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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300854/
April 2013
The plot is unknown at this time.
Rumor has it Tony Stark/Iron Man will head to China
to face his toughest opponent, Mandarin.
WTFWTFWTFWTFWHATTHEBLOODYFUCK!
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yOngKIN
Korea (North)656 Posts
![]() http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1300854/ April 2013 The plot is unknown at this time. Rumor has it Tony Stark/Iron Man will head to China to face his toughest opponent, Mandarin. WTFWTFWTFWTFWHATTHEBLOODYFUCK! | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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NeWeNiyaLord
Norway2474 Posts
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Azurues
Malaysia5612 Posts
and iron man fan should be able to answer, what was the name of the new looking suit? | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
On October 23 2012 20:36 Azurues wrote: this is bloody awesome trailer. looks like a lot of unexpected events will happen and iron man fan should be able to answer, what was the name of the new looking suit? the one with the american colours and a rectangle core/heart thing, looks like the one from number 2 with that huge gun thing on its back, thats been spray painted and gotten a new core. I have no idea what its called but than again im not those deep iron man fans | ||
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Wpcwe
Russian Federation126 Posts
it's really amazing! | ||
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Rezudox
207 Posts
Still really looking forward to it and The Avengers 2 though. | ||
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Corvi
Germany1406 Posts
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yOngKIN
Korea (North)656 Posts
On October 23 2012 20:36 Azurues wrote: this is bloody awesome trailer. looks like a lot of unexpected events will happen and iron man fan should be able to answer, what was the name of the new looking suit? Mark XLVII, yes 47. Don't ask what happened to the last 40+ armors. Even Iron Man won't tell. The story is from "The Extremis" obviously, I hope they change a bit of Mandarin's final power | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9031 Posts
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MVega
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Clarity_nl
Netherlands6826 Posts
On October 23 2012 20:57 MVega wrote: Wow. That's an awesome trailer. I thought 2 was kind of mehhhhh and so I wasn't looking forward to 3 all that much, but now I'm intrigued. Iron Man 2 was a glorified Avengers trailer. Still awesome. =] "Heroes.... There is no such thing." | ||
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divito
Canada1213 Posts
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L3g3nd_
New Zealand10461 Posts
On October 23 2012 21:03 Clarity_nl wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 20:57 MVega wrote: Wow. That's an awesome trailer. I thought 2 was kind of mehhhhh and so I wasn't looking forward to 3 all that much, but now I'm intrigued. Iron Man 2 was a glorified Avengers trailer. Still awesome. =] "Heroes.... There is no such thing." idk, robert downy jr + technology + fighting = good movie | ||
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Micro_Jackson
Germany2002 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45060 Posts
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mellitus
Singapore137 Posts
Looking forward to it. Definitely. Especially since its tying in so much with the aftermath of the Avengers. Makes me wonder though, when Tony is in so much shit, are the other heroes not even gonna give a whisper of help? Its Ironman3, not Avengers 2, but still, they did forge quite a team :/ | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Ironman falling to the ocean? Can't he just fly out from that? Man that was such a tease at the end there. | ||
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
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czaku
Poland429 Posts
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SoulReaver306
Australia210 Posts
On October 23 2012 21:17 FakeDeath wrote: What happened at the end of trailer? Ironman falling to the ocean? Can't he just fly out from that? Man that was such a tease at the end there. I think there was a noose around his neck. So he was being dragged down by the wreckage. That's what it looked like to me anyway. | ||
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Kznn
Brazil9072 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
IronMan 1 was pretty cool, Iron Man 2 was terrible, terrible fights, now Iron Man 3 T_T looks just generic | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
Tbh if you take a step back and think of "Iron Man" or "Superman" just as names, they also sound rather cheesy to me. And yes, I think we have seen many better trailers than this one in the recent past, but I'm confident the real momie will be better and I will certainly still watch it. | ||
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ydeer1993
United Kingdom569 Posts
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SwizzY
United States1549 Posts
Seeing as how there is a soft spot in my skull for comic book movies, I basically can't past this one up for anything. I like how they are expanding on Stark's love for Pepper Potts too. Always felt like their interactions in past movies were pretty great. | ||
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
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electronic voyeur
United States133 Posts
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Meteo Rain
Finland98 Posts
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Rescawen
Finland1028 Posts
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are always busy. All of them, pretty much all the time. | ||
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Brutaxilos
United States2630 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:00 Rescawen wrote: im really unimpressed about mandarin, his is literally white TT. Like they could have hired a yellow dude. Maybe they didnt want to cauz ironman would have followed the esports trend and lost to the yellow dude xD It's worse than that. Ben Kingsly is half Indian I believe. If a minority, why not the proper minority. T___T Anyways, I felt like this trailer wasn't too impressive. | ||
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electronic voyeur
United States133 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:08 h41fgod wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are always busy. All of them, pretty much all the time. How can they have not solved all the problems yet when they have the strongest most durable thing in the universe and a demigod on their side. | ||
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Rebornlife
Canada224 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:11 electronic voyeur wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 00:08 h41fgod wrote: On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are always busy. All of them, pretty much all the time. How can they have not solved all the problems yet when they have the strongest most durable thing in the universe and a demigod on their side. Yeah I don't get how they can go about making the single superhero movies after the avengers... I mean how hard is it to pick up a phone and get a few of em together to solve a problem? | ||
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Wetty
Australia419 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
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neggro
United States591 Posts
The shitty adult in me says this is corporations milking the shit out of idiot fanboys. Child wins. | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On October 23 2012 23:31 Torte de Lini wrote: People actually think this is cool? It looks God awful and the villain has a hilarious cheesy name: GO TO CHINA, FIND MANDARIN IronMan 1 was pretty cool, Iron Man 2 was terrible, terrible fights, now Iron Man 3 T_T looks just generic I agree, but Robert Downey jr does such a good job at playing Iron man i have to go see it. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:27 neggro wrote: The child in me wants to watch this. The shitty adult in me says this is corporations milking the shit out of idiot fanboys. Child wins. ya it's shitty action movie with next to zero plot but who cares? the actors are good and shit blows up. Therefore it's entertaining Compared to the garbage hollywood is putting out in the recent years, i'd definitely consider Iron Man above average. | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
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gedatsu
1286 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:19 Rebornlife wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 00:11 electronic voyeur wrote: On October 24 2012 00:08 h41fgod wrote: On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are always busy. All of them, pretty much all the time. How can they have not solved all the problems yet when they have the strongest most durable thing in the universe and a demigod on their side. Yeah I don't get how they can go about making the single superhero movies after the avengers... I mean how hard is it to pick up a phone and get a few of em together to solve a problem? Well, Thor lives in space, and Hulk actively tries not to be found. So I imagine those two might be a bit hard to call. What is a valid point, however, is that they could have called Warmachine during the Avengers. I'm thinking he would have been a bigger help than Scarlett's | ||
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neggro
United States591 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:36 gedatsu wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 00:19 Rebornlife wrote: On October 24 2012 00:11 electronic voyeur wrote: On October 24 2012 00:08 h41fgod wrote: On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are always busy. All of them, pretty much all the time. How can they have not solved all the problems yet when they have the strongest most durable thing in the universe and a demigod on their side. Yeah I don't get how they can go about making the single superhero movies after the avengers... I mean how hard is it to pick up a phone and get a few of em together to solve a problem? Well, Thor lives in space, and Hulk actively tries not to be found. So I imagine those two might be a bit hard to call. What is a valid point, however, is that they could have called Warmachine during the Avengers. I'm thinking he would have been a bigger help than Scarlett's I'd pay to see Scarlett's ass over Warmachine any day. | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
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Setev
Malaysia390 Posts
On October 23 2012 20:52 yOngKIN wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 20:36 Azurues wrote: this is bloody awesome trailer. looks like a lot of unexpected events will happen and iron man fan should be able to answer, what was the name of the new looking suit? Mark XLVII, yes 47. Don't ask what happened to the last 40+ armors. Even Iron Man won't tell. The story is from "The Extremis" obviously, I hope they change a bit of Mandarin's final power The Extremis? Wow, but... + Show Spoiler + is Extremis armour the one that can be absorbed into Tony's bloodstream? Doesn't look like it is flows out of Tony's pores though, only flew and attached to him magnetically (as shown in the trailer) | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:11 electronic voyeur wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 00:08 h41fgod wrote: On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are always busy. All of them, pretty much all the time. How can they have not solved all the problems yet when they have the strongest most durable thing in the universe and a demigod on their side. That's why wonder woman will never cease to confuse me. She comes from an island full of these warrior amazon chicks, must be hundreds at least. She leaves for the modern world and occasinally runs into something even stronger and nastier than she is, shit happens. Couldn't she just get a few dozen more of her amazon buddies and mop the floor with whatever is acting up? It's like if superman had his whole extended family here on earth, but refused to ever ask any of them for help even if he needed it. | ||
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Venomsflame
United States613 Posts
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Butterednuts
United States859 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On October 23 2012 20:38 Shock710 wrote: hmm..would have thought the Mandarin would be played by a chinese guy, or at least an asian. It also seems less about the tasks set to collect the 10 rings (which give the mandarin his powers iirc) and more about fighting and stopping whatever the mandarin is doing Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 20:36 Azurues wrote: this is bloody awesome trailer. looks like a lot of unexpected events will happen and iron man fan should be able to answer, what was the name of the new looking suit? the one with the american colours and a rectangle core/heart thing, looks like the one from number 2 with that huge gun thing on its back, thats been spray painted and gotten a new core. I have no idea what its called but than again im not those deep iron man fans War Machine I'm pretty stoked, because unlike the common internet hate that people bring up about 'call his buddies!', it's a comic book, like in every comic book that happens before and after assembly type storylines. They're busy, they're not on good terms, they can't be found, Tony doesn't like playing with others, etc. Shit they bombarded his fucking house while he was asleep, sure guys, stop dropping nukes on my house, while i call up my buddies okay? 1 sec. hello? cap? where you at? oh on a mission, nm. Hulk? hey buddy you there? no no no don't smash the phone, don't!... sigh, anyone seen thor? oh he's off ruling asgard, well shit. guess i better call up asswoman i mean scarlett johanneson and arrow boy. wait, nm this guy just obliterated my entire arsenal and has some OP 10 rings, they'll probably just get killed. face it, the protagonist hero in MOST storylines, not only doesn't want to be helped, but feels they could endanger others if they get others involved. 'this is my fight' sort of bravado. It happens. don't use your self contained common sense on these archetype heroes. I knew Mandarin would be his ultimate villain to end his trilogy, but i was hoping it'd have been an actual asian guy, but i guess if they went with james hong or something he'd end up looking like lo pan from big trouble haha. god I wonder how this'll pan out. I was so excited when I saw him retrieve his armor remotely. One of the best things in the comics and cartoons was watching how he evolved the suit over time, originally having to manually suit up, and having attachments float out to him to adjust to different climates/etc, and then his inferno armor that was charged up in heat/sun. Even the suitcase suit he had in part 2 was fucking amazing and made me reminisce about the childhood cartoons I watched. Glad to see this movie continuing that tradition. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 23 2012 21:17 FakeDeath wrote: What happened at the end of trailer? Ironman falling to the ocean? Can't he just fly out from that? Man that was such a tease at the end there. The failing into the ocean thing was more about Pepper being in the house too when it exploded and trying to get to her while pieces of the house are falling on Ironman and dragging him down and looked like a piece of bent rebar caught around his neck. | ||
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DownOnMyNiece
Germany155 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:22 Butterednuts wrote: I honestly didn't even know there was an Iron Man 2. Neither did I, but I liked the first one so the second and third are being pirated as soon as there is a DVD-release. Watching 2 tonight. User was warned for this post | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 23 2012 23:57 electronic voyeur wrote: I'm not impressed to be honest. Why not summon the Hulk or Thor? Or all of the Avengers. This doesn't make sense at all. They are busy filming their own movies and getting ready for Avengers 2 | ||
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Saechiis
Netherlands4989 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:22 Butterednuts wrote: I honestly didn't even know there was an Iron Man 2. There isn't, brrrrr. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:47 NotSorry wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 21:17 FakeDeath wrote: What happened at the end of trailer? Ironman falling to the ocean? Can't he just fly out from that? Man that was such a tease at the end there. The failing into the ocean thing was more about Pepper being in the house too when it exploded and trying to get to her while pieces of the house are falling on Ironman and dragging him down. Actually it's hard to see, but there's a steel wire that's wrapped around his neck dragging him down. | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 24 2012 01:53 Kazeyonoma wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 01:47 NotSorry wrote: On October 23 2012 21:17 FakeDeath wrote: What happened at the end of trailer? Ironman falling to the ocean? Can't he just fly out from that? Man that was such a tease at the end there. The failing into the ocean thing was more about Pepper being in the house too when it exploded and trying to get to her while pieces of the house are falling on Ironman and dragging him down. Actually it's hard to see, but there's a steel wire that's wrapped around his neck dragging him down. wasn't sure if I saw that right the first time or not | ||
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TurboMaN
Germany925 Posts
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onyxdragoon
United States18 Posts
That is if everything in the trailer happens in order. | ||
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speknek
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Kenny_oro
Germany368 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:47 neggro wrote: I'd pay to see Scarlett's ass over Warmachine any day. Who wouldn't? | ||
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Sanctimonius
United Kingdom861 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:31 speknek wrote: I wish that he didn't build that robot/suit in a cave in a random country with some fucking scrap metal in Iron Man 1, that ruined everything for me. I understand that it's scifi etc, but c'mon. It's pretty much the same origin story from the comics, though the time and place changed. I mean, it is a comic book film, a little suspension of belief is kinda demanded. Looking good, and I'm hoping it lives up to the first two (well, one, the second was merely ok, though Sam Rockwell is awesome), and it's looking like Tony is drawing attention that a sharp wit can't save him from. Interesting that they went with the Mandarin - I saw some interviews saying that since they've had the Thor stories they think magic storylines are more acceptable to the general public, so they won't be some kind of tech. I do wonder if Rhodes will fully become Warmachine - another character for the Avengers? And will Hank Pym be making an appearance, or will he be saved for the Avengers 2...? | ||
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Magic_Mike
United States542 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() He doesn't really look Asian to me in these pictures. But it doesn't really matter. Sometimes the right person for the job doesn't exist. Kingpin was white but Michael Clark Duncan was probably still the best person for the job. | ||
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speknek
758 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:55 Sanctimonius wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 03:31 speknek wrote: I wish that he didn't build that robot/suit in a cave in a random country with some fucking scrap metal in Iron Man 1, that ruined everything for me. I understand that it's scifi etc, but c'mon. It's pretty much the same origin story from the comics, though the time and place changed. I mean, it is a comic book film, a little suspension of belief is kinda demanded. Yeah like I said, I understand that it's a comic and it's supposed to be fiction and I don't mind the guy flying around in his suit and shooting lasers from his hands. It's just that building the thing in a random cave is ridiculous on a different level. I think it's kind of plausible that with enough technological advancement people could some day make a suit like that and fly around, which makes it an acceptable story overall for me. However, a guy building that in a cave is 0% plausible :D. I'll still watch the movie, though, can't resist the mancrush on robert downey jr :3 | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:01 speknek wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 03:55 Sanctimonius wrote: On October 24 2012 03:31 speknek wrote: I wish that he didn't build that robot/suit in a cave in a random country with some fucking scrap metal in Iron Man 1, that ruined everything for me. I understand that it's scifi etc, but c'mon. It's pretty much the same origin story from the comics, though the time and place changed. I mean, it is a comic book film, a little suspension of belief is kinda demanded. Yeah like I said, I understand that it's a comic and it's supposed to be fiction and I don't mind the guy flying around in his suit and shooting lasers from his hands. It's just that building the thing in a random cave is ridiculous on a different level. I think it's kind of plausible that with enough technological advancement people could some day make a suit like that and fly around, which makes it an acceptable story overall for me. However, a guy building that in a cave is 0% plausible :D. I'll still watch the movie, though, can't resist the mancrush on robert downey jr :3 Welding a bunch of metal plates into a suit and strapping a flame thrower and rocket on it is 0% plausible? The original suit he built wasn't couldn't fly around like jets (it fell apart after rocketing away just one time) or shoot lasers out of his hands. | ||
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Artifex Magnus
United States75 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:26 onyxdragoon wrote: I don't think that is Iron Man falling into the water. Earlier in the trailer you can see Tony with some something around his head and a suit behind him already turned on. Later, you see the suit grab Pepper while Tony is sleeping. After the explosion on his home, I don't think he had enough time to put on a suit and I think it's the other suit with it's own AI/Tony's conscience. That is if everything in the trailer happens in order. The suit grabbing pepper seems like a nightmare that Tony's having, cause it's highly unlikely a suit could walk into his room without him waking up and knowing about it. But your idea seems cool too =D | ||
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-NegativeZero-
