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On January 23 2012 01:30 Dispersion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:
is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"? College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US. It's big deal. Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day. Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring. source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Bernabéu_StadiumCapacity - 85,454 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_StadiumCapacity - 109,901 Record attendance - 114k+
You all are talking about stadium sizes, you forget to factor in the people that watch it on TV as well. I bet the numbers swing to European football by a long shot.
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On January 23 2012 01:56 Omsomsoms wrote:
Regardless of the extent of his involvement, I'm absolutely disgusted by people who are willing to completely put aside the possibility he raped children because of his contributions to football.
Nobody believes he touched any children, that was Sandusky. JoePa knew about it and didn't tell anyone, which obviously is a terrible, terrible thing.
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RIP JoePa....
If you dont live in the States you should probably STFU since you don't know what this guy really did for Penn State and College Football as a whole. Most of you know only what happened the last few months which is sad 
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On January 23 2012 01:57 Skullflower wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:56 Omsomsoms wrote:
Regardless of the extent of his involvement, I'm absolutely disgusted by people who are willing to completely put aside the possibility he raped children because of his contributions to football. He didn't rape children. Jesus christ.
Edited because of mistake, sorry
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On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person.
User was temp banned for this post.
Dear god man. Dear god.
I'm glad you feel like you can give the judgement of death to someone you don't know. How secure of you.
Unacceptable.
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Your legacy of kindness, generosity, and perseverance will live on Joe Pa. Rest in peace. Yes he messed up bad late in life, but years of remarkable impacts on so many people will remain his legacy.
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On January 23 2012 01:56 Dispersion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:53 sparkk51 wrote:On January 23 2012 01:41 Dispersion wrote:On January 23 2012 01:39 Nizaris wrote:On January 23 2012 01:37 Mr Showtime wrote:On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person. You don't know shit about the guy. GTF...... GET THE FUCK OUT. His legacy will far surpass his one mistake. It's not okay that he remained silent about the Sandusky issue, and looking back, he and anyone else would have acted differently. RIP JoePa. You will be missed. Maybe not by everyone now, but a few years from now, this scandal will wash up. his one mistake, that lasted 10-15y, pretty big mistake. History will remember him as the criminal the he is, not what he did right. You're wrong. Maybe from the outside, people who never followed college football, yeah that's what they'll remember. But the people that matter, we'll remember the days of him on the sidelines. This is just like the Michael Jackson death. All of you people cried child rape...only a portion was talking about the contribution he made to music. Get your heads out of your asses and show some respect. "But the people that matter" You asshole Yeah, I'm the asshole. People in this thread are basically implying his death benefits the world, and I'm the asshole. You know what guys? This thread still exists: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=283558If you want to talk about PSU and the atrocities committed there, get in that thread. This thread is for JoePa.
Yes and "joepa" helped cover up said atrocities.
It's ridiculous to say we can't talk about his life here, otherwise we're just going to have 600 rip joepa posts and this thread will just be a conflagration of spam
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On January 23 2012 01:58 Dispersion wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:56 Omsomsoms wrote:
Regardless of the extent of his involvement, I'm absolutely disgusted by people who are willing to completely put aside the possibility he raped children because of his contributions to football. Nobody believes he touched any children, that was Sandusky. JoePa knew about it and didn't tell anyone, which obviously is a terrible, terrible thing.
If anyone should have done more it's Mike McQueary. He actually witnessed it. Why didn't he just call the fucking cops right then and there?
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On January 23 2012 01:57 Zad1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:30 Dispersion wrote:On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:
is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"? College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US. It's big deal. Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day. Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring. source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Bernabéu_StadiumCapacity - 85,454 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_StadiumCapacity - 109,901 Record attendance - 114k+ You all are talking about stadium sizes, you forget to factor in the people that watch it on TV as well. I bet the numbers swing to European football by a long shot.
Um...obviously. That's a continental, worldwide sport. El Clásico had 500,000,000 people watch it. But as far as stadium sizes, college football beats it. Thought that's what we were talking about >_<
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On January 23 2012 01:59 DrunkeN. wrote:RIP JoePa.... If you dont live in the States you should probably STFU since you don't know what this guy really did for Penn State and College Football as a whole. Most of you know only what happened the last few months which is sad
So what sorts of good things would one have to do to allow them to be immune from criticism over enabling and facilitating child rape? I have to be from America to understand? I dont see how being American is required to criticize someone who did what he did, regardless of what "good" he might have done in his life.
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On January 23 2012 01:24 Detrimentally wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:22 Steelavocado wrote:
So many bad posts in this thread already.
