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blinken
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada368 Posts
September 06 2012 00:44 GMT
#1061
I feel sorry for anyone who voted "no". It disturbs me to consider the mind that thinks that is a moral and just position.
Deleted User 255289
Profile Joined March 2012
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 04:30:35
September 06 2012 04:30 GMT
#1062
On September 05 2012 10:46 DigiGnar wrote:
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On September 05 2012 10:35 superbarnie wrote:
I say the government shouldn't try to control it since it makes it worse. However I believe that drug use of any kind including weed is really stupid and people who use drugs are low lifes that don't deserve to exist.



It's funny because people with terminal illness smoke weed. Guess they are low lives who deserve their death sentence. You must also be a wonderful person in life.

Maybe I should make it more precise.

I say the government shouldn't try to control weed because it is likely to make the situation worse then it already is. However I believe that the use of any kind of harmful drug including weed for recreational purposes is an idiotic idea and people who engage in such behavior are can be also described as such because they continue to do so even as it becomes obvious how badly they are squandering their [few] resources.
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Deleted User 255289
Profile Joined March 2012
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 04:46:12
September 06 2012 04:44 GMT
#1063
On September 06 2012 00:29 Nizaris wrote:
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On September 06 2012 00:18 D10 wrote:
On September 06 2012 00:08 r00ty wrote:
On September 05 2012 23:51 D10 wrote:
Its only a "conspiracy" because of how much people want to believe the crap they have been told


"Conspiracy" is maybe the wrong word. Sorry for that. But do you disagree, that pharma and agricultural companies try to influence government policy concerning legalization?

Also it's not some "crap i've been told". It's the logical consequence of the lobbyism system in the modern world. If you think they don't play a role, you're naive.

http://www.foodsafetynews.com/2012/03/monsanto-is-a-lobbying-powerhouse/#.UEdpwaPoHDE

edit: I don't know man, we basically have 100% the same opinion on this one, but you're talking of "crap i've been told".


I do agree, the reason weed has been treated the way it has, with asinine research and misinformation is because of the lobby of farmaceutical companies, im sure the producers of things that compete with weed would get involved, but the farmaceuticals are too big and too powerfull that they can lobby it alone


tobacco industry also lobbies against legalization because they think it would eat their market share.
big oil also since it can be used as a bio fuel,
the private prisons also lobby against legalization. if they legalize it prisons won't be overflowing anymore -> less profit.
the christians because some old book said it wasn't 'right'.




If by old book you meant the Bible, the Bible does not say anything about the recreational use of marijuana.

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cinnabun
Profile Joined October 2009
United States16 Posts
September 06 2012 05:48 GMT
#1064
Never, it promotes a culture of failure and inactivity at a time when we have a crushing lack of intellectual capital and a severe obesity epidemic. The taxes we would take in from regulating it as a legal product would be offset tenfold by the increasing medical treatments we would dish out as weed does, in fact, allow for massive amounts of particulate matter and hot air to rush into your lungs every time you smoke. This does cause diseases, and that it does not or has not been shown to cause cancer is not reason enough. The weed as a gateway drug argument is both unsound and unnecessary, there are more than enough reasons not to legalize it. And yes, I have tried it and many other substances in my time. I am just lucky that I didn't stick with it and become an underachieving loser like most of the people I went to school with who did pick it up. If you want to smoke weed, continue to do it, but I would hope for the rest of our sakes that you would do it somewhere where it is legal, and I hope against hope that that is never the United States of America.
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crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
September 06 2012 06:23 GMT
#1065
On September 06 2012 14:48 cinnabun wrote:
Never, it promotes a culture of failure and inactivity at a time when we have a crushing lack of intellectual capital and a severe obesity epidemic. The taxes we would take in from regulating it as a legal product would be offset tenfold by the increasing medical treatments we would dish out as weed does, in fact, allow for massive amounts of particulate matter and hot air to rush into your lungs every time you smoke. This does cause diseases, and that it does not or has not been shown to cause cancer is not reason enough. The weed as a gateway drug argument is both unsound and unnecessary, there are more than enough reasons not to legalize it. And yes, I have tried it and many other substances in my time. I am just lucky that I didn't stick with it and become an underachieving loser like most of the people I went to school with who did pick it up. If you want to smoke weed, continue to do it, but I would hope for the rest of our sakes that you would do it somewhere where it is legal, and I hope against hope that that is never the United States of America.