United States2142 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:01 speknek wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 03:55 Sanctimonius wrote: On October 24 2012 03:31 speknek wrote: I wish that he didn't build that robot/suit in a cave in a random country with some fucking scrap metal in Iron Man 1, that ruined everything for me. I understand that it's scifi etc, but c'mon. It's pretty much the same origin story from the comics, though the time and place changed. I mean, it is a comic book film, a little suspension of belief is kinda demanded. Yeah like I said, I understand that it's a comic and it's supposed to be fiction and I don't mind the guy flying around in his suit and shooting lasers from his hands. It's just that building the thing in a random cave is ridiculous on a different level. I think it's kind of plausible that with enough technological advancement people could some day make a suit like that and fly around, which makes it an acceptable story overall for me. However, a guy building that in a cave is 0% plausible :D. I'll still watch the movie, though, can't resist the mancrush on robert downey jr :3 1) the guy practically has a superpower of building unrealistically awesome tech 2) they did provide him with all the necessary equipment to make missiles/missile launchers, it wasn't really just "A BOX OF SCRAPS" like everyone thinks 3)the original suit was pretty low-tech compared to the others, its main weapon was big metal fists (plus an ordinary flamethrower) | ||
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On October 24 2012 03:31 speknek wrote: I wish that he didn't build that robot/suit in a cave in a random country with some fucking scrap metal in Iron Man 1, that ruined everything for me. I understand that it's scifi etc, but c'mon. Wasn't just scrap metal, it was everything needed to make the world's most advance missile. | ||
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:00 Magic_Mike wrote: + Show Spoiler + Don't understand all the complaints about Mandarin. Looks like Mandarin to me. He's only supposed to be half-asian with the other half being British I think. I've know plenty of people who are half-black but in appearance are all white. ![]() ![]() ![]() He doesn't really look Asian to me in these pictures. But it doesn't really matter. Sometimes the right person for the job doesn't exist. Kingpin was white but Michael Clark Duncan was probably still the best person for the job. Those are newer versions of Mandarin to modernize his look. I think what most of us fanbois remember are: ![]() ![]() | ||
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gedatsu
1286 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:00 Magic_Mike wrote: Don't understand all the complaints about Mandarin. Looks like Mandarin to me. He's only supposed to be half-asian with the other half being British I think. I've know plenty of people who are half-black but in appearance are all white. Fun fact: Ben Kingsley is half Asian and part-but-maybe-not-half British. So he fits! | ||
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zdfgucker
China594 Posts
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x-Catalyst
United States921 Posts
I love Iron Man, probably TOO much. So I can't even begin to explain my excitement about this, or even my excitement after I watched the second movie, that there was a third one on the way too. OMG. :D | ||
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
If they wanted to dodge the whole super natural ability / magic aspect of the villain since it never works as well in motion picture format than it does in comics why not just pick a villain better suited for the modern age Ironman to deal with. Oh well gotta wait to see if they actually do something interesting with it, I sure hope so. | ||
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Obscure
United States272 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:19 Caihead wrote: Well, I don't get why they are even bringing back this villain if they are just giving him the same schtick as the other villains. See the reason why mandarin was ironman's main villain from the beginning was that they had completely contrasting abilities and ideologies, ironman was all about technology and conquering problems with advanced weaponry and ingenuity, and mandarin was all about magic and the super natural. It was probably the only reason why he even worked as a villain. Same with how spiderman's villains were just a side show to what social / personal problems they would impose on peter parker. If they wanted to dodge the whole super natural ability / magic aspect of the villain since it never works as well in motion picture format than it does in comics why not just pick a villain better suited for the modern age Ironman to deal with. They won't dodge Mandarin's abilities. Marvel waited for Thor and Avengers to introduce magic and the supernatural into the their cinematic universe. The audience is generally comfortable with it now and make no mistake, Mandarin will have his ten rings of power and there will be pew pew. Marvel knows what they are doing and I have confidence, especially with Shane Black writing and directing, that this will be the best Iron Man yet. Phase 2 will be a lot of fun. | ||
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
On October 24 2012 04:08 NotSorry wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 03:31 speknek wrote: I wish that he didn't build that robot/suit in a cave in a random country with some fucking scrap metal in Iron Man 1, that ruined everything for me. I understand that it's scifi etc, but c'mon. Wasn't just scrap metal, it was everything needed to make the world's most advance missile. And all the hydraulics used to make the aiming and launching thingy (lol) LOOKS EPIC! | ||
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seiferoth10
3362 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37044 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
On October 24 2012 05:05 Obscure wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 04:19 Caihead wrote: Well, I don't get why they are even bringing back this villain if they are just giving him the same schtick as the other villains. See the reason why mandarin was ironman's main villain from the beginning was that they had completely contrasting abilities and ideologies, ironman was all about technology and conquering problems with advanced weaponry and ingenuity, and mandarin was all about magic and the super natural. It was probably the only reason why he even worked as a villain. Same with how spiderman's villains were just a side show to what social / personal problems they would impose on peter parker. If they wanted to dodge the whole super natural ability / magic aspect of the villain since it never works as well in motion picture format than it does in comics why not just pick a villain better suited for the modern age Ironman to deal with. They won't dodge Mandarin's abilities. Marvel waited for Thor and Avengers to introduce magic and the supernatural into the their cinematic universe. The audience is generally comfortable with it now and make no mistake, Mandarin will have his ten rings of power and there will be pew pew. Marvel knows what they are doing and I have confidence, especially with Shane Black writing and directing, that this will be the best Iron Man yet. Phase 2 will be a lot of fun. Don't forget that the Mandarin's rings aren't actually 'magical' by nature. He finds them after discovering an ancient alien's spacecraft, and they were used as the powersource to fly the ship. He discovers their individual powers by training with them, but is basically technology based, just out of this world technology that is beyond the understanding of humans. He himself, believes that technology is the true means to which he can achieve his goals, and often, while using his rings, manipulates the latest technology to destroy things. So claiming that he's all magic and tony is all tech is technically wrong. Mandarin just uses his for personal gain to try to take over the world for all of the wrong that occured to him growing up, while Stark uses it for good, to protect those he feels deserves protecting. | ||
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RodrigoX
United States645 Posts
I also wouldn't be surprised if they incorporate the storyline of the Iron Man suit(s) becoming self aware. | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On October 24 2012 00:58 Setev wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 20:52 yOngKIN wrote: On October 23 2012 20:36 Azurues wrote: this is bloody awesome trailer. looks like a lot of unexpected events will happen and iron man fan should be able to answer, what was the name of the new looking suit? Mark XLVII, yes 47. Don't ask what happened to the last 40+ armors. Even Iron Man won't tell. The story is from "The Extremis" obviously, I hope they change a bit of Mandarin's final power The Extremis? Wow, but... + Show Spoiler + is Extremis armour the one that can be absorbed into Tony's bloodstream? Doesn't look like it is flows out of Tony's pores though, only flew and attached to him magnetically (as shown in the trailer) + Show Spoiler + The armor that you're thinking of is the Bleeding Edge Armor, which is the one that is stored entirely inside his body. With the Extremis Armor, only the first layer(s) of armor is stored inside his bones, allowing him to have a telepathic/technopathic link with his Iron Man suit. Trailer looks great! Super hyped for this already. | ||
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
On October 23 2012 20:56 Garnet wrote: Mandarin? what a name lol. u never saw the cartoons ? | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
Defently a must see for me. Tony Stark ( Robert Downey Jr. ) - coolest charakter ever. He's like a ![]() | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Carson
Canada820 Posts
On October 23 2012 23:41 Mafe wrote: I wonder how many people will read "mandarin" and think of fruits. Tbh if you take a step back and think of "Iron Man" or "Superman" just as names, they also sound rather cheesy to me. And yes, I think we have seen many better trailers than this one in the recent past, but I'm confident the real momie will be better and I will certainly still watch it. haha, I wouldn't have thought of fruit. Are you thinking of Mandarin Oranges? | ||
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Kipsate
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shizaep
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
he goes overboard making too many new suits or something. throws old one away, by the looks of it buries it in the arctic. all his new ones get destroyed by the bad guy pepper pots either dies or gets captured, im guessing captured. now without his suits of fun, he must go looking for his old one, where he learns what it means to be a grown up. with his new suit, and the help of an old friend he defeats bad guy, and decides to keep using the classic suit. he bangs pepper as the screen fades to black a la bond movies. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 24 2012 10:49 turdburgler wrote: [...] now without his suits of fun, he must go looking for his old one, where he learns what it means to be a grown up. ahahahaha oh man you've ruined it, this is the plot you captured it perfectly. | ||
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LesPhoques
Canada782 Posts
Mandarin to Iron Man is similar to Joker to Batman, they are arch-enemies. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
On October 23 2012 21:31 Kznn wrote: amazing!!!!!!!!!!!! On October 23 2012 23:31 Torte de Lini wrote: People actually think this is cool? It looks God awful Amazing what strong opinions a whole two minutes can generate. Iron Man 2 was so-so, Mickey Rourke being the only redeeming element, but I will probably watch this anyway. As long as it's not as bad TDKR. | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10344 Posts
On October 24 2012 11:00 Dontkillme wrote: Isnt this the same story as last time, where Iron man faces off against another Iron man basically? I'm pretty sure that scene was just one of his "nightmares" that he was talking about in his monologue. Seems to make the most sense. Man, some of you really are not trailer-savvy. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 24 2012 11:54 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Show nested quote + On October 23 2012 23:31 Torte de Lini wrote: People actually think this is cool? It looks God awful Amazing what strong opinions a whole two minutes can generate. Iron Man 2 was so-so, Mickey Rourke being the only redeeming element, but I will probably watch this anyway. As long as it's not as bad TDKR. am i the only one who had literally forgotten the plot/existence of iron man 2? in my head it went iron man 1 > sexy ladies hanging about > SHIELD MOTHA FUCKA > avengers | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2544 Posts
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TrickyGilligan
United States641 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:05 Hyperbola wrote: What a yawnfest. It looks exactly like Iron man 1 and 2 except without the originality. Just your average superhero Hollywood movie. No need to get excited. You don't seem very familiar with comic books. Are you aware that they've been doing Iron Man comics for fifty years!? There's just not that much originality to be had in the genre, the best you can hope for is a skillful screen adaptation. | ||
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TerranosaurusWrecks
Canada187 Posts
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CutieBK
Sweden227 Posts
Hoping the movie is less 2 and more 1! | ||
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Zanulf
Spain36 Posts
When Cpt. America Died Non the less its about time they got the mandarin in a Iron man movie!! | ||
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Dakkas
2550 Posts
On October 24 2012 16:53 Zanulf wrote: Im kinda confised now, wasnt the Iron Patriot armor made as a tribute + Show Spoiler + When Cpt. America Died Non the less its about time they got the mandarin in a Iron man movie!! No, it was used by Norman Osborn when he took control of the Avengers. The red/blue/white colours are just typical symbolism as he was the leader of the Dark Avengers | ||
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IMSmooth
United States679 Posts
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Zanulf
Spain36 Posts
On October 24 2012 17:00 Dakkas wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 16:53 Zanulf wrote: Im kinda confised now, wasnt the Iron Patriot armor made as a tribute + Show Spoiler + When Cpt. America Died Non the less its about time they got the mandarin in a Iron man movie!! No, it was used by Norman Osborn when he took control of the Avengers. The red/blue/white colours are just typical symbolism as he was the leader of the Dark Avengers Thank you for the clarification on that!! Still it makes no sense that the IP armor is in this film | ||
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Australia9580 Posts
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Dekker
Germany169 Posts
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SoulReaver306
Australia210 Posts
On October 24 2012 17:11 Zanulf wrote: Show nested quote + On October 24 2012 17:00 Dakkas wrote: On October 24 2012 16:53 Zanulf wrote: Im kinda confised now, wasnt the Iron Patriot armor made as a tribute + Show Spoiler + When Cpt. America Died Non the less its about time they got the mandarin in a Iron man movie!! No, it was used by Norman Osborn when he took control of the Avengers. The red/blue/white colours are just typical symbolism as he was the leader of the Dark Avengers Thank you for the clarification on that!! Still it makes no sense that the IP armor is in this film Even though it's painted like IP, it's just War Machine. You can see Rhode's name on the chest plate. I believe it is just an aesthetic choice to make it more 'American'. I doubt it is a foreshadowing or anything. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + As almost every Marvel movie, the after credits scene for Iron Man 3 is Tony Stark traveling in space to meet up with the Guardians of the Galaxy. There is another rumor that Stark will make a short cameo in the Guardians of the Galaxy movie as well. There was a leak of an action figure that was named "Deep Space Iron Man suit" today. | ||
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + When Happy Hogan is in a vegetative state and Tony has to decide whether to put him out of his misery. If they don't, then that's fine too, I guess. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing this when it comes out. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
For me, Iron Man seemed really boring at first, and it+the sequel surprised me with how awesome they turned out to be. | ||
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zoLo
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zoLo
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
FULL THEATRICAL TRAILER LOOKS SO DAMN GOOD OMG THE WAIT TILL MAY NEVER SEEMED SO LONG ;________; | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:09 konadora wrote: http://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html "You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
I realize that this was probably a theme in the comics, but I feel like this is just going to become an excuse for this series to never end until they make 2-3 bad sequels several years down the line. | ||
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:33 wongfeihung wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 02:09 konadora wrote: http://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html "You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. Sounded like a Heath Ledger Joker type thing to me. Ledger's Joker did that a few times in TDK I believe. After reading your post though, that line definitely stood out more than it would have though. I guesssss I sawwww himmmmm comminnnnnggg lol | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:38 Gamegene wrote: It's kind of uncomfortable how quickly mass production of the Iron Men suits are moving along in-universe. I realize that this was probably a theme in the comics, but I feel like this is just going to become an excuse for this series to never end until they make 2-3 bad sequels several years down the line. The movie takes place about half a year after the events of The Avengers. Stark in Iron Man 3 is in a bad state of mind, which you see in all the available trailers and TV spots. During the gap between The Avengers and leading up to Iron Man 3, he has been busy obsessively constructing new armors. He is like the Marvel version of Batman, who has a contingency plan in case things go wrong. For example, in Iron Man 3, we see a lot of new armors including the fan favorite, Hulk Buster. Obviously, Stark constructed it in case the Hulk goes rogue. The Deep Space armor was created in case of another Chitauri or not of this planet invasion. The Godkiller armor was created from stolen blueprints of The Destroyer to counter the threat of Asgardians or any being from another realm. On March 06 2013 02:33 wongfeihung wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 02:09 konadora wrote: http://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html "You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. It's probably just for dramatic effect for the trailers. I doubt and hope he does not speak like this throughout the actual film. | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
Being a fan of the comics I can see some of the movie annoying me but not more so than releasing the trailer on yahoos shitty player. Gimmie that Youtube 1080p shit ffs! E: eh nvm, changing browsers lets me watch it HD but still -.- | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:46 zoLo wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 02:38 Gamegene wrote: It's kind of uncomfortable how quickly mass production of the Iron Men suits are moving along in-universe. I realize that this was probably a theme in the comics, but I feel like this is just going to become an excuse for this series to never end until they make 2-3 bad sequels several years down the line. The movie takes place about half a year after the events of The Avengers. Stark in Iron Man 3 is in a bad state of mind, which you see in all the available trailers and TV spots. During the gap between The Avengers and leading up to Iron Man 3, he has been busy obsessively constructing new armors. He is like the Marvel version of Batman, who has a contingency plan in case things go wrong. For example, in Iron Man 3, we see a lot of new armors including the fan favorite, Hulk Buster. Obviously, Stark constructed it in case the Hulk goes rogue. The Deep Space armor was created in case of another Chitauri or not of this planet invasion. The Godkiller armor was created from stolen blueprints of The Destroyer to counter the threat of Asgardians or any being from another realm. Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 02:33 wongfeihung wrote: On March 06 2013 02:09 konadora wrote: http://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html "You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. It's probably just for dramatic effect for the trailers. I doubt and hope he does not speak like this throughout the actual film. wait the Godkiller armor was there too? Only saw the (what I assume is, anyway) MCU version of the Extremis Armor and the Hulkbuster armor (looks pretty good btw) + Show Spoiler [A bit off-topic] + Any chance there'll be hercules btw? Remember Loki stabbed Thor on Stark tower and had Thor's blood on the dagger? | ||
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vol_
Australia1608 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:51 nomyx wrote: Why doesn't the avengers kill the mandarian? First thing I thought too when they go "where is Tony Stark?" screw that, where are the Avengers! | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:51 nomyx wrote: Why doesn't the avengers kill the mandarian? good point, dont think we saw any of the avengers in any of the trailers, did we? | ||
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OKMarius
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nomyx
United States2205 Posts
On March 06 2013 02:53 konadora wrote: good point, dont think we saw any of the avengers in any of the trailers, did we? I'm sure they'll explain it in the film Thor will be back on Asgard Hawkeye and Black Widow will be on some assignment and can't help Banner is roaming the world and can't be found in time to help / involving the hulk would make it only worse Captain America doesn't see the mandarin as big of a threat / it's personal between mandarin and iron man so he stays out of it / something else On March 06 2013 03:02 Gamegene wrote: why does superman stay out of gotham Why doesn't spider-man help batman clean up gotham? | ||
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aeroblaster
United States422 Posts
"You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. It's gonna be annoying. Like Bane all over again. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