RIP joepa, you were a great man that had his rep. ruined by the Sandusky scandal. A great man that condoned and allowed child molestation to go on in his program. In fact, anyone who says he is anything short of an awful human being condones child molestation. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.
Completely agree, if he allowed child abuse to take place he was an awful human being and the world is a better place without people like him. Allowing child abuse is as bad as abusing the child yourself, how can you people call him a legend? You look up to people like this? You actually think what he did was acceptable and he should be known as a legend? He should go down as a child abuser and nothing more.
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On January 23 2012 01:11 Hawk wrote:
The whole thing is sick and shows just how much we as society value FOOBAW WINS over anything else.
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And that's America for you. As long as you're good at sports or have a lot of money you can rape women, host dog fights, and commit various other criminal acts that would have anyone else in jail for years. Yet still be treated and promoted as a roll model.
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On January 23 2012 01:57 Zad1337 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:30 Dispersion wrote:On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:
is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"? College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US. It's big deal. Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day. Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring. source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Bernabéu_StadiumCapacity - 85,454 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_StadiumCapacity - 109,901 Record attendance - 114k+ You all are talking about stadium sizes, you forget to factor in the people that watch it on TV as well. I bet the numbers swing to European football by a long shot.
Warkov's got it right.
"The Super Bowl is also among the most watched sporting events in the world, mostly due to North American audiences, and is second to Association football's UEFA Champions League final as the most watched annual sporting event worldwide."
Wikipedia, look up the Super Bowl. Legit sources, too.
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Sigh, coming from a family that has all gone to Penn State, this thread makes me really sad. Joe Pa made a huge error in judgement, and im not saying it shouldn't effect his legacy. Yet, through out his career he did so much more that he should also be remembered for, besides the scandal. He donated millions to a University, built a strong program based on moral character, and became the face of an entire university. Was he perfect? No, and he deserves criticism for the scandal and his role in it. He also deserves recognition and respect for the greatness he brought to the university. RIP JoePa
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As a rule of thumb everyone, you are not allowed to have a different opinion than everyone else. Watch out for that.
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On January 23 2012 02:01 Focuspants wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:59 DrunkeN. wrote:RIP JoePa.... If you dont live in the States you should probably STFU since you don't know what this guy really did for Penn State and College Football as a whole. Most of you know only what happened the last few months which is sad So what sorts of good things would one have to do to allow them to be immune from criticism over enabling and facilitating child rape? I have to be from America to understand? I dont see how being American is required to criticize someone who did what he did, regardless of what "good" he might have done in his life.
Your close enough to know College Football most PPL not from the States have no idea about Football at all. JoePa was a great coach. So a story we don't even have all the FACTS(and never will) for, is what everyone is basing his WHOLE life about.
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On January 23 2012 01:59 DrunkeN. wrote:RIP JoePa.... If you dont live in the States you should probably STFU since you don't know what this guy really did for Penn State and College Football as a whole. Most of you know only what happened the last few months which is sad
If I see another one of these "it was one mistake guyz remember what he did 4 FOOTBALL" posts I swear I'm going to scream
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On January 23 2012 02:02 Nuclease wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:57 Zad1337 wrote:On January 23 2012 01:30 Dispersion wrote:On January 23 2012 01:23 Nizaris wrote:On January 23 2012 01:21 don_kyuhote wrote:On January 23 2012 01:17 KalWarkov wrote:
is college football any popular besides colleges in the US? this confuses me somehow, why is something popular when its not "pro"? College football is the 2nd religion in some parts of US. It's big deal. Some college have over 100,000 people in the stadium during game day. Now thats more than what Real Madrid vs. Barcelona would bring. source? i know college football is big but bigger then Madrid vs Barcelona ? i have my doubts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santiago_Bernabéu_StadiumCapacity - 85,454 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_StadiumCapacity - 109,901 Record attendance - 114k+ You all are talking about stadium sizes, you forget to factor in the people that watch it on TV as well. I bet the numbers swing to European football by a long shot. Warkov's got it right. "The Super Bowl is also among the most watched sporting events in the world, mostly due to North American audiences, and is second to Association football's UEFA Champions League final as the most watched annual sporting event worldwide." Wikipedia, look up the Super Bowl. Legit sources, too.
That statistic has absolutely nothing to do with anything being talked about.
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On January 23 2012 01:47 sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 01:21 Nizaris wrote:On January 23 2012 01:19 Dispersion wrote:On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person. Get out. This man made Penn State what it is. RIP Penn State what it is: a college where it was OK to sexually abuse boys, if you were the coach. I can safely say that he won't be missed. You obviously don't understand college football. The people there will remember him and miss him every time they see his statue.
who gives a shit about football, boys were being raped.
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