copying the themes from 50 years ago.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 07 2013 11:48 GMT
#306
A fun and amusing movie for sure. RDJ continues to deliver.

Yet, the avid Marvel fan in me can't accept how they scripted the Mandarin. Feels like such a farce. That aside, I enjoyed myself. Not as good as 1 but better than 2. The ending seemed rather closed-ended. Makes you wonder if there's going to be a 4.
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Abominous
Profile Joined March 2013
Croatia1625 Posts
May 07 2013 11:56 GMT
#307
I was bothered at first, but now that I think about it, it was a good movie. 6-7/10.

Batman trilogy really set the bar high concerning the serious villains and stuff which I doubt Marvel could keep up with.
smr
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 12:05:12
May 07 2013 12:02 GMT
#308
On May 07 2013 20:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
A fun and amusing movie for sure. RDJ continues to deliver.

Yet, the avid Marvel fan in me can't accept how they scripted the Mandarin. Feels like such a farce. That aside, I enjoyed myself. Not as good as 1 but better than 2.


I loved the Mandarin. + Show Spoiler +
The guy with the beard.


The ending seemed rather closed-ended. Makes you wonder if there's going to be a 4.

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It said: "Tony Stark will return" at the end. Hope it was not a lie


Saw the movie yesterday and enjoyed it alot. Was awesome to read "Ponytail Express" in the credits. Sadly not enough Pepper. Just sad I couldn't watch the english version in 2d. A lot of the scenes felt like shit in 3d. It's just not mine but I couldn't choose this time.

edit: movie was a winner when the first song started. set me into the right mood.
Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 07:59:33
May 08 2013 05:08 GMT
#309
About to watch Iron man 3, pretty fucking excited thats for sure!

it was fucking awesome. enough said.
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ElMeanYo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 05:25:46
May 08 2013 05:25 GMT
#310
On May 08 2013 14:08 Adrian_mx wrote:
About to watch Iron man 3, pretty fucking excited thats for sure!


Good movie if you are not an anal-retentive comic book nerd or super serious movie critic. RDJ gets to show off Stark's cleverness outside of his suit-tinkering, which I liked. Bad-guy was a written a little weak and his motivation wasn't really believable for the actions he did, but I do like + Show Spoiler +
Guy Pierce
so that made up for it.

The ending made me wonder if...

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... the Pepper Pots character wouldn't maybe end up as a super-hero herself with these extremis powers. Yea Stark said he was going to fix her but did we actually see that happen? At the very least he should make a suit for Pepper and train her how to use it so he wouldn't have to worry about her safety all the time.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 08 2013 13:40 GMT
#311
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I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
May 08 2013 13:45 GMT
#312
How in the world did they fuck up the best villain in Iron Man lore, so bad? Huge waste of Kingsley's talent as well as the character.
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Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-08 19:53:31
May 08 2013 19:52 GMT
#313
On May 08 2013 22:45 Telcontar wrote:
How in the world did they fuck up the best villain in Iron Man lore, so bad? Huge waste of Kingsley's talent as well as the character.


I refuse to believe that Killian was the real Mandarin.

I'm going to give these producers the benefit of the doubt here and assume there is some bigger over arching story around here...like Killian was the one manipulated the entire time.

I still liked the movie but yea the way they did Mandarin made my popcorn taste bad. They did make Tony Stark show his cleverness in the rest of his life though and I do like seeing seriously flawed main characters work through their shit. It was certainly a good movie in that regard.

but the Mandarin >>>>>>><<<<<<
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flexgd
Profile Joined September 2011
183 Posts
May 08 2013 21:19 GMT
#314
dat product placement though...at the scene where the "oracle cloud" found something i was just facepalming at this...boldness
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
May 08 2013 21:21 GMT
#315
I watched this movie last night, and it was great! Best action out of the 3 movies, but I still like the first one best. I was a bit disappointed that the Mandarin wasn't the real Mandarin, but I hope we get to see the real one in a future movie.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 08 2013 21:27 GMT
#316
On May 08 2013 22:40 NB wrote:
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I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen.


I love this
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 08 2013 22:03 GMT
#317
On May 09 2013 06:27 AsnSensation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 08 2013 22:40 NB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen.


I love this


That's so convoluted though, haha. Not sure if even that would salvage the Mandarin storyline.
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
May 09 2013 05:00 GMT
#318
On May 09 2013 07:03 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2013 06:27 AsnSensation wrote:
On May 08 2013 22:40 NB wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen.


I love this


That's so convoluted though, haha. Not sure if even that would salvage the Mandarin storyline.

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To be honest, you could write a lot of fancy twisted plot using the power of the 10 rings alone. I think it came down to what do the writers want to do with The Mandarin personality. Could he be so willing to teach Iron Man a lesson and dip that low into such character as Trevor the actor? What interested me was the moment where his tone change after Tony Stark got knocked out in his bedroom. Its not Trevor's voice but Mandarin's who were speaking after being questioned "What did you tell him?". On Reddit they also brought up some speculation around how Trevor gave the vice president some clues over the phone call(?), i didnt read much into it but it seems totally plausible.

A lot of people did raised a question, if Trevor is the real Mandarin, why did he acted like Trevor while he didnt know that Tony Stark was in the room. Personally i think it could either be him spotting Stark over his bathroom and changed into his character OR he was really committing to the plot that he set up. I think the key point of the scene where Trevor and Stark met for the first time, however, were how Trevor were mentioning Fortune cookies to the prostitutes. I think that has something to do with the deep personal background of the Mandarin and only the real one could be using such reference naturally.


I personally hope that they could develop a sequel base on these clues the gave out this movie. I know having a 4th movie in the series might risk ruining the image of the entire series but so far the 3rd one was really well done and there isnt really any reason to stop here.
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 14 2013 22:14 GMT
#319
It was bound to happen eventually lol.

Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 12:58:29
May 15 2013 10:50 GMT
#320
Enjoyed the movie, was grossed out by the super duper happy "let's just stop doing/being everything that made Ironman Ironman" end in the last 5 minutes.
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