On March 06 2013 03:07 aeroblaster wrote: Show nested quote + "You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. It's gonna be annoying. Like Bane all over again. its like movie posters being the same, glass explosions same pose.... Movie trailers do the same thing =/ Looking forward to this movie, hoping we get closer to a guardians reference in one of these marvel films though. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On March 06 2013 03:05 nomyx wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 02:53 konadora wrote: On March 06 2013 02:51 nomyx wrote: Why doesn't the avengers kill the mandarian? good point, dont think we saw any of the avengers in any of the trailers, did we? I'm sure they'll explain it in the film Thor will be back on Asgard Hawkeye and Black Widow will be on some assignment and can't help Banner is roaming the world and can't be found in time to help / involving the hulk would make it only worse Captain America doesn't see the mandarin as big of a threat / it's personal between mandarin and iron man so he stays out of it / something else Why doesn't spider-man help batman clean up gotham? Also Captain America is trying to find himself and to assimilate into the new world. Captain America 2 takes place after The Avengers, so I expect the events of his next solo movie to keep him busy. According to Kevin Feige, his explanation is Iron Man 3 doesn't feature any of the other Avengers, or Nick Fury showing up, or any of those world-blending conceits that the Phase One films had. You have to keep in mind that Iron Man 3 had been in the works for almost a year, year and a half before The Avengers was released. We're sticking to the vision for these films, and showing once again that these characters are just as interesting alone as they are together. The whole Avengers thing was such a relief & such a confirmation of Kevin Feige’s vision for this all along. As Kevin has put it, the next step after that is to bring in someone like Shane Black & – without pretending that Avengers don’t exist – find a way to go back to a kind of re-investigation of Tony’s world, which he thought would be, one, fun for the audience &, two, would rock in a different way than The Avengers. But we can’t help it; everywhere you look now in every Marvel movie there are opportunities where certain new pals of his could be useful. So they’re in the atmosphere, so to speak, but I wouldn’t expect to see them on the ground in this one. On March 06 2013 02:49 konadora wrote: Show nested quote + On March 06 2013 02:46 zoLo wrote: On March 06 2013 02:38 Gamegene wrote: It's kind of uncomfortable how quickly mass production of the Iron Men suits are moving along in-universe. I realize that this was probably a theme in the comics, but I feel like this is just going to become an excuse for this series to never end until they make 2-3 bad sequels several years down the line. The movie takes place about half a year after the events of The Avengers. Stark in Iron Man 3 is in a bad state of mind, which you see in all the available trailers and TV spots. During the gap between The Avengers and leading up to Iron Man 3, he has been busy obsessively constructing new armors. He is like the Marvel version of Batman, who has a contingency plan in case things go wrong. For example, in Iron Man 3, we see a lot of new armors including the fan favorite, Hulk Buster. Obviously, Stark constructed it in case the Hulk goes rogue. The Deep Space armor was created in case of another Chitauri or not of this planet invasion. The Godkiller armor was created from stolen blueprints of The Destroyer to counter the threat of Asgardians or any being from another realm. On March 06 2013 02:33 wongfeihung wrote: On March 06 2013 02:09 konadora wrote: http://movies.yahoo.com/video/iron-man-3-theatrical-trailer-030044893.html "You'llllll neverrrrr see meeeeee coming." Why the heck does he drag out his syllables so long? Aside from that, really stoked about this. I definitely have to see this in theaters when it comes out. It's probably just for dramatic effect for the trailers. I doubt and hope he does not speak like this throughout the actual film. wait the Godkiller armor was there too? Only saw the (what I assume is, anyway) MCU version of the Extremis Armor and the Hulkbuster armor (looks pretty good btw) + Show Spoiler [A bit off-topic] + Any chance there'll be hercules btw? Remember Loki stabbed Thor on Stark tower and had Thor's blood on the dagger? It is in a lot of leaked photos from toys and merchandising. BIG SPOILERS + Show Spoiler + Fan favorite RESCUE has a high chance of being in the movie due to the leaked listing of Stark's new armor creations. | ||
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bsdaemon
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StatixEx
United Kingdom779 Posts
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zoLo
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
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Oldfool
Australia394 Posts
Overall pretty solid movie, some nice throwbacks linking it to The Avengers and events surrounding the movie. It's an attempt at a more personal story and tony coming to terms with his experiences. Didn't like the narration, felt out of place. There was a nice scene after the credits relating to it but meh. I gave personally gave avengers an 9/10 but I reckon they tried to do a bit much in this movie, so I'll say 8/10. + Show Spoiler + Liked the direction they took with having very little "suit time" to begin with but I was getting a bit antsy towards the end...funnily enough the next 10 minutes were full on suit time so I guess I'm happy. Some nice twists which I didn't find too predictable (+ Show Spoiler + except pepper "dying", saw that one coming and the pay off was pretty cheesy, good fight sequence leading up to it, though | ||
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sniperb
Singapore148 Posts
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On April 24 2013 20:37 sniperb wrote: Just remember to stay through the credits for the usual teaser with DC movies. Correction: Marvel movies lol | ||
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Soulstice
United States288 Posts
On April 25 2013 05:39 zoLo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 24 2013 20:37 sniperb wrote: Just remember to stay through the credits for the usual teaser with DC movies. Correction: Marvel movies lol Whens DC? | ||
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kwizach
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On April 24 2013 20:37 sniperb wrote: Watched the movie too, pretty solid. Just remember to stay through the credits for the usual teaser with DC movies. No please don't that's a dick thing to do to theater people who have to clean the movie. Be a nice guy and go to www.youtube.com and watch it there ![]() | ||
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TheToaster
United States280 Posts
Also, there's a point in the trailer when hundreds of Iron Men fly up next to each other. I'd just like to point out that's completely stupid. The whole point of a super hero is to have unique abilities that are one of a kind. But if there's the possibility of multiple Iron Men, then what's the point? | ||
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Oldfool
Australia394 Posts
On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. Also, there's a point in the trailer when hundreds of Iron Men fly up next to each other. I'd just like to point out that's completely stupid. The whole point of a super hero is to have unique abilities that are one of a kind. But if there's the possibility of multiple Iron Men, then what's the point? You realise that every other iron man movie has had a second suit of some kind in it? As for that scene + Show Spoiler + the suits are controlled by Tony's AI and will only let him fly them should he choose to. | ||
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Vagabond
Scotland149 Posts
On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. Also, there's a point in the trailer when hundreds of Iron Men fly up next to each other. I'd just like to point out that's completely stupid. The whole point of a super hero is to have unique abilities that are one of a kind. But if there's the possibility of multiple Iron Men, then what's the point? + Show Spoiler + All the suits where under the controll of Jarvis, But Tony has controlled alot of Suits by himself During the Five Nightmares Comic Arc when Stanes son was attacking several Stark plants at the same time. Then again this was when he was still using Extremis. Also it was nice to see the Hulk buster suit make an apperance in the movie | ||
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Poffel
471 Posts
On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. Also, there's a point in the trailer when hundreds of Iron Men fly up next to each other. I'd just like to point out that's completely stupid. The whole point of a super hero is to have unique abilities that are one of a kind. But if there's the possibility of multiple Iron Men, then what's the point? While I agree that superhero movies are most certainly cash cows, you seem to have a quite strict view on what a superhero is supposed to be... as for the bolded statement in your post: What about Speedsters? You have "the" Flash (Barry Allen, Bart Allen, Sela Allen, every other member of the Allen-family, Wally West, ...), but you also have all the evil speedsters with basically the same skillset. You have Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Superdog, Superhorse, Bizarro, Man of Steel, Man of Tomorrow, Metropolis Kid, Last Son of Kryption... Green Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, ... Wolverine, Sabretooth, X-23, ... And not last and definitely not least, you have the whole Green Lantern corps (and all the other color-coded Lanterns). Long story short, I don't know what quality to expect from the new Iron Man movie. But the case of "multiple superhero" can hardly be called unprecedented. ![]() | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Turned into? Nowadays? What are you talking about, superhero movies have been cash cow borderline-B movies since their conception. I mean sure, the old batman and superman movies are classic, but it's still more or less the same deal. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. replace the word movie with the word comic and everything you said is still true. the source material is hardly the bible, whats wrong with just having fun seeing a movie? | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
On April 26 2013 18:17 turdburgler wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. replace the word movie with the word comic and everything you said is still true. the source material is hardly the bible, whats wrong with just having fun seeing a movie? Some people have difficulty enjoying movies for the sake of enjoying them. Everything has to have depth and character and purpose I bet The Expendables was sucked as well for a lot of people | ||
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Discarder
Philippines411 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
On April 26 2013 18:22 Discarder wrote: I LOL'ed at that mandarin character... It was pretty hilarious. The movie is pretty solid. The tone of the movie is more serious compared to the previous films. | ||
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konadora
Singapore66357 Posts
Also... why did Tony remove the shrapnels T__T + Show Spoiler [easter eggs] + did anyone spot any? | ||
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KapsyL
Sweden704 Posts
6.5/10. definetly worth the money though | ||
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fuzzy_panda
New Zealand1681 Posts
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TheToaster
United States280 Posts
On April 26 2013 17:38 Poffel wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. Also, there's a point in the trailer when hundreds of Iron Men fly up next to each other. I'd just like to point out that's completely stupid. The whole point of a super hero is to have unique abilities that are one of a kind. But if there's the possibility of multiple Iron Men, then what's the point? While I agree that superhero movies are most certainly cash cows, you seem to have a quite strict view on what a superhero is supposed to be... as for the bolded statement in your post: What about Speedsters? You have "the" Flash (Barry Allen, Bart Allen, Sela Allen, every other member of the Allen-family, Wally West, ...), but you also have all the evil speedsters with basically the same skillset. You have Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Superdog, Superhorse, Bizarro, Man of Steel, Man of Tomorrow, Metropolis Kid, Last Son of Kryption... Green Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, ... Wolverine, Sabretooth, X-23, ... And not last and definitely not least, you have the whole Green Lantern corps (and all the other color-coded Lanterns). Long story short, I don't know what quality to expect from the new Iron Man movie. But the case of "multiple superhero" can hardly be called unprecedented. ![]() I don't think it was the multitude of super heroes that annoyed me. I understand that the fictional superhero "universe" has tons of super heroes that are similar. It's just the idea that anyone can jump into an Iron Man suit and become the same superhero as Tony Stark. Maybe Tony's the only one who can fully understand the suit, but based on the movies anyone can use them effectively. And no, I'm not implying that you need fictional forms of superpowers that originate from radioactivity or anything like that. Just something that characteristically defines you. For example, Batman and his philosophy on dealing with criminals. Or that Hawkeye guy from the Avengers, who obviously spent a lifetime training with his bow. Aside from Tony's cynical quips that get thrown out every 5 minutes (which seems to be a product of Robert Downey's acting more than the comic book character), I'm not really seeing anything special about Tony as a super hero. So when you throw on the fact that anyone can use his suits, he just seems really lame. | ||
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ETisME
12530 Posts
but I was really worrying too much, it had a very fine balance between comedy, seriousness and actions. even my gf who hasn't watched any of the super hero movies before enjoyed it quite a lot and started asking me questions about the character the post credit scene was the worst one out of all though, not worth staying for | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On April 27 2013 14:39 TheToaster wrote: Show nested quote + On April 26 2013 17:38 Poffel wrote: On April 26 2013 12:18 TheToaster wrote: I'm not sure if TL has figured this out yet, but super hero movies kinda suck nowadays. They've been turned into cash cows with almost no originality. Yes they have some of the best graphics and visual effects out of any movies, but computer generated CGI has become extremely cheap and easy to produce in recent years. They are basically turning the genre into B-movies that are pathetically unoriginal at this point. Also, there's a point in the trailer when hundreds of Iron Men fly up next to each other. I'd just like to point out that's completely stupid. The whole point of a super hero is to have unique abilities that are one of a kind. But if there's the possibility of multiple Iron Men, then what's the point? While I agree that superhero movies are most certainly cash cows, you seem to have a quite strict view on what a superhero is supposed to be... as for the bolded statement in your post: What about Speedsters? You have "the" Flash (Barry Allen, Bart Allen, Sela Allen, every other member of the Allen-family, Wally West, ...), but you also have all the evil speedsters with basically the same skillset. You have Superman, Supergirl, Superboy, Superdog, Superhorse, Bizarro, Man of Steel, Man of Tomorrow, Metropolis Kid, Last Son of Kryption... Green Hulk, Red Hulk, She-Hulk, ... Wolverine, Sabretooth, X-23, ... And not last and definitely not least, you have the whole Green Lantern corps (and all the other color-coded Lanterns). Long story short, I don't know what quality to expect from the new Iron Man movie. But the case of "multiple superhero" can hardly be called unprecedented. ![]() I don't think it was the multitude of super heroes that annoyed me. I understand that the fictional superhero "universe" has tons of super heroes that are similar. It's just the idea that anyone can jump into an Iron Man suit and become the same superhero as Tony Stark. Maybe Tony's the only one who can fully understand the suit, but based on the movies anyone can use them effectively. And no, I'm not implying that you need fictional forms of superpowers that originate from radioactivity or anything like that. Just something that characteristically defines you. For example, Batman and his philosophy on dealing with criminals. Or that Hawkeye guy from the Avengers, who obviously spent a lifetime training with his bow. Aside from Tony's cynical quips that get thrown out every 5 minutes (which seems to be a product of Robert Downey's acting more than the comic book character), I'm not really seeing anything special about Tony as a super hero. So when you throw on the fact that anyone can use his suits, he just seems really lame. Iron Man just isn't that interesting as the main character in a super hero movie. Tony Stark is, which is why the first Iron Man was the best. And why he was so great in the Avengers. Clean slate protocol is the most retarded thing ever. It's something Tony would never do but it needs to happen in order for Tony not to be incredibly overpowered in Avengers 2. Ugh. | ||
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Oldfool
Australia394 Posts
On April 27 2013 08:20 fuzzy_panda wrote:. Also did anyone get the feeling the movie played like a Christmas special? Yes, very much so, especially with that random kid. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10132 Posts
I enjoyed the movie. Not as much as ironman 1 of course, but it was ok. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
But I didn't like how they decided to mis-use the Mandarin as a character and made him as a gimmicky comical character. He was supposed to be the archenemy of Iron Man but he was made as a joke? That was what put me off. | ||
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Peeano
Netherlands5188 Posts
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Thor.Rush
Sweden702 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
Some said it is bad.. I tink I should watch it, should worth my money I hope ![]() | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5098 Posts
I'm also being told the ending with the Fan Bing Bing eye candy is only for Chinese cinemas so... if anyone saw that I apologize she doesn't look that good without photoshop. | ||
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Kinon
Romania207 Posts
I guess that in a world where Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time and Gangnam Style the most viewed video on youtube, the reaction towards Iron Man is no surprise. | ||
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Nimix
France1809 Posts
I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. As much as I won't defend those movies (which I kind of liked, but well I understand people who don't), I've got to say.. dude, seriously? xD It's a superhero movie, why would you say that, of course it's impossible and stuff, but who cares, it's not the point at all ^o) Either you like action movies with stupid plots just for the sake of seeing explosions and stuff, or you don't, but don't go down the "hey this is impossible in real life it's bullshit" road xD | ||
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Kinon
Romania207 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:29 Nimix wrote: Show nested quote + I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. As much as I won't defend those movies (which I kind of liked, but well I understand people who don't), I've got to say.. dude, seriously? xD It's a superhero movie, why would you say that, of course it's impossible and stuff, but who cares, it's not the point at all ^o) Either you like action movies with stupid plots just for the sake of seeing explosions and stuff, or you don't, but don't go down the "hey this is impossible in real life it's bullshit" road xD I like movies that are plausible, message>entertainment for me. What's so wrong with thinking 'hey this is impossible in real life it's bullshit'? I bellieve people should be rational, even when watching a movie. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:53 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + On May 02 2013 02:29 Nimix wrote: I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. As much as I won't defend those movies (which I kind of liked, but well I understand people who don't), I've got to say.. dude, seriously? xD It's a superhero movie, why would you say that, of course it's impossible and stuff, but who cares, it's not the point at all ^o) Either you like action movies with stupid plots just for the sake of seeing explosions and stuff, or you don't, but don't go down the "hey this is impossible in real life it's bullshit" road xD I like movies that are plausible, message>entertainment for me. What's so wrong with thinking 'hey this is impossible in real life it's bullshit'? I bellieve people should be rational, even when watching a movie. Bro It's a SUPERhero movie. It's a supernatural movie. So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. | ||
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Kinon
Romania207 Posts
So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34495 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Bingo. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Because we got an imagination and we are not afraid to use it?! | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:12 Kinon wrote: I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. I guess that in a world where Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time and Gangnam Style the most viewed video on youtube, the reaction towards Iron Man is no surprise. this just in, super hero movies are supposed to be realistic | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Sometimes, after I've spent my whole day at work concentrating, worrying about realities and just generally working my ass off, I want to come home and switch off my brain... I want to be entertained. Not everything in life has to be deep, complex or an exercise in mental gynmastics. There's nothing complex about that concept either. | ||
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KadaverBB
Germany25657 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
![]() I like Iron Man 1, it is still realistic world. When all the superpower thing have not come out yet. It is modern world with a new technology that beat F22 easily haha. | ||
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ETisME
12530 Posts
On May 02 2013 00:40 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Some said it is good, Some said it is bad.. I tink I should watch it, should worth my money I hope ![]() should watch it. almost everyone who disliked this movie in this thread is more or less about the mandarin reveal but if you aren't a comic fan, you will love it. The whole cinema was laughing so loud at that scene (even my gf who never even watched iron man before and I kinda forced her to go ^^) | ||
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Assault_1
Canada1950 Posts
I hope the third is dark and gritty like batman | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2337 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:12 Kinon wrote: I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. I guess that in a world where Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time and Gangnam Style the most viewed video on youtube, the reaction towards Iron Man is no surprise. Yeah, a movie not being totally realistic? Who wants that garbage? | ||
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Hermanoid
Sweden213 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34495 Posts
On May 02 2013 16:03 Hermanoid wrote: Haven't watched it yet, does hold the Iron Man flag high as the best marvel movie series? Most of all I'm curious about the antagonist. I thought IM1 was a good movie but I was widely dissapointed by how Obadiah just felt like a jealous, mindless, overweight bully. It's difficult to say anything without spoiling much. It's still worth a watch imo. | ||
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greenelve
Germany1392 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + what was the explanation for tony starks panic attacks? and where does the evil guy got his powers from? i would also like to ask "wtf mandarin?" but then...the movie overall isnt that good... kinda average maybe.. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 03 2013 05:55 greenelve wrote: after watching it, it seems i have missed some things.... + Show Spoiler + what was the explanation for tony starks panic attacks? and where does the evil guy got his powers from? i would also like to ask "wtf mandarin?" but then...the movie overall isnt that good... kinda average maybe..+ Show Spoiler + He has PTSP after what happened during Avengers. Evil guy used the Extremis formula on himself. His powers are same as any of the other superhumans Stark was fighting against. Well they probably decided real Mandarin was not serious enough for this movie... | ||
