there is a thread already for the sandusky situation. this shit should not be discussed in a person's death thread, and if you have something negative to say about it, then there is probably a much better place to do it than here. it's just disrespectful even if you disagree with JoePa

AcuWill

United States281 Posts

January 23 2012 15:58 GMT

#242

On January 23 2012 02:44 p4NDemik wrote:

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If so, he did something that almost every other college football coach in america does. His legacy was then bloated in retrospect but he was not a deplorable human being. He does not deserve the same treatment Sandusky deserves. He deserves more respect than that.

I can tell you for a fact from a top 5 college football program in the country with one of the most famous coaches in the last decade, with complete and total knowledge of the inner workings of the conduct office, this would NEVER have flown and has decidedly not occurred.

Edit: Also, I find it odd that people say that because Joe Paterno is dead, that we should have more respect for him. Does the same apply for other more vilified persons from history? Does their passing somehow undo wrongs they committed?

"Our character is what we do when we think no one is looking."Jackson Browne

Xinder

United States2269 Posts

January 23 2012 17:46 GMT

#243

I don't understand why so many people are bashing Joe Pa for one mistake he made and acting like that erases everything good he did in his 40+ years as the head football coach of Penn State. Did he make a mistake, hell yeah he did, it got him fired. Is that mistake enough to bash his entire life's work? I don't think so. RIP Joe Pa

s4life

Peru1519 Posts

January 23 2012 18:48 GMT

#244

On January 24 2012 00:57 FrankWalls wrote:
there is a thread already for the sandusky situation. this shit should not be discussed in a person's death thread, and if you have something negative to say about it, then there is probably a much better place to do it than here. it's just disrespectful even if you disagree with JoePa

We are not discussing the Sandusky situation, we are talking about the legacy of Paterno, which is fine to do here. There are people who talks about his football legacy and others who focus on his negatives. I don't see any problem with it.

Southlight

United States11761 Posts

January 24 2012 02:46 GMT

#245

Why I respect Paterno and find it a shame that it so happens that his gravest error came to light just as he would pass away.

http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/7492873/rick-reilly-paterno-true-legacy

DannyJ

United States5110 Posts

January 24 2012 04:46 GMT

#246

You can't just write off the 40+ years he had as an exceptionally generous and influential man to so many peoples lives, but you also can't just write off the horrific error he made later in life. Just goes to show nobody is perfect - not even close.

Jitsu

United States929 Posts

January 24 2012 04:52 GMT

#247

RIP JoePa. When I was playing HS Football in New Jersey, we actually took a two day training camp at the PSU summer camp. I met him during those two guys. He was such a presence and an awesome individual - a true legend. I am truely saddened by his passing. I know it says that he died of cancer on his Death Certificate, but I think, more than anything, Coach Paterno died of a broken heart.

Rest in Peace, Coach.

~Jitsu

TOloseGT

United States1145 Posts

January 24 2012 05:04 GMT

#248

It's sad that he died the way he did, especially considering how much stress he must have been under throughout the ordeal. I just hope he passed away peacefully.

However, I can not turn a blind eye to his "mistake". It's surprising how many fanboys blow this under the rug like no big deal. Like somehow, a lifetime of college football accomplishments overwrite his willful ignorance of the shit Sandusky did. Sorry, college football pales in comparison to child rape and molestation.

PHILtheTANK

United States1834 Posts

January 25 2012 00:03 GMT

#249

On January 24 2012 00:48 s4life wrote:

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What the @#$#@ is wrong with you? what kind of moral person allows a reportedly child rapist hang around with kids in the school gyms and showers under his watch for TEN freaking years?

Its pretty clear that you are a moron, and you only have a tenuous grasp on what happened here. Its amazing that you can say he allows a child rapist to hang around, when Mike McQueary witnessed the act in 2002, three years after Sandusky had already been retired, because Joe Paterno pushed him out the door. He didn't let him hang around, in fact after Joe Paterno reported him(even though he didn't know he had actually commited rape because McQueary didn't tell him that "out of respect for him") he was banned from the campus facilities and everything of that nature. Trying to insinuate that Joe Paterno enabled, or allowed him to do these things only proves that you are a complete fucking idiot. Maybe you should find out what was going on before posting on the internet and acting like Joe Paterno is some fucking deviant.

And to the people who continue to say "oh he told his superior, but he should have gone to the police, he clearly didn't do enough." Guess what... the 2nd superior he went to IS THE HEAD OF PENN STATE POLICE. STFU if you don't know what you're talking about.

iamahydralisk

United States813 Posts

January 25 2012 01:47 GMT

#250

lots of sad posts in this thread. I'm not defending Joe Pa's actions regarding the whole molestation thing, but it's really sad when in the minds of a lot of people, one mistake (granted, a big one) can erase a lifetime of good accomplishments. he fucked up, sure, but he also did a lot of good things that went beyond football. people need to stop acting like it's such a black and white issue. show some respect for a man who positively effected the lives of COUNTLESS people.