I respect your experience, and I may seen similar experience regarding seeing many people who uses it in a way that causes them to be overwhelmingly lazy. I see that this is a problem, and what bothers me, is that it is these people who causes weed such a bad name. I tell them this to their face.

Using it in good friendship at a good occasion, I dont see anything wrong with. What about those who uses weed good, like those who uses alcohol good?
Also, I would rather have one of my family member be dependend on weed, then being an alcoholic.
But yes, it affects me when people uses weed too much and become lazy "dumbasses". But I think, that if it wasn't for weed, they would pick up the bottle, sadly :s If my suspicion is right, I am happy they are hitting the bong, and not the bottle.
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 09:19:40
September 06 2012 09:01 GMT
#1066
On September 06 2012 13:30 superbarnie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:46 DigiGnar wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:35 superbarnie wrote:
I say the government shouldn't try to control it since it makes it worse. However I believe that drug use of any kind including weed is really stupid and people who use drugs are low lifes that don't deserve to exist.



It's funny because people with terminal illness smoke weed. Guess they are low lives who deserve their death sentence. You must also be a wonderful person in life.

Maybe I should make it more precise.

I say the government shouldn't try to control weed because it is likely to make the situation worse then it already is. However I believe that the use of any kind of harmful drug including weed for recreational purposes is an idiotic idea and people who engage in such behavior are can be also described as such because they continue to do so even as it becomes obvious how badly they are squandering their [few] resources.


So you don't consume alcohol, caffeine or nicotine?

Alcohol and cigarettes are more expensive here than weed if you are using a vaporizer.

On September 06 2012 14:48 cinnabun wrote:
Never, it promotes a culture of failure and inactivity at a time when we have a crushing lack of intellectual capital and a severe obesity epidemic. The taxes we would take in from regulating it as a legal product would be offset tenfold by the increasing medical treatments we would dish out as weed does, in fact, allow for massive amounts of particulate matter and hot air to rush into your lungs every time you smoke. This does cause diseases, and that it does not or has not been shown to cause cancer is not reason enough. The weed as a gateway drug argument is both unsound and unnecessary, there are more than enough reasons not to legalize it. And yes, I have tried it and many other substances in my time. I am just lucky that I didn't stick with it and become an underachieving loser like most of the people I went to school with who did pick it up. If you want to smoke weed, continue to do it, but I would hope for the rest of our sakes that you would do it somewhere where it is legal, and I hope against hope that that is never the United States of America.


Not true if you use a vaporizer. There is no smoke or long term harmful effects. You can get addicted, although the addiction is not even as strong as caffeine. You don't actually get addicted to the THC as much so as the experience, its kinda like wanting to drink alcohol because it makes parties more exciting if that makes any sense. For some reason its like if you can't stop yourself from drinking at a party, you are not addicted, you just like alcohol, but if its weed you are "addicted".

You can also get mild anxiety after about the second day of abstaining after frequent long sessions (a non-issue as you have to have a lot more than what people normally take), but it starts to get predictable so it doesn't affect you after a while and the episode only lasts about half an hour and then goes away, but at that point its also quite easy to quit about day after that as the addiction is always only short-term.
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Vaelone
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Finland4400 Posts
September 06 2012 09:07 GMT
#1067
I haven't ever used weed and I don't currently use alcohol/tobacco/coffee for that matter but with my limited understanding I can't see why weed would be any worse than alcohol, rather the opposite as too much alcohol breaks people pretty effectively.
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
September 06 2012 09:17 GMT
#1068
On September 06 2012 13:30 superbarnie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:46 DigiGnar wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:35 superbarnie wrote:
I say the government shouldn't try to control it since it makes it worse. However I believe that drug use of any kind including weed is really stupid and people who use drugs are low lifes that don't deserve to exist.



It's funny because people with terminal illness smoke weed. Guess they are low lives who deserve their death sentence. You must also be a wonderful person in life.

Maybe I should make it more precise.

I say the government shouldn't try to control weed because it is likely to make the situation worse then it already is. However I believe that the use of any kind of harmful drug including weed for recreational purposes is an idiotic idea and people who engage in such behavior are can be also described as such because they continue to do so even as it becomes obvious how badly they are squandering their [few] resources.