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x-Catalyst
United States921 Posts
I enjoyed it mostly because while it did have action scenes, explosions, etc, it wasn't too over the top. It really incorporated Stark's attitude of past events (i.e. The Avengers). It's a nice contrast from his usual super arrogant, confident, and over the top ego. The story was pretty good, you may be left with questions if you haven't seen previous movies, but it's nothing incomprehensible. There are many funny moments and liners, giving the movie a comedic feel. It does in a way which helps the movie not be super serious, but at the same time not taking too much away from it. What I didn't like as much, + Show Spoiler + The Mandarin turned out to be just a face, and it adds a nice bit of comedy. I would have preferred him to be more traditional with the 10 rings and what not. It could have added some cool action, but would have been to much. So that's understandable. I also feel a little sad when Tony finally gets the shrapnel removed, therefore not needing the arc reactor in his chest anymore. It makes the movies feel final (even though they probably aren't, they better not be...) since it's one of his most identifying characteristics. Overall, I would suggest seeing it. It's very enjoyable especially if you're a fan of Marvel, Action Movies, Robert Downey Jr... etc. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
Was there any indication why all these armed servicemen and women decided to go along with the plot to assassinate the President of the United States after they had their limbs back? I mean there's no indication it would help the Extremis stabilization. Why did they love killing random people so much, too? Also, why did we not get a courtesy shot of Tony freezing an Extremis guy causing fractures then punching them so that they exploded? Wasted opportunity. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On May 02 2013 02:12 Kinon wrote: I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. I guess that in a world where Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time and Gangnam Style the most viewed video on youtube, the reaction towards Iron Man is no surprise. Thor, The Hulk, aliens from space, etc etc. ALL PLAUSIBLE. But that SUIT? Oh hell naw! Also, doesnt IM fail at flying tons of times in the first movie because he didnt have all of the kinks worked out (such as stabilization)? It seems more reasonable than Thor that Stark couldve engineered algorithms for his boosters along with other changes to allow it to work. Anyway, I enjoyed the 3rd one. It was entertaining. Very much different than the first two. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ever had the experience of being so excited, but only to end up being disappointed? That is how I felt with the movie. It was my fault for getting too hyped up and believing what Shane Black, Kevin Feige, and the cast said about the movie. I remember back last year during San Diego Comic-Con where Shane Black praised Ben Kingsley claiming that he IS the Mandarin. After seeing the movie... yeah right. They absolutely butchered the character and made him into nothing but a comic relief character. Even in his serious side, he was still laughable and cheesy. Enough of that. I thought the overall movie was decent and it was a little better than Iron Man 2, which isn't saying much because Iron Man 2 was the weakest of all the MCU movies so far. Yes, even I thought The Incredible Hulk was a better film. Tony Stark felt a little more tamed and less annoying than he was in Iron Man 2 and The Avengers. There are some moments when I rolled my eyes to some of the things he said, but Robert Downey Jr is still awesome. Don Cheadle didn't really do much besides fly around and have short dialogue. I felt he was very underused in this movie when there was so much potential to expand his role. Guy Pierce was pretty good in this movie and I think he is the best villain out of the three Iron Man movies so far. I thought his reason was cliche, but it worked for the most part. Some are drawing similarities from The Dark Knight Rises, which there are some since this is more of a Tony Stark movie than him being Iron man. He spent most of his time starting from the beginning since he lost a lot of things. The final battle at the end was quite anti-climatic. Joss Whedon praised it by saying it will be difficult to overcome it in Avengers 2, which I thought it be complete bullshit honestly. It was nice to see the true Hall of Armors, but they didn't do much besides fly around and fight the Extremis soldiers and sometimes switching between armors. I find this movie to be a poor start to Phase 2 of the MCU. I think this movie wasn't really needed since it doesn't push the storyline to the eventual Avengers 2. I think Thor 2 will since the universe is more connected to Thanos. In the end, I give Iron Man 3 a 6.5/10 and it makes me nervous for the upcoming films especially Captain America 2 and Guardians of the Galaxy. I think Thor 2 has the potential to be the best Phase 2 movies out of all of them. On May 04 2013 00:05 TheTenthDoc wrote: Okay movie. + Show Spoiler + Was there any indication why all these armed servicemen and women decided to go along with the plot to assassinate the President of the United States after they had their limbs back? I mean there's no indication it would help the Extremis stabilization. Why did they love killing random people so much, too? Also, why did we not get a courtesy shot of Tony freezing an Extremis guy causing fractures then punching them so that they exploded? Wasted opportunity. + Show Spoiler + Like any virus/serum, it depends on how well the user takes it in. I'd assume that some easily lose patience and control of it. I mean, Pepper almost lost control at the end when she killed Aldrich Killian. On May 02 2013 02:12 Kinon wrote: I'm surprised by the amount of people that liked the Iron Man movies. The way the suit functions would be totally impossible to replicate in real life. For example, thrusters generate a huge amount of heat, and having them as boots only a few inches from the skin would most likely create severe burns. Also, without some sort of stabilizers (wings), controlled flight would be impossible. I guess that in a world where Avatar is the highest grossing movie of all time and Gangnam Style the most viewed video on youtube, the reaction towards Iron Man is no surprise. Gee. You must be really fun to hang out with. Not. The movie is entertainment and people just want to have fun watching it. You expect realism from a comic book series? Even to a point, the comic book Batman wasn't realistic either, but Nolan changed somethings to make it so. You're talking about Iron Man being apart of the MCU with the likes of Thor (demigod), Hulk (green rage monster), and Captain America (super soldier). | ||
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teapot
United Kingdom266 Posts
Iron Man 2, put me in a coma. Zzzz. Should I go see Iron Man 3? | ||
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maltenp
Sweden15 Posts
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gedatsu
1286 Posts
On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Are you seriously questioning why people like entertainment? | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 04 2013 03:22 teapot wrote: Iron Man 1, was ok, it entertained me. Iron Man 2, put me in a coma. Zzzz. Should I go see Iron Man 3? If you are a fan of Iron Man, Marvel, or comic book movies in general, then yes. Iron Man 3 is a little better than Iron Man 2. | ||
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Kinon
Romania207 Posts
On May 04 2013 03:32 gedatsu wrote: Show nested quote + On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Are you seriously questioning why people like entertainment? Read my original post again. I know people like movies like Iron Man, Avengers and Avatar because they are entertaining. That's not the point. My point was the huge succes these movies get, compared to the more realistic ones. If you check the box office, it's very rare that you get to see something like Cinderella man, You don't know Jack, The hunt. I personally watch all types of movies, but most people I know only follow these eye candy block-busters. That's what bothers me. | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On May 04 2013 04:35 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2013 03:32 gedatsu wrote: On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Are you seriously questioning why people like entertainment? Read my original post again. I know people like movies like Iron Man, Avengers and Avatar because they are entertaining. That's not the point. My point was the huge succes these movies get, compared to the more realistic ones. If you check the box office, it's very rare that you get to see something like Cinderella man, You don't know Jack, The hunt. I personally watch all types of movies, but most people I know only follow these eye candy block-busters. That's what bothers me. Because people live in reality. Many people dont want MORE reality when being entertained (unless they are watching people being dumb... reality TV). | ||
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Reval
United States297 Posts
Jumping into various suits is fine but surely that shit would hurt | ||
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Mistakes
United States1102 Posts
I was a huge fan of the others, and The Avengers and whatnot. But the other movies were just fun, this movie actually had me hooked and focused like the entire time. So good. | ||
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LuisFrost
Mexico130 Posts
On May 04 2013 04:35 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2013 03:32 gedatsu wrote: On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Are you seriously questioning why people like entertainment? Read my original post again. I know people like movies like Iron Man, Avengers and Avatar because they are entertaining. That's not the point. My point was the huge succes these movies get, compared to the more realistic ones. If you check the box office, it's very rare that you get to see something like Cinderella man, You don't know Jack, The hunt. I personally watch all types of movies, but most people I know only follow these eye candy block-busters. That's what bothers me. Why does it bother you? Why do you care what other people do with their time? | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 04 2013 05:58 Reval wrote: Watched it and wondered how your body would survive so much impact with metal. Jumping into various suits is fine but surely that shit would hurt Yeah. I think Stark is quite used to it ever since he started building these armors. Besides, Stark has come a long way since the days of the first Iron Man. I'm sure he improved the comfort and safety of each armor. At least, we see Stark getting cuts and start bleeding when he's in a long battle. I think Stark can tolerate some level of pain. This is the same guy injecting microchips into arm in the beginning of Iron Man 3 when he was testing the Mark 42 armor. | ||
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Emzeeshady
Canada4203 Posts
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SkaPunk
United States471 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34495 Posts
On May 04 2013 06:20 Emzeeshady wrote: I am a huge comic book fan but I don't mind them deviating from the plot of the comics (as long as they don't recreate it completely). Without giving too much away how badly do they change the storyline (and is it in a positive way)? More realism, for example, no 10 rings from aliens. Can't really say much else without spoiling. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On May 04 2013 04:57 TheRabidDeer wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2013 04:35 Kinon wrote: On May 04 2013 03:32 gedatsu wrote: On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Are you seriously questioning why people like entertainment? Read my original post again. I know people like movies like Iron Man, Avengers and Avatar because they are entertaining. That's not the point. My point was the huge succes these movies get, compared to the more realistic ones. If you check the box office, it's very rare that you get to see something like Cinderella man, You don't know Jack, The hunt. I personally watch all types of movies, but most people I know only follow these eye candy block-busters. That's what bothers me. Because people live in reality. Many people dont want MORE reality when being entertained (unless they are watching people being dumb... reality TV). just wanted to echo this. Its a pretty logical trend/idea. As the world is constantly being made more aware of threats/danger/bad shit going on, people will look for, and enjoy more and more, any escapes from our own reality. (I make this point, not saying that more bad stuff happens now than before..just saying we are more aware of all of the bad news of the entire world thanks to technology and the age of information... 1000 years ago when people on the other side of the planet were being wiped out... people weren't aware of it and were not worried about it as they were safe in their immediate area... now if anything bad happens anywhere, we all see/hear/read about it...its a bit of a downer tbh) IDK this is why at least I play video games/enjoy movies... its not real. And its fun and enjoyable and stress-free to be taken to a magical place where bad shit doesn't actually affect me..but at the same time it makes me happy to know I saved the day in this fantasy universe..and if I failed... I just start over or re-load. Just saying there is a reason that fantasy and super hero movies are gaining popularity in todays age. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Bad guy takes over the television and sends a message to the president zzzzz It's like a spoof. | ||
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
On May 04 2013 04:35 Kinon wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2013 03:32 gedatsu wrote: On May 02 2013 03:06 Kinon wrote: So I presumed you don't liked Superman,Thor,Spiderman,Daredevil,Batman. Then I guess superhero movies just aren't your tastes. I didn't like those, and don't like superhero movies in general, but that's not the point. I was just genuinly curious why so many people like this type of movies, made only for entertainment with not much solid ground. Are you seriously questioning why people like entertainment? Read my original post again. I know people like movies like Iron Man, Avengers and Avatar because they are entertaining. That's not the point. My point was the huge succes these movies get, compared to the more realistic ones. If you check the box office, it's very rare that you get to see something like Cinderella man, You don't know Jack, The hunt. I personally watch all types of movies, but most people I know only follow these eye candy block-busters. That's what bothers me. You must be one bothered man with 99.9999% of art being that way nowadays... | ||
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Fuell
Netherlands3111 Posts
Waited after the credits for the infamous last scene but was kinda boring and didn't really reveal anything major. 3.5/10 | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 04 2013 05:58 Reval wrote: Watched it and wondered how your body would survive so much impact with metal. Jumping into various suits is fine but surely that shit would hurt Yes that is what is bothering you when you got superhumans running around, regenerating whole body parts and throwing fire from their mouths :D You must be one of those people that complains that Dragons could not possibly fly.. | ||
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Fix637
United States256 Posts
It was incredibly different from the first two. It was hilariously written - funnier than the other two by far and maybe even funnier than Avengers. It was also a lot more violent. Not necessarily blood and guts but the fight scenes were a lot more intense than the previous films. I'm not used to Tony Stark talking about killing other people as much as he did and seemingly having little regard for it. Most comic book heroes actively try to avoid killing, but Tony definitely didn't have a problem with it in this movie. Granted everyone he killed was evil + Show Spoiler + and most of them were doped up on Extremis Tony was also REALLY out of sorts the entire film. + Show Spoiler + He basically has PTSD from flying the nuclear missile into the worm hole in New York The use of the Mandarin was incredibly daring but I think it paid off. + Show Spoiler + It takes away a really powerful recurring villain but at the same time Ben Kingsley is so hilarious and it was such a brilliant twist that I'm not necessarily bothered. Overall I loved it and would see it again. There are some things that bother me about it but I haven't quite figured them out yet. 8.5/10 | ||
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vidic07
Vietnam9 Posts
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Crisco
1170 Posts
On May 04 2013 06:20 Emzeeshady wrote: I am a huge comic book fan but I don't mind them deviating from the plot of the comics (as long as they don't recreate it completely). Without giving too much away how badly do they change the storyline (and is it in a positive way)? I'd say only like 10% has any similarity what-so-ever to the comic. Gotta enjoy the movie for what it is because if you go in expecting similarities to the comic storyline, you will probably be disappointed. | ||
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Wobulator
United States15 Posts
Why it's good:+ Show Spoiler + It was like the Avengers in that it was an action movie that didn't take itself too seriously, and was funny. I also genuinely was afraid for Tony Stark during some of the scenes; he wasn't invincible. I actually liked the Mandarin reveal. Why it's not so good:+ Show Spoiler + It had the same problem as Iron Man 2, in that Tony Stark became a human with superpowers, instead of an engineer. For me (I haven't read the comics), the charm of the first one was Tony building the suit. He wasn't stronger or a better fighter- he was just really good at building things. Jarvis, too, became just too powerful. In Iron Man 1, Jarvis was a really cool CAD program, and he slowly morphed into a omniscient deity. | ||
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GreyKnight
United States4720 Posts
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Dooba
Croatia588 Posts
Apart from that - just another high budget well done movie, nothing special in it. 1 act twist and that's it, you know the rest. | ||
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WilDMousE
Chile1335 Posts
part were pepper "died", I was like "woah, srs shit going on, possibly more character development finally! at the cost of another sequel..." then nope, she was alive DEUS EX MACHINAE, the entire movie was filled with that :'c | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 04 2013 14:37 WilDMousE wrote: The last fight scene felt so uninspired and bland, like I was totally amazed on the + Show Spoiler + part were pepper "died", I was like "woah, srs shit going on, possibly more character development finally! at the cost of another sequel..." then nope, she was alive DEUS EX MACHINAE, the entire movie was filled with that :'c + Show Spoiler + unless you slept through the movie and woke up at that scene it was obvious she didn't die from that. The extremis exposed humans survived worse through the movie. | ||
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nanospartan
649 Posts
On May 04 2013 17:38 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2013 14:37 WilDMousE wrote: The last fight scene felt so uninspired and bland, like I was totally amazed on the + Show Spoiler + part were pepper "died", I was like "woah, srs shit going on, possibly more character development finally! at the cost of another sequel..." then nope, she was alive DEUS EX MACHINAE, the entire movie was filled with that :'c + Show Spoiler + unless you slept through the movie and woke up at that scene it was obvious she didn't die from that. The extremis exposed humans survived worse through the movie. woooosh | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
Better than Iron Man 2 by a mile :D (not a great achievment tho). | ||
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nonsequitur
384 Posts
Although I found myself wondering why they didn't call in the rest of the Avengers to help, especially at the end when + Show Spoiler + the president is captured! | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On May 04 2013 18:15 nonsequitur wrote: Much much better than 2, a little better than 1. I was quite disappointed by the Mandarin "twist" even though I don't read the comics. I was looking forward to pew pew from the rings. Overall I would give it a 8/10. Nerd chills moment were when he finished donning the suit during the attack on his house and the 100 backups. :D Although I found myself wondering why they didn't call in the rest of the Avengers to help, especially at the end when + Show Spoiler + the president is captured! + Show Spoiler + Well, it happened pretty bloody quickly and maybe the Vice President being in on it had something to do with covering it up until it was too late. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 04 2013 18:15 nonsequitur wrote: Much much better than 2, a little better than 1. I was quite disappointed by the Mandarin "twist" even though I don't read the comics. I was looking forward to pew pew from the rings. Overall I would give it a 8/10. Nerd chills moment were when he finished donning the suit during the attack on his house and the 100 backups. :D Although I found myself wondering why they didn't call in the rest of the Avengers to help, especially at the end when + Show Spoiler + the president is captured! Not surprised that Marvel did not try to explain why or how. In The Avengers they gave us the crappy explanation of Odin summoning dark energy to bring Thor to Earth when the bitfrost was destroyed. Captain America 2 will probably take place the same time Iron Man 3, which will explain why there was no SHIELD involvement. Thor is a no brainer since he is busy in Asgard dealing with family problems and the impending arrival of Malekith (maybe due to Odin summoning dark energy). We have no official timeline of where Iron Man 3 takes place besides it taking place after The Avengers. As least in Thor 2, we know it takes place a year after. It is similar to why War Machine was not in the battle of New York since he was on the other side of the planet on a U.S. military mission (explained in the prelude comic) and couldn't reach New York in time. | ||
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Heartscry
United Kingdom291 Posts
Wasn't that wild about the movie, have to say I prefer much darker superhero movies like Nolan's Batman. Got high hopes for the new Superman too. | ||
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KillahKonceptz
Canada93 Posts
Agree with what most people are saying on the Mandarin character, the twist was funny but imo ruined the whole serious tone the movie had until then and made the Mandarin into a crappy comedic relief character. Watching soccer while two chicks played ping pong was pretty baller though :D Next, the Pepper "dying" scene was really cheesy, EVERYONE should have knew what was going to happen. Also, IMO the villains were really boring, they were kinda too "normal" I guess to be supervillains. I guess I was expecting some insane supernatural villain for this movie, especially after watching the Avengers. Another thing that bothered me was Don Cheadle saying that they could only save one person, the President or Pepper, but they ended up saving them really easily. Overall, I'd give it 6.5-7/10. Anyone notice any easter eggs? I asked my friends but they didn't find any either :S | ||
