Iron Man 3 - Page 14

On May 06 2013 10:21 UdderChaos wrote:
Just saw this movie, and i thought it was pretty bad. I really liked the iron man series, yes the second movie wasn't as good as the first, but the overall series so far was brilliant. This movie sucked. They spent most of the start of the film building up the Mandarin, only to turn out to be the butt of a joke. This was hilarious but completely out of place, and ruined the movie imo. Why develop a villain for a large part of the movie only to become a joke, this isn't a comedy, and it didn't work. Next the movie spent a lot of time on things that i didn't really care about, such as the kid storyline. This was pointless and didn't really serve a proper purpose, and any relationship or human side supposed to be shown was underdeveloped.

Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film.

Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding?

Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways.

The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters.

On May 06 2013 10:21 UdderChaos wrote:
Just saw this movie, and i thought it was pretty bad. I really liked the iron man series, yes the second movie wasn't as good as the first, but the overall series so far was brilliant. This movie sucked. They spent most of the start of the film building up the Mandarin, only to turn out to be the butt of a joke. This was hilarious but completely out of place, and ruined the movie imo. Why develop a villain for a large part of the movie only to become a joke, this isn't a comedy, and it didn't work. Next the movie spent a lot of time on things that i didn't really care about, such as the kid storyline. This was pointless and didn't really serve a proper purpose, and any relationship or human side supposed to be shown was underdeveloped.

Basically there was too many storylines that were undeveloped, this was the main pitfall of the film. An example was the botanist girl, she was actually a good storyline, but she didn't have enough screen time despite being the most interesting character after tony stark. Then there was the theme of him creating villains, this was a nice one, but this wasn't explored at all. It was mentioned in one line and then sort of left there like a metaphorical letter on the table, unopened. The same could be said about the other interesting line "you gave me the best gift of all, desperation" or something along that line. Really nice concept too, but then why was it just mentioned and not explored at all? We also didn't see any real transformation of the villain even when he was revealed, or any proper explanation of his motives. In fact he was almost forgettable, especially as you didn't think he the main enemy for a lot of the film.

Then there was Tony's anxiety attacks, the events of the avengers and the strain it caused on him an peppers relationship, with the added effect of his obsessive personality. This was at least given a bit of time and was a nice theme. It seemed that he was ignoring it, and then he started to loose pepper through his own actions and perhaps in the love interest of the villain. It look set up to be really interesting if tony had stayed "dead", allowing long enough for pepper to be swooned by this villain, with her anger at him not telling her of his death and the problems in the relationship already established, this crisis in character would have been great. Instead, like the mandarin, the strain of ther relationship was given screen time, only be deemed irrelevant. Considering so much of the story was not developed, it was ridiculous to spend so much time on this "internal crisis" and fake villain that didn't even need to be in the film. As soon as tony was supposedly killed with pepper there it forced her to make a choice between being a heartless bitch or caring that he died. Before she could get over the human reaction of being upset even if someone you've fallen out with for valid reasons dies, and remember what she was angry about, Tony is told to her to be alive. So what you might ask?, well this scene of the house destruction not only destroyed the house, but everything that had happened in the film up to that point plot wise. It didn't serve any meaningful purpose, it showed the mandarin meant business, but he turns out to be a fraud. And it completely nullifies the "im loosing pepper" plot line that so much time is spent on, through his death and then not death make pepper realise how much she really cares,and so she is no longer angry at him because she is happy he is just alive. This then distracts from the ending scene of him blowing up the suits, its meaning was destroyed with Tony's house. She already forgave him an hour or so ago in the film. Basically it's as if the writers realise that a lot of good films have the protagonist have an internal conflict, so they thought they better but a half arsed one in there, without understanding at all how this plot device works. or why to use it. Then we had the iron patriot plot-line, again undeveloped, didn't care about this guy, despite being in the previous film, don't know what purpose he really served other than taking up screen-time that desperately needed to be spent elsewhere, another unnecessary plot-line. The healing agent, again not fully explained, or explored, why did it need to blow people up as well? did this exploding part really add to the movie? What the actual fuck am i watching, why are people glowing orange healing and then exploding?

Then there was the pointless characters, the girl and the guy who tried to kill Tony, who had the healing shit, more unnecessary crap in the movie without a purpose. Their only purpose perhaps was to provide a "cool" action scene for the 3D cinema. And then the action scenes, oh dear. The fight at the end with the suits was horrible, confusing and boring. Oh and predictable, i mean seriously pepper gets injected with healing serum then dies 2 minutes later at the end of the film, and Tony is backed against a wall, wonder what happens next, oh heavens!, the suspense! And then the lame ending, so hes not going to be iron man now because hes decided to spend time on his wife, right. So she is so selfish she is happy to see him destroy a weapon that helps defend the helpless people of earth from aliens and other powerful things that we cant even imagine that clearly want to hurt us on a regular basis. What kind of physco women is she? Not to mention the utter crap of suspense of disbelief required in this film. Its a superhero movie, so you need to give it a good dose of lean-way when it comes to the ridiculous, but this film really took the piss. Even if this was a great movie, I'd let it slide but say it was a glaring issue with the movie. It was noticeably worse than the other iron man movies in terms of silly crap that made zero sense in about 19 different ways.

The only saving grace was that Robert Downey junior played it well, probably his better performance as ironman. They certainly kept the tone of iornman well, but perhaps to its detriment? The series has always been a bit self-satirising and quirky, with a large dose of humour. But it seems that there was nothing other than that to this film, because the convoluted terrible plot failed, along with most of the supporting characters.