Except that weed isn't a harmful drug, at all.
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Poltergeist-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden336 Posts
September 06 2012 09:22 GMT
#1069
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.
gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
September 06 2012 09:42 GMT
#1070
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.
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Poltergeist-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden336 Posts
September 06 2012 09:49 GMT
#1071
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 11:17:10
September 06 2012 11:09 GMT
#1072
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

The only reasonable solution is to ban neither, since regardless if it's allowed or not ppl will do w/e the hell they want. At least that way you're not financing drug cartels and making ppl smoke shady shit off some shady dealer.
Poltergeist-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden336 Posts
September 06 2012 11:16 GMT
#1073
On September 06 2012 20:09 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

Call me crazy but I couldn't care less if alcohol was banned. If people stopped drinking it we would have a better world. As you may know though, they tried banning alcohol in the US some years ago but it wasn't successful. Presumably too many people were alcoholics and they found other ways to get it. I feel that allowing drugs into the mix just makes matters worse than it already is.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 11:19:45
September 06 2012 11:18 GMT
#1074
On September 06 2012 20:16 Poltergeist- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 20:09 Nizaris wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

Call me crazy but I couldn't care less if alcohol was banned. If people stopped drinking it we would have a better world. As you may know though, they tried banning alcohol in the US some years ago but it wasn't successful. Presumably too many people were alcoholics and they found other ways to get it. I feel that allowing drugs into the mix just makes matters worse than it already is.

i'm very aware that prohibition was a failure. What makes you think weed prohibition is any different? Not enough ppl addicted ? that's not even a reason.

i enjoy a beer once in a while and it would be stupid to forego such pleasure because some ppl are retards and can't stop drinking. honestly that's not my problem...
QLIQ
Profile Joined July 2012
United States6 Posts
September 06 2012 11:27 GMT
#1075
On September 06 2012 13:30 superbarnie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2012 10:46 DigiGnar wrote:
On September 05 2012 10:35 superbarnie wrote:
I say the government shouldn't try to control it since it makes it worse. However I believe that drug use of any kind including weed is really stupid and people who use drugs are low lifes that don't deserve to exist.



It's funny because people with terminal illness smoke weed. Guess they are low lives who deserve their death sentence. You must also be a wonderful person in life.

Maybe I should make it more precise.

I say the government shouldn't try to control weed because it is likely to make the situation worse then it already is. However I believe that the use of any kind of harmful drug including weed for recreational purposes is an idiotic idea and people who engage in such behavior are can be also described as such because they continue to do so even as it becomes obvious how badly they are squandering their [few] resources.

this guy is fucking right on every point the government shouldn't try to control weed that would be stupid that would be like trying to control the human and animal populations hes also right that people who smoke weed squander away their little bits of resources, he's also right on the fact that the only reason life is here and the ONLY reason why life is here is to accumulate said resources so that you can be financially secure for the Future. Future man, man..... i`m gonna kill myself
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t0ab
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden39 Posts
September 06 2012 11:28 GMT
#1076
As the great Bob Marley once said "Herb is the healing of a nation, alcohol is the destruction."
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
September 06 2012 11:28 GMT
#1077
Alcohol would be banned faster than fast if it was new and not so extremely culturally ingrained as it is. It's quite horrible how it ruins peoples lives but as we're all so used to it we just live with the consequences.

Weed seems quite harmless in comparison yet i don't really like how many of my friends who smoked alot turned out. It might not be addictive like nicotine or alcohol but it sure seems to lead to changes in overall behaviour, at least when used heavily.
Poltergeist-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden336 Posts
September 06 2012 11:32 GMT
#1078
On September 06 2012 20:18 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 20:16 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 20:09 Nizaris wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

Call me crazy but I couldn't care less if alcohol was banned. If people stopped drinking it we would have a better world. As you may know though, they tried banning alcohol in the US some years ago but it wasn't successful. Presumably too many people were alcoholics and they found other ways to get it. I feel that allowing drugs into the mix just makes matters worse than it already is.

i'm very aware that prohibition was a failure. What makes you think weed prohibition is any different? Not enough ppl addicted ? that's not even a reason.

i enjoy a beer once in a while and it would be stupid to forego such pleasure because some ppl are retards and can't stop drinking. honestly that's not my problem...