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Scribble
2077 Posts
On May 05 2013 05:55 KillahKonceptz wrote: Anyone notice any easter eggs? I asked my friends but they didn't find any either :S + Show Spoiler + The Mandarin mentions that Thomas works for the Roxxon Oil Company. Stan Lee cameo as usual. He's holding the 10 sign up during the pageant. Post-credits scene with Bruce Banner. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
Was exactly what i wanted to watch... a super hero movie filled with action and witty punchlines from Robert Downy Jr. both were delivered incredibly well. If you arent a hipster, and understand what the iron man franchise is... you will enjoy it. Thought it was a lot better than 2... pretty much even with 1. | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On May 05 2013 05:55 KillahKonceptz wrote: Just watched it today. It was okay, not great but not terrible either. Agree with what most people are saying on the Mandarin character, the twist was funny but imo ruined the whole serious tone the movie had until then and made the Mandarin into a crappy comedic relief character. Watching soccer while two chicks played ping pong was pretty baller though :D Next, the Pepper "dying" scene was really cheesy, EVERYONE should have knew what was going to happen. Also, IMO the villains were really boring, they were kinda too "normal" I guess to be supervillains. I guess I was expecting some insane supernatural villain for this movie, especially after watching the Avengers. Another thing that bothered me was Don Cheadle saying that they could only save one person, the President or Pepper, but they ended up saving them really easily. Overall, I'd give it 6.5-7/10. Anyone notice any easter eggs? I asked my friends but they didn't find any either :S + Show Spoiler + Because being a mutated man who... A. Regenerates similar to wolverine. B. Shoots fire from his mouth C. Can turn any part of himself into a 3000 degree torch. D. Can turn himself and other people into Bombs isnt supernatural at all? | ||
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Akka
France291 Posts
On May 05 2013 02:19 Heartscry wrote: Just seen it in a Chinese cinema, it has a couple of bizarre scenes with two famous Chinese stars that have been put in as Fan Service type affair - apparently they aren't in any other countries version of the movie? Pointless scenes too. Yup, was weird. I didn't even understand what they were saying since these parts were not subtitled in english ![]() | ||
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Watermelonjuice
Canada14 Posts
I also liked the evolution of the armor and its upgrades from needing the special machine to be fitted inside in Iron Man 1 to the portable suitcase suit case of Iron Man 2, its bracelet laser-guided version in Avengers to the self-guided components of this movie, the suit-up sequence was always the coolest. Very funny how they decided to reference Downton Abbey as well. + Show Spoiler + Part I found to be off was how Tony decided he would be able to take on the Mandarin's compound without his armor. What I also don't understand is how his Iron Men managed to take out the Extremis soldiers? It's already been proven that explosions and electrocutions basically cannot kill them. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:10 Watermelonjuice wrote: Just watched the movie, and I thought it was very good. Really enjoyed Stark's sense of fallibility in this one, where the movie seemed to be a bit darker and he has to deal with both his insecurities and also his enemies that can, as opposed to simply disabling his armor but actually outright destroy it. In the previous movies as long as Tony is inside the suit he is basically invincible but in this one that's not the case. I also liked the evolution of the armor and its upgrades from needing the special machine to be fitted inside in Iron Man 1 to the portable suitcase suit case of Iron Man 2, its bracelet laser-guided version in Avengers to the self-guided components of this movie, the suit-up sequence was always the coolest. Very funny how they decided to reference Downton Abbey as well. + Show Spoiler + Part I found to be off was how Tony decided he would be able to take on the Mandarin's compound without his armor. What I also don't understand is how his Iron Men managed to take out the Extremis soldiers? It's already been proven that explosions and electrocutions basically cannot kill them. + Show Spoiler + Extremis powerlevels varied widely. Some died from repulsors to the chest, other regenerated from a self-destructing suit. We can only assume the answer was hitting the weak spot for super damage. | ||
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Mortal
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 05 2013 06:25 Scribble wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2013 05:55 KillahKonceptz wrote: Anyone notice any easter eggs? I asked my friends but they didn't find any either :S + Show Spoiler + The Mandarin mentions that Thomas works for the Roxxon Oil Company. Stan Lee cameo as usual. He's holding the 10 sign up during the pageant. Post-credits scene with Bruce Banner. + Show Spoiler + Wouldn't the doctor at the start of the movie, who saved Stark in the cave, count as a huge easter egg? Overall the movie was fine. Not great. Not bad. Full of the normal tropes. Still don't understand why people are still playing the role of "villian" in a world where gods and aliens are proven to exist and want to destroy earth. Stark literally saved all these idiots from certain death. | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:50 Gahlo wrote: What really bothered me about this movie? 1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. What does teh second point has to do with the actual film you're watching? Why does it matter to you? | ||
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
On May 05 2013 16:28 tomatriedes wrote: I've started to detest typical Hollywood action movies as I've got older, but I found this tolerable. Far better than the garbage job they did with Transformers and less cliched than Avengers anyway. "Puny God" Avengers was excellent. Transformers 1 was pretty good but 2 was horrible ![]() | ||
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Alryk
United States2718 Posts
I thought think they might have overdone the immortal can't die extremis people but you know, oh well. + Show Spoiler + Having not read the comics, does Iron man actually "retire?" Or how does he come back? | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
I get that Jarvis "goes to sleep" and hence there is a period of time where Tony is on his own, but why in the world did Tony not trigger his army of suits when his and Peppers life was threaten at the mansion? Jarvis was intact there and we even saw that Jarvis could pull out the suit Tony was in rather than having a regular crane do the work. | ||
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:57 On_Slaught wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2013 06:25 Scribble wrote: On May 05 2013 05:55 KillahKonceptz wrote: Anyone notice any easter eggs? I asked my friends but they didn't find any either :S + Show Spoiler + The Mandarin mentions that Thomas works for the Roxxon Oil Company. Stan Lee cameo as usual. He's holding the 10 sign up during the pageant. Post-credits scene with Bruce Banner. + Show Spoiler + Wouldn't the doctor at the start of the movie, who saved Stark in the cave, count as a huge easter egg? Overall the movie was fine. Not great. Not bad. Full of the normal tropes. Still don't understand why people are still playing the role of "villian" in a world where gods and aliens are proven to exist and want to destroy earth. Stark literally saved all these idiots from certain death. Actually this was brought up during the movie. The villain say that with gods and aliens humans are desperate. The Extremis project is to make humans have a fighting chance. | ||
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matko5
Croatia385 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I don't know why the people don't like the Mandarin twist, I thought it was really amusing and Ben Kingsley nailed it :D | ||
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crappen
Norway1546 Posts
About the movie, it was exactly as I expected of such a movie. And when everything happens as expected, it really does not make it good, just another 7/10 movie (and I hand out 9 and 10 rating easily if it moves me) | ||
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SamirDuran
Philippines895 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:36 matko5 wrote: Great movie, I loved it. + Show Spoiler + I don't know why the people don't like the Mandarin twist, I thought it was really amusing and Ben Kingsley nailed it :D + Show Spoiler + I kinda saw the Mandarin twist because he is not exposed too much and no long interaction between that actor Mandarin and Aldrich | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 05 2013 19:31 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2013 15:57 On_Slaught wrote: On May 05 2013 06:25 Scribble wrote: On May 05 2013 05:55 KillahKonceptz wrote: Anyone notice any easter eggs? I asked my friends but they didn't find any either :S + Show Spoiler + The Mandarin mentions that Thomas works for the Roxxon Oil Company. Stan Lee cameo as usual. He's holding the 10 sign up during the pageant. Post-credits scene with Bruce Banner. + Show Spoiler + Wouldn't the doctor at the start of the movie, who saved Stark in the cave, count as a huge easter egg? Overall the movie was fine. Not great. Not bad. Full of the normal tropes. Still don't understand why people are still playing the role of "villian" in a world where gods and aliens are proven to exist and want to destroy earth. Stark literally saved all these idiots from certain death. Actually this was brought up during the movie. The villain say that with gods and aliens humans are desperate. The Extremis project is to make humans have a fighting chance. I thought that might be the reason, but I didn't remember anybody saying that. Makes sense if so. The main bad guy would have been a very nice addition to the Avengers realistically... | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
I'm a little torn about this movie. The best thing you can say about it is that Shane Black is a very stylistic writer who is great at writing banter and jokes for characters. If you've watch Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Robert Downey Jr. is the perfect actor to channel his bro-tastic sense of humor. The downside of this movie is the pacing, tonal shifts and plot holes galore. + Show Spoiler + A major problem with the Marvel movies going forward is whether or not to acknowledge the existence of the Avengers or SHIELD. There are trials in the film which Iron Man faces that could be easily be resolved with a single phone call. The biggest mistake with this film is bothering to acknowledge the events of the Avengers at all. It's a distraction that makes it impossible to suspend your disbelief over the course of the movie. Tony Stark is a member of a superhero team run by the world's most elite military organization, and world famous for saving the freaking world from alien invasion. There's absolutely no way he would ever need to scramble for resources, do detective work or MacGuyver his way out of any situation. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:50 Gahlo wrote: What really bothered me about this movie? 1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. You proved to me one thing. You don't have a clue as to why studios select the dates they did. This is what happens when you're an outsider, so don't nitpick the release date when you don't know their reasoning. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On May 05 2013 16:01 PVJ wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2013 15:50 Gahlo wrote: What really bothered me about this movie? 1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. What does teh second point has to do with the actual film you're watching? Why does it matter to you? Because it felt really out of place to me. On May 05 2013 23:07 StarStruck wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2013 15:50 Gahlo wrote: What really bothered me about this movie? 1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. You proved to me one thing. You don't have a clue as to why studios select the dates they did. This is what happens when you're an outsider, so don't nitpick the release date when you don't know their reasoning. Unless they tried to put symbolism in doing it near Christmas, I know why they chose to release it in May. It just felt weird. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 00:59 Gahlo wrote: Unless they tried to put symbolism in doing it near Christmas, I know why they chose to release it in May. It just felt weird. Dude, you're not crazy. It's just the way Shane Black writes. He has used kidnapping as a plot device in several films: Lethal Weapon, The Last Boy Scout, The Long Kiss Goodnight, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Iron Man 3. Five of his scripts start with the letter L. At least four of his screenplays take place during Christmas. | ||
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Windows 7
United States236 Posts
On May 05 2013 21:10 crappen wrote: First movie I saw in 3D in cinema (second movie in 3D), and holy shit 3D is horrible. I mean wtf did technology had a major step back into gimmick shit? About the movie, it was exactly as I expected of such a movie. And when everything happens as expected, it really does not make it good, just another 7/10 movie (and I hand out 9 and 10 rating easily if it moves me) Yeah, 3D is garbage. I only ever go to 2D showings. Besides, it cuts the price by like a third in most places. IMAX, on the other hand, can be worth it or a waste depending on the screen you go to. As for your comments, Defacer, yeah, you have a point. The thing I don't like is that they've never really explained SHIELD's role in the MCU. In the first few movies, it was portrayed as some sort of federal agency of the US government, but in The Avengers, suddenly we find out that Fury gets his orders from a secret council of anonymous leaders. What the heck? So what do they do, other than tracking down potential superheroes and spying on the Russians, and where do they get their funding? The US? The UN? ??? | ||
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zz_
Sweden1022 Posts
On May 05 2013 15:50 Gahlo wrote: What really bothered me about this movie? 1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. You must've really liked the movie if these were the only things you were really upset about. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Ben Kingsley was fucking brilliant. I did figure out the twist a bit early, when The Mandarin needed a teleprompter to give his manifesto I figured he was just being manipulated and not a real villain. | ||
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tuho12345
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Makavillin
113 Posts
On May 06 2013 05:23 tuho12345 wrote: I thought it was pretty good, superb action and movie effects. Can't ask for more What about a decent plot? They killed it with this one. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 05 2013 20:36 matko5 wrote: Great movie, I loved it. + Show Spoiler + I don't know why the people don't like the Mandarin twist, I thought it was really amusing and Ben Kingsley nailed it :D + Show Spoiler + The people that like the Mandarin twist are casual fans who have no knowledge of the Iron Man source material, so comics fans have the right to be pissed about it. Sure, there are definitely some who didn't mind, but I didn't like how they butchered and insulted the Mandarin and made Killian the true Mandarin in essence. On May 05 2013 22:19 Defacer wrote: Hmmm, I'm a little torn about this movie. The best thing you can say about it is that Shane Black is a very stylistic writer who is great at writing banter and jokes for characters. If you've watch Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, Robert Downey Jr. is the perfect actor to channel his bro-tastic sense of humor. The downside of this movie is the pacing, tonal shifts and plot holes galore. + Show Spoiler + A major problem with the Marvel movies going forward is whether or not to acknowledge the existence of the Avengers or SHIELD. There are trials in the film which Iron Man faces that could be easily be resolved with a single phone call. The biggest mistake with this film is bothering to acknowledge the events of the Avengers at all. It's a distraction that makes it impossible to suspend your disbelief over the course of the movie. Tony Stark is a member of a superhero team run by the world's most elite military organization, and world famous for saving the freaking world from alien invasion. There's absolutely no way he would ever need to scramble for resources, do detective work or MacGuyver his way out of any situation. + Show Spoiler + They do acknowledge the existence of The Avengers. Some of the characters even mentioned them and even references of Thor and the Chitauri. Stark has never been on good terms with SHIELD anyways. For all we know, the events of Iron Man 3 takes place the same time as Captain America: The Winter Soldier. After the events of The Avengers, SHIELD could have been busy recovering such as tending to the damaged helicarrier or the destroyed base caused by the cosmic cube. Yes, Stark could have called someone, but you have to break it down. Thor is busy in Asgard handling Loki and the impending arrival of Malekith. Captain America, Black Widow, Hawkeye and SHIELD are busy with the Winter Soldier, and Bruce Banner probably doesn't want to be involved and is isolated somewhere like how he was in the beginning of The Avengers. If you have the problem of Stark scrounging for resources and parts, then why couldn't SHIELD rescue Stark in the first Iron Man movie? They definitely know he is a very important asset considering Howard Stark was one of the founders of SHIELD. But why stop there? During the battles at Culver University and New York, why couldn't SHIELD intervene and stop the Hulk in The Incredible Hulk? For all we know, SHIELD could have been helping the U.S. government track down the Mandarin, but they could have easily fall for the decoys like everyone else. There is still the tension between SHIELD and the U.S. government and how they launched a nuke to New York in The Avengers. This is the same thing in the comics since they are apart of a team, but they handle their things themselves. You have to know that Stark wants to handle this himself since he has always been a lone wolf (although we see that he changes his mindset when he knows he must). This is a problem that he wants to solve himself from his anxiety and panic attacks to stopping the Mandarin. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
Younger people probably aren't aware of this, but Shane Black invented most of the action comedy cliches that people make fun of today — he's credited for pretty much populariziing the buddy-cop genre with Lethal Weapon. By the time Shane Black was in his 30's he was the highest-paid screenwriter in Hollywood. He cares about snappy dialogue and one-liners, and inventing over-the-top and creative ways for heroes to kill bad guys. He cares less about the overall plausibility the plot. Shane Black is also very self-aware writer/director. He's the kind of guy that casts middle-men with ponytails as henchmen, because he thinks middle-aged men with pony tails are fucking cheesy and hilarious. So yeah, if you enjoyed goofy movies like the Monster Squad and The Last Boy Scout, you'll probably like Iron Man 3. If you think those movies are fucking dumb — because let's face it, they kind of are — than you'll probably hate this movie. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 06:17 zoLo wrote: + Show Spoiler + The people that like the Mandarin twist are casual fans who have no knowledge of the Iron Man source material, so comics fans have the right to be pissed about it. Sure, there are definitely some who didn't mind, but I didn't like how they butchered and insulted the Mandarin and made Killian the true Mandarin in essence. I'm glad they made the changes, because frankly ... + Show Spoiler + Mandarin is an antiquated character that originated from the scheming, dastardly Fu Manchu stereotype of Asians that was popular in the 1930's and 40's. It's just really goofy in the current world of Iron Man movies. | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. + Show Spoiler + There's a quick exchange between Jarvis and Stark, where Jarvis reports that the rubble from the mansion site hasn't been cleared yet. Blocking access to the suits. And I think the viewer is supposed to assume that power to the mansion and all it's systems are down for an extended period of time, hence Jarvis having to power down. But yeah, they did a poor job setting that up. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. Especially when there was that one huge suit specifically build for lifting heavy things. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:40 ZackAttack wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. Especially when there was that one huge suit specifically build for lifting heavy things. Not disagreeing with you guys, but bear in mind this is the same movie series where the main character built a particle accelerator in his house and made a new element that not only completed his fathers legacy but also saved him from the unstable, poisonous material that powers his body. Very, very little about the iron man movies makes any sense. | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:47 Defacer wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:40 ZackAttack wrote: On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. Especially when there was that one huge suit specifically build for lifting heavy things. Not disagreeing with you guys, but bear in mind this is the same movie series where the main character built a particle accelerator in his house and made a new element that not only completed his fathers legacy but also saved him from the unstable, poisonous material that powers his body. Very, very little about the iron man movies makes any sense. This is true, but my problem is not about suspending my disbelief, or plausibility, it is verisimilitude. The things that happened don't have to make sense in the real world, they just have to make sense in the context of the world that the film is taking place in. | ||
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rockon1215
United States612 Posts
I thought the way they handled The Mandarin was brilliant. He's a shitty villain (all Iron Man ones are, really), so playing him like in the comics would have been a disaster. Also, it seemed to be a reaction/parody of the overly intense superhero movies inspired by The Dark Knight with the acted version of The Mandarin being their version of The Joker/Bane. After The Avengers came out, Joss Whedon was asked what he would do in the sequel, he said he would "go smaller." Trying to out do the epic fucking invading aliens in NYC was a stupid idea and that he would have the story more grounded and character based. I think the guys making Iron Man 3 had the same idea | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:52 ZackAttack wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:47 Defacer wrote: On May 06 2013 07:40 ZackAttack wrote: On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. Especially when there was that one huge suit specifically build for lifting heavy things. Not disagreeing with you guys, but bear in mind this is the same movie series where the main character built a particle accelerator in his house and made a new element that not only completed his fathers legacy but also saved him from the unstable, poisonous material that powers his body. Very, very little about the iron man movies makes any sense. This is true, but my problem is not about suspending my disbelief, or plausibility, it is verisimilitude. The things that happened don't have to make sense in the real world, they just have to make sense in the context of the world that the film is taking place in. Totally agree. I would have less problems with the movie if it spent a little more time rationalizing why the Avengers or Shield wasn't available, or the extent to which Tony's resources were so limited. (Example: a throwaway line from Stark saying, "Pepper is much safer if everyone just assumes I'm dead." Or Jarvis saying "Power to all systems in the mansion are down indefinitely ... ") | ||
