pepper wasn't "fixed" off the extremis like they mentioned at the end. Would have made for a much more interesting character.
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
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Alakaslam
United States17324 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:38 GenesisX wrote: Just watched it today. Thought it would have been more interesting if + Show Spoiler + pepper wasn't "fixed" off the extremis like they mentioned at the end. Would have made for a much more interesting character. Same(I walked out of the theater when you posted), it's a great movie! | ||
RowdierBob
Australia12800 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + a) The Mandarin: wtf were his motivations? I thought his character was pretty unoriginal and bland. The writers seemed to go with the whole anti-America thing which I though was a bit lazy and cliched. I never really got why the Mandarin hated the world so much. I thought it was a tad disappointing that the audience never really got to learn much about the Mandarin and just had to accept he was a crazy guy who hated America (fill me in if I'm wrong here). b) Wtf is with the death scenes? Killian can survive being blown up in Stark's Iron Man suit yet like 10 seconds later Potts blows him up herself. How do you kill the Extremis guys anyway? Why did they all turn into crazy zealots with the orange stuff in them but Pepper seems unaffected? I'm overthinking it too much ![]() | ||
Brett
Australia3820 Posts
On May 20 2013 11:32 RowdierBob wrote: I liked this movie, but thought it was let down in a couple of areas: + Show Spoiler + a) The Mandarin: wtf were his motivations? I thought his character was pretty unoriginal and bland. The writers seemed to go with the whole anti-America thing which I though was a bit lazy and cliched. I never really got why the Mandarin hated the world so much. I thought it was a tad disappointing that the audience never really got to learn much about the Mandarin and just had to accept he was a crazy guy who hated America (fill me in if I'm wrong here). b) Wtf is with the death scenes? Killian can survive being blown up in Stark's Iron Man suit yet like 10 seconds later Potts blows him up herself. How do you kill the Extremis guys anyway? Why did they all turn into crazy zealots with the orange stuff in them but Pepper seems unaffected? I'm overthinking it too much ![]() I'm a bit confused... Did you miss the whole + Show Spoiler + Mandarin is a puppet created for the sole purpose of misdirection | ||
RowdierBob
Australia12800 Posts
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
On May 20 2013 12:05 RowdierBob wrote: No I got that--it would be hard to miss ![]() Killian Ah yes, well + Show Spoiler + I pretty much assumed it was because Killian was the down-trodden, spurned, and despised nerd-type who had been trying to catch a break for years, and when Tony stood him up, it was simply the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. The anti-US sentiment seemed to be a poor excuse for a cover story for his Extremis test failures, which as you know had a tendency to explode. Weak explanations, I know, but expected from this movie type. You might find IGN's article on IM3 interesting given your thoughts on the movie :D http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/05/20/the-ultimate-iron-man-3-faq | ||
JeYKaY
United States73 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Also, thoroughly enjoyed: + Show Spoiler + The conglomeration of major Iron Man villains without being too in your face. MODOK references with AIM and the "big brain", Fin Fang Foom with the dragon tattoos and firebreathing, and of course Mandarin. Definitely gave a feeling of a closing of the Iron Man franchise, though. Not that I'd mind, it's good to know they're willing to end a movie series before it's milked to death. On May 20 2013 12:05 RowdierBob wrote: No I got that--it would be hard to miss ![]() Killian + Show Spoiler + Killian had absolutely no anti-America or anti-World sentiments. He created a plot to cover-up all of the Extremis failures, and the easiest story for chain bombings is a terrorist group. His entire scheme basically was to develop bio-enhancement tech and then sell it to receive recognition and fame. Everything else was made up entirely on the fly based on all of the accidents, with several shifts in the plan when Iron Man and the military started to intervene. The only reason he wanted to kill the President was that the Vice-President was his monetary benefactor. | ||
Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
Regarding the ending, massive spoilers: + Show Spoiler + I hate that they decided to give this such a final ending that involved the end of Iron Man. Does that mean we will have an Avengers II without him? That would suck donkey dongs... | ||
AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert | ||
aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
I watched Star Trek a couple of days later and that movie is 10 times better than Iron Man 3. | ||
Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? | ||
kwizach
3658 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. | ||
Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:17 Meow-Meow wrote: The way they showed Mandarin was the coolest, most unexpected way to portray a super villain, ever. Regarding the ending, massive spoilers: + Show Spoiler + I hate that they decided to give this such a final ending that involved the end of Iron Man. Does that mean we will have an Avengers II without him? That would suck donkey dongs... + Show Spoiler + I think I read somewhere that Robert Downey Jr. didn't want to play the Iron man character anymore so that is probably the reason for the ending/doubt he will be in avengers | ||
Maxd11
United States680 Posts
Iron Man will return. (Did not specify when/the movie) Also if I remember correctly EDJ said in an interview that he might return as ironman if the contract negotiations worked out. I don't think it's quite safe to say that he won't be back as iron man or not yet. One thing that bothered me was + Show Spoiler + Tony had to have the (painful) injections for the mark 42 to latch onto him and he told Rhodie that the suit was only marked for him but he was able to send the suit right onto Pepper and Killian with no advanced notice. Okay maybe Pepper had the injections as well at some point(I don't remember how the injections were timed in accordance to the attack on his mansion)? But Killian certainly didn't. | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 24 2013 07:03 Maxd11 wrote: Wow I am dissapointed in my fellow Marvel fans in this thread. Did none of you watch the scene after the credits and the message after it? + Show Spoiler + Iron Man will return. (Did not specify when/the movie) Also if I remember correctly EDJ said in an interview that he might return as ironman if the contract negotiations worked out. I don't think it's quite safe to say that he won't be back as iron man or not yet. One thing that bothered me was + Show Spoiler + Tony had to have the (painful) injections for the mark 42 to latch onto him and he told Rhodie that the suit was only marked for him but he was able to send the suit right onto Pepper and Killian with no advanced notice. Okay maybe Pepper had the injections as well at some point(I don't remember how the injections were timed in accordance to the attack on his mansion)? But Killian certainly didn't. + Show Spoiler + The Injections were remote controls. Hence why he points at Pepper and Killian to send the suit to them. They were needed to put the suit on, not use the suit. | ||
NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On May 24 2013 08:16 WolfintheSheep wrote: + Show Spoiler + The Injections were remote controls. Hence why he points at Pepper and Killian to send the suit to them. They were needed to put the suit on, not use the suit. + Show Spoiler + Which, combined with the idea of the extremis program in the movie, would obviously lead into the "i don't need to make a suit to wear I CAN HAVE IT INSIDE ME AND COME OUT", hence, the end of the "traditional" iron man suit he had been using. not the end of iron man. | ||
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