I guess I don't actually know if weed prohibition is failing on the same scale that alcohol prohibition failed. That was before my time In a way, yes I mean that not enough people are addicted (I don't actually know at all how much of a problem weed addiction is). If it is possible to keep the number of addicted people low, then why not? If you make it legal one time, you will never be able to come close to making it illegal in the future should you change your mind.

Yeah it isn't your problem as long as it doesn't affect you. Don't be so sure that someday some idiot that can't handle his/her alcohol will make it your problem in a big way.
D10
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Brazil3409 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 14:15:09
September 06 2012 14:03 GMT
#1079
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.


Do you advocate the banning of alcohol as well ? otherwise your position is kinda hypocritical


On September 06 2012 20:16 Poltergeist- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 20:09 Nizaris wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

Call me crazy but I couldn't care less if alcohol was banned. If people stopped drinking it we would have a better world. As you may know though, they tried banning alcohol in the US some years ago but it wasn't successful. Presumably too many people were alcoholics and they found other ways to get it. I feel that allowing drugs into the mix just makes matters worse than it already is.


How ? All I see is illegality creating criminals, destroying lives, and wasting public resources.



On September 06 2012 20:32 Poltergeist- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 20:18 Nizaris wrote:
On September 06 2012 20:16 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 20:09 Nizaris wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

Call me crazy but I couldn't care less if alcohol was banned. If people stopped drinking it we would have a better world. As you may know though, they tried banning alcohol in the US some years ago but it wasn't successful. Presumably too many people were alcoholics and they found other ways to get it. I feel that allowing drugs into the mix just makes matters worse than it already is.

i'm very aware that prohibition was a failure. What makes you think weed prohibition is any different? Not enough ppl addicted ? that's not even a reason.

i enjoy a beer once in a while and it would be stupid to forego such pleasure because some ppl are retards and can't stop drinking. honestly that's not my problem...

I guess I don't actually know if weed prohibition is failing on the same scale that alcohol prohibition failed. That was before my time In a way, yes I mean that not enough people are addicted (I don't actually know at all how much of a problem weed addiction is). If it is possible to keep the number of addicted people low, then why not? If you make it legal one time, you will never be able to come close to making it illegal in the future should you change your mind.

Yeah it isn't your problem as long as it doesn't affect you. Don't be so sure that someday some idiot that can't handle his/her alcohol will make it your problem in a big way.


Weed addiction is hardly even a problem, it doesnt cause chemical dependancy, only psichological habituation, in sum, weed has the same addictive power of the internet, you do it because its awesome and you dont want to forego that habit
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On September 06 2012 20:16 Poltergeist- wrote:
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On September 06 2012 20:09 Nizaris wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:49 Poltergeist- wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:42 gosuMalicE wrote:
On September 06 2012 18:22 Poltergeist- wrote:
The biggest reason I see for weed not being legalized is that somewhere there must be a line drawn. Obviously we can't let the world's people turn into a bunch of drug addicts. Now I am not very familiar with the drug world but I feel that someone who smokes weed has a much higher chance of getting into heavier drugs which truly mess people up.

What gives government the right to decide what people put into their bodies? If someone wants to indulge in amphetamines/opiates to the point where their life is in shambles than that should be their decision to make.

While I can certainly see where you are coming from and partially agree with that, I don't wanna live in a world where I see drug addicts laying on the street and can't do a thing. Now I don't really know how likely it is that it would get out of control but I don't know if it's worth the risk...

even if that was the case how it any different than today, you already live in a world like that. You see drunk ppl everywhere laying on the street not doing a thing, besides beating each other up.

If you have to draw line, at least make it coherent. Wan to ban weed? than ban alcohol. otherwise allow both. none of this politically motivated half measure bs.

Or even better ban alcohol since it's proved it's toxic and allow weed until some1 actually proves it's dangerous.

Call me crazy but I couldn't care less if alcohol was banned. If people stopped drinking it we would have a better world. As you may know though, they tried banning alcohol in the US some years ago but it wasn't successful. Presumably too many people were alcoholics and they found other ways to get it. I feel that allowing drugs into the mix just makes matters worse than it already is.


Weed prohibition is about as successful as the alcohol prohibition actually, so many people smoke weed anyway. Its just that this time politicians are sticking to their guns about it, for whatever reason.
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