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Jacmert
Canada1709 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:47 Defacer wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:40 ZackAttack wrote: On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. Especially when there was that one huge suit specifically build for lifting heavy things. Not disagreeing with you guys, but bear in mind this is the same movie series where the main character built a particle accelerator in his house and made a new element that not only completed his fathers legacy but also saved him from the unstable, poisonous material that powers his body. Very, very little about the iron man movies makes any sense. This is actually a very good point, and suspension of disbelief is key to enjoying certain kinds of movies. Also, having a bad short-term memory helps as well (which I kind of do)But what I don't like is how + Show Spoiler + so many of the fights made so little tactical sense. First of all, you should engage Extremis agents at range, instead of closing in for melee/short range combat EVERY TIME. Secondly, why are all of Iron Man's suits so bloody fragile? Getting hit by a tractor trailer shatters it. Extremis agents just pull off parts of the suit with their bare hands. Extremis agents touching/"superheating" just a small segment of the armor causes the whole suit to lock up? What is this...?! | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On May 06 2013 04:52 zz_ wrote: Show nested quote + On May 05 2013 15:50 Gahlo wrote: What really bothered me about this movie? 1. Lets make an excuse for 42 different models of Iron Man suit toys + battle damage ones! 2. You're releasing a movie set around the holiday season IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY. At least make it near July 4th. You must've really liked the movie if these were the only things you were really upset about. I'm a pretty soft target when it comes to movies and games. It takes a lot for me to hate something. Also, while I like super hero stuff, I never had the chance to get engrossed in it as a kid. So things like continuity don't bother me. My friends on the other hand... | ||
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Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Germany2959 Posts
On May 06 2013 08:29 Jacmert wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:47 Defacer wrote: On May 06 2013 07:40 ZackAttack wrote: On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. Especially when there was that one huge suit specifically build for lifting heavy things. Not disagreeing with you guys, but bear in mind this is the same movie series where the main character built a particle accelerator in his house and made a new element that not only completed his fathers legacy but also saved him from the unstable, poisonous material that powers his body. Very, very little about the iron man movies makes any sense. This is actually a very good point, and suspension of disbelief is key to enjoying certain kinds of movies. Also, having a bad short-term memory helps as well (which I kind of do)But what I don't like is how + Show Spoiler + so many of the fights made so little tactical sense. First of all, you should engage Extremis agents at range, instead of closing in for melee/short range combat EVERY TIME. Secondly, why are all of Iron Man's suits so bloody fragile? Getting hit by a tractor trailer shatters it. Extremis agents just pull off parts of the suit with their bare hands. Extremis agents touching/"superheating" just a small segment of the armor causes the whole suit to lock up? What is this...?! That's my view as well, as long as it makes halfway sense in the movie's universe I'm perfectly fine with it. Plot holes sure as hell don't meet that criteria for me. So when you have to wonder why Tony didn't get his backup on the first attack on his home it's in my opinion not the best to answer with "well it was pretty out of the blue, he didn't get time to think about it". Although that can be a valid explanation it doesn't feel like the movie earned it and it's much more something the audience have to come up with in defense of the plot hole. This stuff is more okay if it's addressed in some other way, e.g. in this case if Tony made a remark as to why he didn't think about using those things during the first attack. Overall my suspension of disbelief suffers greatly throughout Iron Man 2 and 3 especially though. As mentioned by others, yes, he may be in a super advanced suit but... holy fuck he crashes into stuff with such high velocity so goddamn many times that even if he builds some kind of magic into that armor I cannot imagine that not hurting him (okay, actually killing him in most cases). I mean I get it, his suit is amazing. But it defies inane acceleration? Then mention that at least. Like "my new *bullshiTechXYZ* allows prevents any harm from this stuff!" There just seem to be so darn many inconsistencies and questionable occurrences that it takes me out of the experience ot a degree. I also don't know what to think about action sequences in a movie like this. Sure, in theory those are some great, fun scenes but it doesn't have any impact in regards to the characters to me. I don't know what boundaries e.g. the suits have in Iron Man. I'm kinda unable to be afraid s.th. bad is gonna happen to Tony in a battle because for what I know the next attack on his suit may completely destroy it or not even create a scratch. Again, as mentioned here before, that stuff kinda manifests against those Extremis folks. How long do these armors withstand extreme heat / how well do they isolate? Are the Extremis super strong too now? Strong enough to harm the suit? Welp, it's all stuff that can go either way, just how the script wants it. I mean suddenly the previously incredible powerful suits get torn apart with ease by those guys... (But then also the Extremis seem to try their best to never hurt the person that's inside (when it isn't unmanned of course). I guess that's more of a problem with the age restrictions but yeah, you get my point, it makes it just that much more predictable.) Or when Tony's suit cannot support more than holding 3 extra people and he just picks them up anyways and tells them to hold themselves together by giving hands :| First of all that would be unbelievably straining on some of the less trained folks and also Tony still has to hold up all the weight... Not to mention or old friend acceleration. He picks up the last person at like 100 feet or meters above the sea, right? Well that last person was falling at high velocity, one which needed to be exceeded by tony to pick em up. He then manages to slow down so quickly that he can even lift those guys up again for a short duration before dropping them in? Okay. Again, that would be ridiculously straining on those folks, probably even impossible if someone did the math. I don't know but for example movies like Spiderman 1 and 2 and X-Men 2 do a much better job in those regards. Especially in X-Men 2 there are much more super powers at force and yet the battles are really interesting to me because it feels like you know the characters have limits and everyone is using their abilities in a clever way. Darn, that was longer than I intended and I also do realize that I don't write very well readable English (no flow / good sentence structure etc.), but oh well. Had to get that off my heart! edit: Some better terms to describe one of the things I just said, I need to roughly know a characters limits so that the character feels vulnerable in certain dire situations and I can emphasize with him/her. In Iron Man's cases the limits of the character as well as his suits are all over the place. | ||
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UdderChaos
United Kingdom707 Posts
Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film. Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding? Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways. The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters. | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On May 06 2013 10:21 UdderChaos wrote: Just saw this movie, and i thought it was pretty bad. I really liked the iron man series, yes the second movie wasn't as good as the first, but the overall series so far was brilliant. This movie sucked. They spent most of the start of the film building up the Mandarin, only to turn out to be the butt of a joke. This was hilarious but completely out of place, and ruined the movie imo. Why develop a villain for a large part of the movie only to become a joke, this isn't a comedy, and it didn't work. Next the movie spent a lot of time on things that i didn't really care about, such as the kid storyline. This was pointless and didn't really serve a proper purpose, and any relationship or human side supposed to be shown was underdeveloped. Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film. Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding? Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways. The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters. 2 things. First, these ARE comedies. Action-comedies define the Marvel movies. Second, he isn't quitting Iron Man. He is just cutting back on his obsessive need to constantly build more, hence him destroying them at the end. He will still have a few suits and will still be Iron Man for all intents and purposes. Hell, he even says that he is still Iron Man as the movie ends. | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
On May 06 2013 10:21 UdderChaos wrote: Just saw this movie, and i thought it was pretty bad. I really liked the iron man series, yes the second movie wasn't as good as the first, but the overall series so far was brilliant. This movie sucked. They spent most of the start of the film building up the Mandarin, only to turn out to be the butt of a joke. This was hilarious but completely out of place, and ruined the movie imo. Why develop a villain for a large part of the movie only to become a joke, this isn't a comedy, and it didn't work. Next the movie spent a lot of time on things that i didn't really care about, such as the kid storyline. This was pointless and didn't really serve a proper purpose, and any relationship or human side supposed to be shown was underdeveloped. Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film. Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding? Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways. The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters. This is exactly how I feel about it as well. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 10:50 On_Slaught wrote: + Show Spoiler + On May 06 2013 10:21 UdderChaos wrote: Just saw this movie, and i thought it was pretty bad. I really liked the iron man series, yes the second movie wasn't as good as the first, but the overall series so far was brilliant. This movie sucked. They spent most of the start of the film building up the Mandarin, only to turn out to be the butt of a joke. This was hilarious but completely out of place, and ruined the movie imo. Why develop a villain for a large part of the movie only to become a joke, this isn't a comedy, and it didn't work. Next the movie spent a lot of time on things that i didn't really care about, such as the kid storyline. This was pointless and didn't really serve a proper purpose, and any relationship or human side supposed to be shown was underdeveloped. Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film. Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding? Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways. The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters. 2 things. First, these ARE comedies. Action-comedies define the Marvel movies. Second, he isn't quitting Iron Man. He is just cutting back on his obsessive need to constantly build more, hence him destroying them at the end. He will still have a few suits and will still be Iron Man for all intensive purposes. Hell, he even says that he is still Iron Man as the movie ends. There's a couple of things going on with the ending. + Show Spoiler + 1) It actually gave Tony Stark's character an arc, and addresses the outstanding issue of why Tony just doesn't get open heart surgery already. The reactor in his chest represented a character flaw or crutch that finally got resolved. 2) It more importantly gave Marvel 'an out,' in the event that they want to continue the Iron Man series without Robert Downey Jr. RDJ is getting older and I'm sure at some point he's going to get tired of making the same fucking movie every two years. One of the big problems with the movie is the marketing. They ads make it look like a sombre, super-serious finale to a trilogy, similar to Dark Knight Rises, with a villain that finally puts Tony Stark to the test. "Do you want an empty life or a meaningful death." Warning: The movie is almost the exact opposite of that. It is a goofy action comedy with funny one-liners. In a weird way, the marketing makes the plot twist much more effective and unexpected, but I can certainly understand why it would piss off hardcore comic or Iron Man fans. | ||
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + I took it much less literally than people seem to be, and just him suggesting that he's going to reinvent the iron-man technology, so that there isn't a need for a "suit", like the "current" ones he was using. AKA ermagerd suits under mah skins. and yay character growth bla bla bla | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really understand the villain's motive. He has this badass army of superhumans, sets up a bunch of bombings, steals the Iron Patriot and tries to execute the president, but what was his reason? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On May 06 2013 12:33 Coppermantis wrote: + Show Spoiler + Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really understand the villain's motive. He has this badass army of superhumans, sets up a bunch of bombings, steals the Iron Patriot and tries to execute the president, but what was his reason? + Show Spoiler + He's jealous of Tony and wants power. That's it. He's a pretty pathetic villain. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On May 06 2013 12:46 TheTenthDoc wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 12:33 Coppermantis wrote: + Show Spoiler + Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really understand the villain's motive. He has this badass army of superhumans, sets up a bunch of bombings, steals the Iron Patriot and tries to execute the president, but what was his reason? + Show Spoiler + He's jealous of Tony and wants power. That's it. He's a pretty pathetic villain. + Show Spoiler + I believe it to be slightly more elaborate than that: He wants to be significant in this world. Remember where he explained Tony about how he waited on the roof, the first 20 minutes actually thinking Tony would show up, the next couple of hours debating if he should take the "1-step shortcut to the lobby" and as he did that he realized that his death would not have any sort of impact on the world and he would be completely forgotten. I that was the first spark of motivation and how do you get influence as a puppeteer? You put your men in places of power (the vice-president) and control their actions until you are ready to reveal yourself. Whilst definitely not the best villain in recent movies I think that is sadly one of the flaws of Iron Man and to be honest I think his motivations holds water. Heck that is one of the things that drives me as a person: I want to leave a (positive :p ) imprint on this world. I will say I think he was rather idiotic though, but there were plenty of inexplicable things in the movie. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 06 2013 13:13 Ghostcom wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 12:46 TheTenthDoc wrote: On May 06 2013 12:33 Coppermantis wrote: + Show Spoiler + Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really understand the villain's motive. He has this badass army of superhumans, sets up a bunch of bombings, steals the Iron Patriot and tries to execute the president, but what was his reason? + Show Spoiler + He's jealous of Tony and wants power. That's it. He's a pretty pathetic villain. + Show Spoiler + I believe it to be slightly more elaborate than that: He wants to be significant in this world. Remember where he explained Tony about how he waited on the roof, the first 20 minutes actually thinking Tony would show up, the next couple of hours debating if he should take the "1-step shortcut to the lobby" and as he did that he realized that his death would not have any sort of impact on the world and he would be completely forgotten. I that was the first spark of motivation and how do you get influence as a puppeteer? You put your men in places of power (the vice-president) and control their actions until you are ready to reveal yourself. Whilst definitely not the best villain in recent movies I think that is sadly one of the flaws of Iron Man and to be honest I think his motivations holds water. Heck that is one of the things that drives me as a person: I want to leave a (positive :p ) imprint on this world. I will say I think he was rather idiotic though, but there were plenty of inexplicable things in the movie. + Show Spoiler + That is how I saw it as well, but I think he did have some motivation to help man kind for good. When he met with Pepper in the beginning to show off his research and experiment. He showed a presentation of how the human brain has space to grow. He wanted mankind to evolve. The problem is that Extremis was not stable and it reacts differently for each person. Some will not accept and it causes them to blow up such as the soldier in Tennessee while others such as Savin and Brandt become violent assassins. Pepper was able to control it to a degree when she had the urge to kill Killian. Killian looked like he was one of the few that was able to control it while not being so pissed off. Again, this goes back to why he wanted Stark Industry to fund his project, so he can work out the kinks. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On May 06 2013 13:24 zoLo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 13:13 Ghostcom wrote: On May 06 2013 12:46 TheTenthDoc wrote: On May 06 2013 12:33 Coppermantis wrote: + Show Spoiler + Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really understand the villain's motive. He has this badass army of superhumans, sets up a bunch of bombings, steals the Iron Patriot and tries to execute the president, but what was his reason? + Show Spoiler + He's jealous of Tony and wants power. That's it. He's a pretty pathetic villain. + Show Spoiler + I believe it to be slightly more elaborate than that: He wants to be significant in this world. Remember where he explained Tony about how he waited on the roof, the first 20 minutes actually thinking Tony would show up, the next couple of hours debating if he should take the "1-step shortcut to the lobby" and as he did that he realized that his death would not have any sort of impact on the world and he would be completely forgotten. I that was the first spark of motivation and how do you get influence as a puppeteer? You put your men in places of power (the vice-president) and control their actions until you are ready to reveal yourself. Whilst definitely not the best villain in recent movies I think that is sadly one of the flaws of Iron Man and to be honest I think his motivations holds water. Heck that is one of the things that drives me as a person: I want to leave a (positive :p ) imprint on this world. I will say I think he was rather idiotic though, but there were plenty of inexplicable things in the movie. + Show Spoiler + That is how I saw it as well, but I think he did have some motivation to help man kind for good. When he met with Pepper in the beginning to show off his research and experiment. He showed a presentation of how the human brain has space to grow. He wanted mankind to evolve. The problem is that Extremis was not stable and it reacts differently for each person. Some will not accept and it causes them to blow up such as the soldier in Tennessee while others such as Savin and Brandt become violent assassins. Pepper was able to control it to a degree when she had the urge to kill Killian. Killian looked like he was one of the few that was able to control it while not being so pissed off. Again, this goes back to why he wanted Stark Industry to fund his project, so he can work out the kinks. + Show Spoiler + I think someone mentions it in the movie, but part of the reason why Killian is keen on developing Extremis and why he believes it has a future is because of the events of the Avengers. The world is still recovering and trying to adjust to a reality with superheroes, gods and earth and aliens, and Extremis is seen as a way of evening the playing field. | ||
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Shinta)
United States1716 Posts
On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. Erg... Come on man... + Show Spoiler + The "30 more suits" he had were not finished yet. They were being worked on under his lab, and the suit he was struggling with was the live protocol that he was using to test the technology. That's what I saw at least. But the part of your post that I'm really unsatisfied with is the Captain America bit. Ofc he's not there.... He's living his own life and isn't being personally attacked by one of his personal enemies. The movies story line doesn't take place over a huge course of time either. Why would Captain America search aimlessly for an Iron Man that is thought to be dead, just so he can save/help him? Also, how would he have intel on the antagonist when all of his information was under the radar to literally everyone. How do you expect him to butt in with literally 0 information on ANYTHING.... On May 06 2013 12:33 Coppermantis wrote: + Show Spoiler + Perhaps I missed something, but I didn't really understand the villain's motive. He has this badass army of superhumans, sets up a bunch of bombings, steals the Iron Patriot and tries to execute the president, but what was his reason? + Show Spoiler + Because it would give him the presidency, thus giving him everything. He would own the United States, and he would own the weapons market. Pretty much what Stark Enterprises had before, except having literal control over the government rather than just being their sole weapons providers. He was a scientist ya? What he wants is to share his "greatest invention", but nobody would buy it, so he was going to take control so that he wouldn't need anyone to buy it. He would just order everyone to use it without having any other options. Overall though, I'm very displeased with the plot of the movie. Seemed they were too focused on other things that the plot wasn't payed attention to enough. Aside from that, the movie was pretty good. I can say that I enjoyed the movie. I really did... But it wasn't great, and I wanted it to be great. The series deserved a better 3rd movie than a "pretty good movie that I'd watch". It was entertaining, but not thorough. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
when a terrorist is hacking ever major news channel in USA to threaten the president of the united states and subsequently abducts him - even if he had a personal life of his own. Furthermore it would be out of captain america to NOT look after his friends. The only explanation is that he is occupied somewhere else - for example with the winter soldier. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 06 2013 10:21 UdderChaos wrote: Just saw this movie, and i thought it was pretty bad. I really liked the iron man series, yes the second movie wasn't as good as the first, but the overall series so far was brilliant. This movie sucked. They spent most of the start of the film building up the Mandarin, only to turn out to be the butt of a joke. This was hilarious but completely out of place, and ruined the movie imo. Why develop a villain for a large part of the movie only to become a joke, this isn't a comedy, and it didn't work. Next the movie spent a lot of time on things that i didn't really care about, such as the kid storyline. This was pointless and didn't really serve a proper purpose, and any relationship or human side supposed to be shown was underdeveloped. Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film. Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding? Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways. The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters. The Mandarin as it is set up at the start was a joke in itself. I mean, can you get more stereotypical than this guy? How it actually turned out was better :D | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 06 2013 17:22 Ghostcom wrote: ^ Pretty sure Captain America would be called in + Show Spoiler + when a terrorist is hacking ever major news channel in USA to threaten the president of the united states and subsequently abducts him - even if he had a personal life of his own. Furthermore it would be out of captain america to NOT look after his friends. The only explanation is that he is occupied somewhere else - for example with the winter soldier. + Show Spoiler + Agreed. Set photos of the upcoming Captain America sequel shows Captain America and Black Widow rebelling against SHIELD, so we can assume that they were too caught up being on the run and dealing with the Winter Soldier. The US gov't fell for Killian's decoys, so it is not too far off that SHIELD could have fell for them too. Don Cheadle said that he might reprise his role in the Captain America sequel, which gives them a reason to explain more on this topic. | ||
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GTPGlitch
5061 Posts
On May 06 2013 07:19 Ghostcom wrote: Show nested quote + On May 06 2013 07:14 GTPGlitch wrote: On May 06 2013 06:51 ZackAttack wrote: I was really hyped about this movie because I thought the avengers was awesome, but I really didn't like this movie. There were plot holes like crazy. My biggest problem was that the whole movie he is struggling with a crappy suit, and trying to get by with a broken down beta-suit. Then at the end he's like, "lol I had 30 more suits I pretended I didn't have the whole time". Why didn't he ever use any of those? Also, where the fuck was Captain America? It is fine to not have in in the movie but at least mention why he is suspiciously absent from a fight that he obviously should be a part of. He couldn't use any of the other suits because + Show Spoiler + they were fuckin buried underneath the rubble that used to be IM's house. Jarvis explicitly mentions "The cranes have arrived" and they show a scene where the rubble has been removed from the suit hive, then the door opens and badass suit attack occurs. + Show Spoiler + Considering how Tony Stark is buried beneath that very same rubble but gets out by Jarvis detaching the glove and the pulling him combined with how well-armed the suits are that is a piss poor explanation. + Show Spoiler + It's different rubble. The suits don't fall into the ocean, the hive is still on the hill. Plus, the ocean rubble can be explodered because there's basically just the big piece blocking stark's way out, but if you try to explode a hill and you do it wrong, the hive might fall into the ocean and that would be bad :d | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + “If you were forced to say, ‘who is Iron Man’s greatest foe,’ you’d probably have to say The Mandarin,” says producer and Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige. “It’s not because he’s been in a ton of quintessentially classic stories — because he hasn’t been, really. He’s just been around a lot. He just goes back a long, long time.” The Mandarin made his first appearance in Tales of Suspense #50 in 1964. In the comic book mythology, he was was a Chinese exile who ends up exploring a remote, forbidden valley where he finds the ruins of a crashed alien spaceship. Inside the craft, he discovers ten power rings, each with a different ability, which allow him to unleash havoc on the world. When Feige and Co. were putting together the first Iron Man movie, it seemed like a natural decision: The villain had to be The Mandarin. They even announced he would be the heavy when they first came to Comic-Con in 2006. “He was in every Iron Man 1 script until about 10 weeks before we started filming,” says Feige. “He was a contemporary of Tony Stark. He was younger. He was involved in business deals with [Stark.]” This Mandarin was trying to secure Stark’s vast weapons manufacturing resources, and Jeff Bridges’ character — Obadiah Stane, a mentor of Stark’s, would have been a kind of sidekick villain. “We’d have revealed that Obadiah was the mole on the inside,” Feige says. “But it did’t work. It didn’t work.” So they took it out. And Obadiah Stane was promoted to Public Enemy No. 1, sporting a primitive form of the armor for a final battle as the Iron Monger. “So Mandarin has always been this sort of thing where, ‘Boy, we’d love to do the Mandarin — but thank God we took The Mandarin out of Iron Man 1.” The Mandarin didn’t make the cut for Iron Man 2 either, with Mickey Rourke’s Whiplash serving as the main heavy instead. Tom Hiddleston’s celestial troublemaker Loki was the prime antagonist in The Avengers. But when it came time to produce Iron Man 3 — what could be the last of the Tony Stark stand-alone films (at least for several years) — they finally decided to pull the trigger on Iron Man’s “greatest” foe. But there was still a problem. “Marvel was of a mind … they wanted to know how to do the Mandarin,” Iron Man 3 director and co-writer Shane Black tells EW. “Part of it was that we would rather have the Mandarin be of indeterminate ethnicity than the Fu Manchu stereotype that the comic books portrayed, but that’s not the only reason,” Black says. “I wanted to do something that was an interesting story choice, that felt like there was a little bit of satire, that was a little bit about our own fear and our own ways of viewing villains.” Love or hate it, you can’t deny that what they ultimately did to this version of The Mandarin was a bold and risky choice. -- It was not an easy choice to greenlight, but Marvel chief Feige says it’s sometimes important to break with tradition, even at the risk of alienating some purists. “Shane really had a lot of great ideas about identity and about false faces and about anonymity,” he said. Black and co-writer Drew Pearce proposed this argument in favor of The Mandarin twist: “What if he’s sort of this all-things-to-all-people uber-terrorist? What if he is the myth, and in the end that is what we’re dealing with, a created myth that [a research group] has perpetuated and cobbled together using elements from popular consciousness,” Black says. “It felt like it said more about the world we live in than just having [Iron Man] fight another terrorist, as opposed to putting a spin on it that said something about the way we view terror, perhaps.” “What it says to me is, we have to be careful. We want to find villains in the world, but it’s a complex world,” Black adds. “If you’re smart in this world, you’ll rule by proxy because the minute you stick your face out there and assign yourself to the role of international villain you become this symbolic target.” Was it hard to persuade Marvel to take that leap with one of its classic villains? “Do they hand me a blank check and say, ‘Go break something!’ Or, ‘Go violate some long-standing comic book treaty that fans have supported for years?’ No, but they’ll say: ‘Let’s break something together,’” Black says. “So it’s okay to come up with these crazy things, these far out ideas … and they’ll fly. It’s just that the Marvel guys have to be in the room.” http://insidemovies.ew.com/2013/05/04/iron-man-3-mandarin-spoiler/ | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
While I watched pretty much every superhero movie of the last decade I gotta admit I'm not really knowledgable when it comes to the comics so maybe someone can explain me abit more about the whole villain thing since I didn't really get man-thing concept. What exactly did the biology girl and killean create there and why can they destroy Stark's suit by only touching it with super heat or even slice through it like it was butter while a punch of a god like Thore barely puts a dent into his suit :D | ||
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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targ
Malaysia445 Posts
On May 07 2013 08:06 AsnSensation wrote: Just watched the movie, overall really enjoyed since I'm not going into the first big blockbuster of the year expecting a super complex movie with no plot holes etc. Just enjoy it as an action movie with superb animations and the epic one liners of RDJ already make the 12€ I paid for it worth :D While I watched pretty much every superhero movie of the last decade I gotta admit I'm not really knowledgable when it comes to the comics so maybe someone can explain me abit more about the whole villain thing since I didn't really get man-thing concept. What exactly did the biology girl and killean create there and why can they destroy Stark's suit by only touching it with super heat or even slice through it like it was butter while a punch of a god like Thore barely puts a dent into his suit :D Yea I was wondering this too, normal humans with some virus injected can beat Stark's armor in hand-to-hand? Seems ridiculous to me when it can fight on even footing with Thor (at least for a while). Don't tell me the Extremis virus makes humans even stronger than Asgardians? | ||
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ETisME
12530 Posts
On May 07 2013 12:19 targ wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2013 08:06 AsnSensation wrote: Just watched the movie, overall really enjoyed since I'm not going into the first big blockbuster of the year expecting a super complex movie with no plot holes etc. Just enjoy it as an action movie with superb animations and the epic one liners of RDJ already make the 12€ I paid for it worth :D While I watched pretty much every superhero movie of the last decade I gotta admit I'm not really knowledgable when it comes to the comics so maybe someone can explain me abit more about the whole villain thing since I didn't really get man-thing concept. What exactly did the biology girl and killean create there and why can they destroy Stark's suit by only touching it with super heat or even slice through it like it was butter while a punch of a god like Thore barely puts a dent into his suit :D Yea I was wondering this too, normal humans with some virus injected can beat Stark's armor in hand-to-hand? Seems ridiculous to me when it can fight on even footing with Thor (at least for a while). Don't tell me the Extremis virus makes humans even stronger than Asgardians? I do think every super heroes in avengers got their power even-ed out, thor is not as strong, iron man a bit too strong, hulk can be even stronger, he could handle the whole thing himself to be honest. | ||
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SayGen
United States1209 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + who is the Dr, and what is his purpose? | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On May 07 2013 08:15 shizaep wrote: Saw this flick today. If you go in expecting an action flick with nice effects and some one-liners, then it's a pretty solid flick. Obviously, no deep philosophical lessons to be learned here, but that's not it's purpose. Kept me interested and I have to say that I enjoyed it. That's what most generic super hero/comic book movies are like though so I guess it fits the bill. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 07 2013 12:47 SayGen wrote: At the very end of the movie past the credits there is extra footage + Show Spoiler + who is the Dr, and what is his purpose? + Show Spoiler + Isn't he the Hulk? That's only what I heard, I didn't actually stay to watch it ![]() | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 07 2013 12:19 targ wrote: Show nested quote + On May 07 2013 08:06 AsnSensation wrote: Just watched the movie, overall really enjoyed since I'm not going into the first big blockbuster of the year expecting a super complex movie with no plot holes etc. Just enjoy it as an action movie with superb animations and the epic one liners of RDJ already make the 12€ I paid for it worth :D While I watched pretty much every superhero movie of the last decade I gotta admit I'm not really knowledgable when it comes to the comics so maybe someone can explain me abit more about the whole villain thing since I didn't really get man-thing concept. What exactly did the biology girl and killean create there and why can they destroy Stark's suit by only touching it with super heat or even slice through it like it was butter while a punch of a god like Thore barely puts a dent into his suit :D Yea I was wondering this too, normal humans with some virus injected can beat Stark's armor in hand-to-hand? Seems ridiculous to me when it can fight on even footing with Thor (at least for a while). Don't tell me the Extremis virus makes humans even stronger than Asgardians? You guys have to remember that some of Stark's armors are not meant for combat such as the suborbital armor, disaster rescue armor, hyper velocity armor, etc. If anything, some of the armors might not even complete yet besides the constructed build. We start off the movie with Stark testing out the Mark 42 and the new technology he implemented in the armor, so we can assume that he shifted focus on that. In one scene, the Mark 42 armor was being locked up below in the hall of armors, and if you look closely, some of the armors are not yet complete. As for Iron Man fighting almost on par with Thor, I interpret it as Thor going easy on Iron Man and not having the intention of killing him. Thor did look like he wanted to end the fight now before Captain America intervene. Then again, it could have been that Robert Downey Jr. didn't want to lose the fight, so he complained to Joss Whedon to make the fight look even =P On May 07 2013 12:47 SayGen wrote: At the very end of the movie past the credits there is extra footage + Show Spoiler + who is the Dr, and what is his purpose? + Show Spoiler + That is Bruce Banner (Hulk). His hair is shorter than it was in The Avengers, which is why some couldn't recognize him, | ||
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WilDMousE
Chile1335 Posts
On May 04 2013 17:38 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On May 04 2013 14:37 WilDMousE wrote: The last fight scene felt so uninspired and bland, like I was totally amazed on the + Show Spoiler + part were pepper "died", I was like "woah, srs shit going on, possibly more character development finally! at the cost of another sequel..." then nope, she was alive DEUS EX MACHINAE, the entire movie was filled with that :'c + Show Spoiler + unless you slept through the movie and woke up at that scene it was obvious she didn't die from that. The extremis exposed humans survived worse through the movie. + Show Spoiler + but the movie explicitly showed people blowing up due to the injection of the extremis, thus creating the posibility of her dying on the inestability after she fell to the ground... I was expecting a bit more interesting stuff rather than a deus ex machinae that made every kid happy | ||
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Qwyn
United States2779 Posts
I was under the impression that the human bombs were due to an overdose of extremis? Awesome movie, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and personally, it was my favorite of the series. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 07 2013 13:20 Qwyn wrote: + Show Spoiler + I was under the impression that the human bombs were due to an overdose of extremis? Awesome movie, I thoroughly enjoyed it, and personally, it was my favorite of the series. + Show Spoiler + That, and everyone takes the Extremis dosage differently. Like that one soldier, whose body didn't accept it, so he blew up. | ||
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
and i find those super dark and gritty super hero movies like batman really really tiring. I cant take that seriously. I fell asleep while watching the last one. I rather like it if the movie isnt too serious about all the silly action. Its just a movie where you dont question realism or plot holes. You just go with it, its a thin facade meant to entertain. Nothing more. You dont scratch and ask stupid questions because there are only stupid answers. Its a diverting movie. And well.. i could care less if it is true to the original comics. I think themes like anonymity and proxying are fitting more into the zeitgeist than just copying the themes from 50 years ago. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Yet, the avid Marvel fan in me can't accept how they scripted the Mandarin. Feels like such a farce. That aside, I enjoyed myself. Not as good as 1 but better than 2. The ending seemed rather closed-ended. Makes you wonder if there's going to be a 4. | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
Batman trilogy really set the bar high concerning the serious villains and stuff which I doubt Marvel could keep up with. | ||
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smr
Germany4808 Posts
On May 07 2013 20:48 NeoIllusions wrote: A fun and amusing movie for sure. RDJ continues to deliver. Yet, the avid Marvel fan in me can't accept how they scripted the Mandarin. Feels like such a farce. That aside, I enjoyed myself. Not as good as 1 but better than 2. I loved the Mandarin. + Show Spoiler + The guy with the beard. The ending seemed rather closed-ended. Makes you wonder if there's going to be a 4. + Show Spoiler + It said: "Tony Stark will return" at the end. Hope it was not a lie Saw the movie yesterday and enjoyed it alot. Was awesome to read "Ponytail Express" in the credits. Sadly not enough Pepper. Just sad I couldn't watch the english version in 2d. A lot of the scenes felt like shit in 3d. It's just not mine but I couldn't choose this time. edit: movie was a winner when the first song started. set me into the right mood. | ||
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Adrian_mx
Mexico1880 Posts
it was fucking awesome. enough said. | ||
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
On May 08 2013 14:08 Adrian_mx wrote: About to watch Iron man 3, pretty fucking excited thats for sure! Good movie if you are not an anal-retentive comic book nerd or super serious movie critic. RDJ gets to show off Stark's cleverness outside of his suit-tinkering, which I liked. Bad-guy was a written a little weak and his motivation wasn't really believable for the actions he did, but I do like + Show Spoiler + Guy Pierce The ending made me wonder if... + Show Spoiler + ... the Pepper Pots character wouldn't maybe end up as a super-hero herself with these extremis powers. Yea Stark said he was going to fix her but did we actually see that happen? At the very least he should make a suit for Pepper and train her how to use it so he wouldn't have to worry about her safety all the time. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen. | ||
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
On May 08 2013 22:45 Telcontar wrote: How in the world did they fuck up the best villain in Iron Man lore, so bad? Huge waste of Kingsley's talent as well as the character. I refuse to believe that Killian was the real Mandarin. I'm going to give these producers the benefit of the doubt here and assume there is some bigger over arching story around here...like Killian was the one manipulated the entire time. I still liked the movie but yea the way they did Mandarin made my popcorn taste bad. They did make Tony Stark show his cleverness in the rest of his life though and I do like seeing seriously flawed main characters work through their shit. It was certainly a good movie in that regard. but the Mandarin >>>>>>><<<<<< | ||
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flexgd
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On May 08 2013 22:40 NB wrote: + Show Spoiler + I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen. I love this | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On May 09 2013 06:27 AsnSensation wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2013 22:40 NB wrote: + Show Spoiler + I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen. I love this That's so convoluted though, haha. Not sure if even that would salvage the Mandarin storyline. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On May 09 2013 07:03 NeoIllusions wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2013 06:27 AsnSensation wrote: On May 08 2013 22:40 NB wrote: + Show Spoiler + I have never read the comic but i like an idea on reddit about the movie. It said that the entire plott of Iron Man 3 were just a setup of the Mandarin to 'teach Tony Stark a lesson'. Ben Kingsley is still the real Mandarin with the 10 Rings equipped, by which he controlled Killian to be his puppet. Trevor is either the real Mandarin OR a duplicate of the real Mandarin(he mentioned plastic surgery, could be lies) and will use this arrest to enter US, test out Iron Man power and seek a new source of power. Pretty much the entire movie i was hoping for it to be a double bluff but i guess it could be too much for the audience to handle. But there were definitely hints that it could happen. I love this That's so convoluted though, haha. Not sure if even that would salvage the Mandarin storyline. + Show Spoiler + To be honest, you could write a lot of fancy twisted plot using the power of the 10 rings alone. I think it came down to what do the writers want to do with The Mandarin personality. Could he be so willing to teach Iron Man a lesson and dip that low into such character as Trevor the actor? What interested me was the moment where his tone change after Tony Stark got knocked out in his bedroom. Its not Trevor's voice but Mandarin's who were speaking after being questioned "What did you tell him?". On Reddit they also brought up some speculation around how Trevor gave the vice president some clues over the phone call(?), i didnt read much into it but it seems totally plausible. A lot of people did raised a question, if Trevor is the real Mandarin, why did he acted like Trevor while he didnt know that Tony Stark was in the room. Personally i think it could either be him spotting Stark over his bathroom and changed into his character OR he was really committing to the plot that he set up. I think the key point of the scene where Trevor and Stark met for the first time, however, were how Trevor were mentioning Fortune cookies to the prostitutes. I think that has something to do with the deep personal background of the Mandarin and only the real one could be using such reference naturally. I personally hope that they could develop a sequel base on these clues the gave out this movie. I know having a 4th movie in the series might risk ruining the image of the entire series but so far the 3rd one was really well done and there isnt really any reason to stop here. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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GenesisX
Canada4267 Posts
pepper wasn't "fixed" off the extremis like they mentioned at the end. Would have made for a much more interesting character. | ||
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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
On May 18 2013 14:38 GenesisX wrote: Just watched it today. Thought it would have been more interesting if + Show Spoiler + pepper wasn't "fixed" off the extremis like they mentioned at the end. Would have made for a much more interesting character. Same(I walked out of the theater when you posted), it's a great movie! | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13293 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + a) The Mandarin: wtf were his motivations? I thought his character was pretty unoriginal and bland. The writers seemed to go with the whole anti-America thing which I though was a bit lazy and cliched. I never really got why the Mandarin hated the world so much. I thought it was a tad disappointing that the audience never really got to learn much about the Mandarin and just had to accept he was a crazy guy who hated America (fill me in if I'm wrong here). b) Wtf is with the death scenes? Killian can survive being blown up in Stark's Iron Man suit yet like 10 seconds later Potts blows him up herself. How do you kill the Extremis guys anyway? Why did they all turn into crazy zealots with the orange stuff in them but Pepper seems unaffected? I'm overthinking it too much | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On May 20 2013 11:32 RowdierBob wrote: I liked this movie, but thought it was let down in a couple of areas: + Show Spoiler + a) The Mandarin: wtf were his motivations? I thought his character was pretty unoriginal and bland. The writers seemed to go with the whole anti-America thing which I though was a bit lazy and cliched. I never really got why the Mandarin hated the world so much. I thought it was a tad disappointing that the audience never really got to learn much about the Mandarin and just had to accept he was a crazy guy who hated America (fill me in if I'm wrong here). b) Wtf is with the death scenes? Killian can survive being blown up in Stark's Iron Man suit yet like 10 seconds later Potts blows him up herself. How do you kill the Extremis guys anyway? Why did they all turn into crazy zealots with the orange stuff in them but Pepper seems unaffected? I'm overthinking it too much I'm a bit confused... Did you miss the whole + Show Spoiler + Mandarin is a puppet created for the sole purpose of misdirection | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia13293 Posts
When I say the Mandarin I'm referring to + Show Spoiler +Killian | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On May 20 2013 12:05 RowdierBob wrote: No I got that--it would be hard to miss When I say the Mandarin I'm referring to + Show Spoiler +Killian Ah yes, well + Show Spoiler + I pretty much assumed it was because Killian was the down-trodden, spurned, and despised nerd-type who had been trying to catch a break for years, and when Tony stood him up, it was simply the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak. The anti-US sentiment seemed to be a poor excuse for a cover story for his Extremis test failures, which as you know had a tendency to explode. Weak explanations, I know, but expected from this movie type. You might find IGN's article on IM3 interesting given your thoughts on the movie :D http://au.ign.com/articles/2013/05/20/the-ultimate-iron-man-3-faq | ||
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JeYKaY
United States73 Posts
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Also, thoroughly enjoyed: + Show Spoiler + The conglomeration of major Iron Man villains without being too in your face. MODOK references with AIM and the "big brain", Fin Fang Foom with the dragon tattoos and firebreathing, and of course Mandarin. Definitely gave a feeling of a closing of the Iron Man franchise, though. Not that I'd mind, it's good to know they're willing to end a movie series before it's milked to death. On May 20 2013 12:05 RowdierBob wrote: No I got that--it would be hard to miss When I say the Mandarin I'm referring to + Show Spoiler +Killian + Show Spoiler + Killian had absolutely no anti-America or anti-World sentiments. He created a plot to cover-up all of the Extremis failures, and the easiest story for chain bombings is a terrorist group. His entire scheme basically was to develop bio-enhancement tech and then sell it to receive recognition and fame. Everything else was made up entirely on the fly based on all of the accidents, with several shifts in the plan when Iron Man and the military started to intervene. The only reason he wanted to kill the President was that the Vice-President was his monetary benefactor. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
Regarding the ending, massive spoilers: + Show Spoiler + I hate that they decided to give this such a final ending that involved the end of Iron Man. Does that mean we will have an Avengers II without him? That would suck donkey dongs... | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
I watched Star Trek a couple of days later and that movie is 10 times better than Iron Man 3. | ||
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On May 24 2013 05:17 Meow-Meow wrote: The way they showed Mandarin was the coolest, most unexpected way to portray a super villain, ever. Regarding the ending, massive spoilers: + Show Spoiler + I hate that they decided to give this such a final ending that involved the end of Iron Man. Does that mean we will have an Avengers II without him? That would suck donkey dongs... + Show Spoiler + I think I read somewhere that Robert Downey Jr. didn't want to play the Iron man character anymore so that is probably the reason for the ending/doubt he will be in avengers | ||
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Maxd11
United States680 Posts
Iron Man will return. (Did not specify when/the movie) Also if I remember correctly EDJ said in an interview that he might return as ironman if the contract negotiations worked out. I don't think it's quite safe to say that he won't be back as iron man or not yet. One thing that bothered me was + Show Spoiler + Tony had to have the (painful) injections for the mark 42 to latch onto him and he told Rhodie that the suit was only marked for him but he was able to send the suit right onto Pepper and Killian with no advanced notice. Okay maybe Pepper had the injections as well at some point(I don't remember how the injections were timed in accordance to the attack on his mansion)? But Killian certainly didn't. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 24 2013 07:03 Maxd11 wrote: Wow I am dissapointed in my fellow Marvel fans in this thread. Did none of you watch the scene after the credits and the message after it? + Show Spoiler + Iron Man will return. (Did not specify when/the movie) Also if I remember correctly EDJ said in an interview that he might return as ironman if the contract negotiations worked out. I don't think it's quite safe to say that he won't be back as iron man or not yet. One thing that bothered me was + Show Spoiler + Tony had to have the (painful) injections for the mark 42 to latch onto him and he told Rhodie that the suit was only marked for him but he was able to send the suit right onto Pepper and Killian with no advanced notice. Okay maybe Pepper had the injections as well at some point(I don't remember how the injections were timed in accordance to the attack on his mansion)? But Killian certainly didn't. + Show Spoiler + The Injections were remote controls. Hence why he points at Pepper and Killian to send the suit to them. They were needed to put the suit on, not use the suit. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
On May 24 2013 08:16 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2013 07:03 Maxd11 wrote: Wow I am dissapointed in my fellow Marvel fans in this thread. Did none of you watch the scene after the credits and the message after it? + Show Spoiler + Iron Man will return. (Did not specify when/the movie) Also if I remember correctly EDJ said in an interview that he might return as ironman if the contract negotiations worked out. I don't think it's quite safe to say that he won't be back as iron man or not yet. One thing that bothered me was + Show Spoiler + Tony had to have the (painful) injections for the mark 42 to latch onto him and he told Rhodie that the suit was only marked for him but he was able to send the suit right onto Pepper and Killian with no advanced notice. Okay maybe Pepper had the injections as well at some point(I don't remember how the injections were timed in accordance to the attack on his mansion)? But Killian certainly didn't. + Show Spoiler + The Injections were remote controls. Hence why he points at Pepper and Killian to send the suit to them. They were needed to put the suit on, not use the suit. + Show Spoiler + Which, combined with the idea of the extremis program in the movie, would obviously lead into the "i don't need to make a suit to wear I CAN HAVE IT INSIDE ME AND COME OUT", hence, the end of the "traditional" iron man suit he had been using. not the end of iron man. | ||
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Meow-Meow
Germany451 Posts
On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 25 2013 05:25 Meow-Meow wrote: Show nested quote + On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? + Show Spoiler + He had 42 armours fighting at the same time, but apparently powering 1 without a chest light is impossible? | ||
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snakeeyez
United States1231 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 24 2013 08:21 Mementoss wrote: Pro Tip: Don't wait for the credits they are fucking way too long, just youtube it when you get home Too late, wasn't worth the wait indeed . Well, but the movie was pretty good. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23576 Posts
On May 25 2013 06:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 05:25 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? + Show Spoiler + He had 42 armours fighting at the same time, but apparently powering 1 without a chest light is impossible? + Show Spoiler + Well also War Machine doesn't have an electro-magnet/chest-reactor thingy, so I wonder if it is even needed at this point. Seems like everyone can use the suits now if they are correctly calibrated. | ||
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sheaRZerg
United States613 Posts
The ending bothered me. So hes just going to completely give up his hobby of building super cool robot suits because it inconveniences the chick? Certainly there could be some middle ground? | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On May 25 2013 06:55 Musicus wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 06:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: On May 25 2013 05:25 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? + Show Spoiler + He had 42 armours fighting at the same time, but apparently powering 1 without a chest light is impossible? + Show Spoiler + Well also War Machine doesn't have an electro-magnet/chest-reactor thingy, so I wonder if it is even needed at this point. Seems like everyone can use the suits now if they are correctly calibrated. + Show Spoiler + Can't it be that the suits themselves have built-in arc reactors that don't necessitate the human inside them to have one in his chest? | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 25 2013 06:46 snakeeyez wrote: Movie is not good. Everyone else I know agrees. Too much cheese in the movie that destroyed iron man as a cool super hero. Calling his armor from anywhere alone is stupid enough to ruin it. It takes a certain amount of irony to say that "too much cheese" destroyed a "cool super hero". It is completely impossible to have one without the other...the only thing that matters is how much your suspend your disbelief. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + His home was attacked and he was presumed dead. Then he ends up in that Kid's shed. Then we see him driving a car, where did he get this car from? Also how did he pay for all that gear he bought in that shop before he attacked the Mandarin? Did he use a credit card? How would he have a credit card on him? He wouldn't have had his wallet on his person, cos he was at home working in his lab, and then he was attacked. Wasn't he presumed dead and lying low, so using a credit card would reveal he was alive and his location to the attackers. If he didn't use a credit card, then how did he get the money to buy all that stuff? I enjoyed the film but the above things just bugged me. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On May 25 2013 09:08 revel8 wrote: I have a few questions about the film... + Show Spoiler + His home was attacked and he was presumed dead. Then he ends up in that Kid's shed. Then we see him driving a car, where did he get this car from? Also how did he pay for all that gear he bought in that shop before he attacked the Mandarin? Did he use a credit card? How would he have a credit card on him? He wouldn't have had his wallet on his person, cos he was at home working in his lab, and then he was attacked. Wasn't he presumed dead and lying low, so using a credit card would reveal he was alive and his location to the attackers. If he didn't use a credit card, then how did he get the money to buy all that stuff? I enjoyed the film but the above things just bugged me. + Show Spoiler + It's the same car he took after the fight in the town. It probably belong to one of the Extremis soldiers. Most likely Ellen Brandt (the female Extremis assassin). Yes, he was presumed dead according to the newspaper and yet, the people in the town did not react to him coming into the bar despite his poor undercover disguise. As for his funds, for all we know, he probably had a wallet on him the whole time. It's not like he was completely naked. As for his enemies, we do not know nor did the movie established that they were searching for him via network such as phone calls, credit usage, etc. | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
On May 25 2013 09:47 zoLo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 09:08 revel8 wrote: I have a few questions about the film... + Show Spoiler + His home was attacked and he was presumed dead. Then he ends up in that Kid's shed. Then we see him driving a car, where did he get this car from? Also how did he pay for all that gear he bought in that shop before he attacked the Mandarin? Did he use a credit card? How would he have a credit card on him? He wouldn't have had his wallet on his person, cos he was at home working in his lab, and then he was attacked. Wasn't he presumed dead and lying low, so using a credit card would reveal he was alive and his location to the attackers. If he didn't use a credit card, then how did he get the money to buy all that stuff? I enjoyed the film but the above things just bugged me. + Show Spoiler + It's the same car he took after the fight in the town. It probably belong to one of the Extremis soldiers. Most likely Ellen Brandt (the female Extremis assassin). Yes, he was presumed dead according to the newspaper and yet, the people in the town did not react to him coming into the bar despite his poor undercover disguise. As for his funds, for all we know, he probably had a wallet on him the whole time. It's not like he was completely naked. As for his enemies, we do not know nor did the movie established that they were searching for him via network such as phone calls, credit usage, etc. + Show Spoiler + I seem to remember him taking the keys from the other guy who was holding the kid hostage, but I don't remember exactly so I might be wrong. It was definitely one of the two, however. | ||
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Lemure
189 Posts
On May 25 2013 07:22 kwizach wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 06:55 Musicus wrote: On May 25 2013 06:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: On May 25 2013 05:25 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? + Show Spoiler + He had 42 armours fighting at the same time, but apparently powering 1 without a chest light is impossible? + Show Spoiler + Well also War Machine doesn't have an electro-magnet/chest-reactor thingy, so I wonder if it is even needed at this point. Seems like everyone can use the suits now if they are correctly calibrated. + Show Spoiler + Can't it be that the suits themselves have built-in arc reactors that don't necessitate the human inside them to have one in his chest? + Show Spoiler + There were a few scenes that showed they were recharging the mark 42 at the kid's shed and while he was walking around with a car battery attached to his chest. I guess the suits have batteries. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
On May 25 2013 09:47 zoLo wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 09:08 revel8 wrote: I have a few questions about the film... + Show Spoiler + His home was attacked and he was presumed dead. Then he ends up in that Kid's shed. Then we see him driving a car, where did he get this car from? Also how did he pay for all that gear he bought in that shop before he attacked the Mandarin? Did he use a credit card? How would he have a credit card on him? He wouldn't have had his wallet on his person, cos he was at home working in his lab, and then he was attacked. Wasn't he presumed dead and lying low, so using a credit card would reveal he was alive and his location to the attackers. If he didn't use a credit card, then how did he get the money to buy all that stuff? I enjoyed the film but the above things just bugged me. + Show Spoiler + It's the same car he took after the fight in the town. It probably belong to one of the Extremis soldiers. Most likely Ellen Brandt (the female Extremis assassin). Yes, he was presumed dead according to the newspaper and yet, the people in the town did not react to him coming into the bar despite his poor undercover disguise. As for his funds, for all we know, he probably had a wallet on him the whole time. It's not like he was completely naked. As for his enemies, we do not know nor did the movie established that they were searching for him via network such as phone calls, credit usage, etc. + Show Spoiler + OK, taking the car from one of the Extremis guys makes sense. He does actually see one of them getting out of their car, while he is handcuffed. This is probably the car he used. | ||
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IronManSC
United States2119 Posts
The part I was pretty intrigued by was + Show Spoiler + ..when Stark was in his final fight and he would use his automated ironmen to "loan him parts" when he let go of certain ones during the fight to avoid critical injury/death, so each new part that he obtained he had a little something different. That was pretty neat. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On May 25 2013 10:41 Lemure wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 07:22 kwizach wrote: On May 25 2013 06:55 Musicus wrote: On May 25 2013 06:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: On May 25 2013 05:25 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? + Show Spoiler + He had 42 armours fighting at the same time, but apparently powering 1 without a chest light is impossible? + Show Spoiler + Well also War Machine doesn't have an electro-magnet/chest-reactor thingy, so I wonder if it is even needed at this point. Seems like everyone can use the suits now if they are correctly calibrated. + Show Spoiler + Can't it be that the suits themselves have built-in arc reactors that don't necessitate the human inside them to have one in his chest? + Show Spoiler + There were a few scenes that showed they were recharging the mark 42 at the kid's shed and while he was walking around with a car battery attached to his chest. I guess the suits have batteries. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but in the first movie the only reason Obadiah Stane struggled for so long to get his Iron Monger armor working was that he and his scientists couldn't get a power reactor to work like Stark's - and that's why he eventually had to steal Tony's reactor. If you can just get an armor to work by charging it with regular batteries and no arc reactor, it kind of defeats that entire plot point. I guess you could somehow reconcile the two by saying there's an integrated arc reactor in the suits now, and the reactor can also be recharged. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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whitecarabao
United States3 Posts
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phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
On May 27 2013 16:54 kwizach wrote: Show nested quote + On May 25 2013 10:41 Lemure wrote: On May 25 2013 07:22 kwizach wrote: On May 25 2013 06:55 Musicus wrote: On May 25 2013 06:43 WolfintheSheep wrote: On May 25 2013 05:25 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 06:46 kwizach wrote: On May 24 2013 05:23 Meow-Meow wrote: On May 24 2013 05:19 AsnSensation wrote: + Show Spoiler + He will most certainly take part in Avengers 2 and maybe 3 mainly because he gets 50Mill+ per Movie, it just marks an end for the Iron Man standalone series with Robert + Show Spoiler + I'm not doubting RDJ will be part of the movie, I'm just afraid that Iron Man won't. They took away his source of power, after all. How are his mass-produced suits supposed to compete with a Hulk or a demi-God when even a truck utterly obliterates them? + Show Spoiler + The truck only obliterated the Mark 42, which was the one designed to feature small independent parts that could fix themselves on his body separately to form the full armor together. His other, regular, suits can be assumed to be as resistant as they've always been shown to be (even though the Extremis soldiers were shown to be capable of going through them). Also, come Avengers 2, it could very well be the case that Tony Stark has learned how to ensure that a Mark 42-like armor (with independent parts) is now as solid and resistant as regular armors. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but how will he power them without his chest-reactor? + Show Spoiler + He had 42 armours fighting at the same time, but apparently powering 1 without a chest light is impossible? + Show Spoiler + Well also War Machine doesn't have an electro-magnet/chest-reactor thingy, so I wonder if it is even needed at this point. Seems like everyone can use the suits now if they are correctly calibrated. + Show Spoiler + Can't it be that the suits themselves have built-in arc reactors that don't necessitate the human inside them to have one in his chest? + Show Spoiler + There were a few scenes that showed they were recharging the mark 42 at the kid's shed and while he was walking around with a car battery attached to his chest. I guess the suits have batteries. + Show Spoiler + Yeah but in the first movie the only reason Obadiah Stane struggled for so long to get his Iron Monger armor working was that he and his scientists couldn't get a power reactor to work like Stark's - and that's why he eventually had to steal Tony's reactor. If you can just get an armor to work by charging it with regular batteries and no arc reactor, it kind of defeats that entire plot point. I guess you could somehow reconcile the two by saying there's an integrated arc reactor in the suits now, and the reactor can also be recharged. That's exactly what I had presumed. Don't think it's such a big deal, frankly. | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
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Jibba
United States22883 Posts
I don't mind the inconsistencies because it's a super hero movie, not a Sci Fi movie, but some of the decision making in the script was really stupid, the same way characters running off into the forest on their own in a horror movie is stupid. It wasn't as campy as Spiderman 3 and it was still better than Iron Man 2 but it was still kinda eh. It makes me worried for Pacific Rim. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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