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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
January 23 2012 08:50 GMT
#221
On January 23 2012 05:50 s4life wrote:
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On January 23 2012 05:46 HazMat wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:21 Nizaris wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:19 Dispersion wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person.


Get out. This man made Penn State what it is. RIP

Penn State what it is: a college where it was OK to sexually abuse boys, if you were the coach. I can safely say that he won't be missed.

Yeah, kind of silly people are being banned for speaking out about this guy. College football must be a big deal to some mods.


Seriously, wtf is going on here?

nothing is going on. I was probably one of the most vocal against this coach but i didn't call ppl retards so i didn't get banned.
Hyuzak
Profile Joined August 2010
United States33 Posts
January 23 2012 09:09 GMT
#222
Can't believe so many people are getting banned for telling the truth. Mods need to stop being retards and allow people to continue to tell the truth about this guy. He may be dead, but that doesn't mean he all of the sudden is a great person now. Giving him a pass just because he's famous and coached a long time is disgusting.

User was temp banned for this post.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 09:15:03
January 23 2012 09:14 GMT
#223
On January 23 2012 18:09 Hyuzak wrote:
Can't believe so many people are getting banned for telling the truth. Mods need to stop being retards and allow people to continue to tell the truth about this guy. He may be dead, but that doesn't mean he all of the sudden is a great person now. Giving him a pass just because he's famous and coached a long time is disgusting.

they didn't give him a pass. only ppl that got banned are the ones that went over the line. You know what they say right ? don't like it ? GTFO

I'm sure calling mods retards will go over well, cya.
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
January 23 2012 09:16 GMT
#224
On January 23 2012 17:50 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:50 s4life wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:46 HazMat wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:21 Nizaris wrote:
On January 23 2012 01:19 Dispersion wrote:
On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote:
Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person.


Get out. This man made Penn State what it is. RIP

Penn State what it is: a college where it was OK to sexually abuse boys, if you were the coach. I can safely say that he won't be missed.

Yeah, kind of silly people are being banned for speaking out about this guy. College football must be a big deal to some mods.


Seriously, wtf is going on here?

nothing is going on. I was probably one of the most vocal against this coach but i didn't call ppl retards so i didn't get banned.

I think the question was more about how his defenders are getting away with it.
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
January 23 2012 09:34 GMT
#225
On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...

what is wrong you with guys!


You clearly don't know anything about Joe Paterno. First off on the issue of the scandal, he did everything he was supposed do. He contacted his superiors AND the head of the penn state police. Joe Paterno didn't even know the full extent of what was happening because "out of respect" for him Miike McQueary didn't tell him exactly what he saw, just told him some vague things, but Paterno still did everything he was legally and morally required to do there.

And outside of football Joe Paterno is a legend too. The hospital he died in, guess who paid for the damn thing? Do you have any idea how much money Joe donated not only to Penn State but to charities and hospitals and things of the sort? He kept barely any of his salary, and gave it all back to the school, the community, and to people who needed it. The man lived in a tiny tiny house while making millions of dollars because he thought his money was better of spent helping people.
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lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
January 23 2012 09:43 GMT
#226
People are very ignorant. The man made Penn State what it is. R.I.P a legend and a great man. He was a family friend so he will be missed dearly, and by all. Very sad he is gone
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fumikey
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada58 Posts
January 23 2012 09:53 GMT
#227
one of the most recognizable faces in football, will be remembered & respected.

it's a shame there are so many children who don't know what maturity or respect are.
karma, people.
Candide
Profile Joined November 2010
456 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 09:56:31
January 23 2012 09:56 GMT
#228
On January 23 2012 18:34 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...

what is wrong you with guys!


You clearly don't know anything about Joe Paterno. First off on the issue of the scandal, he did everything he was supposed do. He contacted his superiors AND the head of the penn state police. Joe Paterno didn't even know the full extent of what was happening because "out of respect" for him Miike McQueary didn't tell him exactly what he saw, just told him some vague things, but Paterno still did everything he was legally and morally required to do there.

And outside of football Joe Paterno is a legend too. The hospital he died in, guess who paid for the damn thing? Do you have any idea how much money Joe donated not only to Penn State but to charities and hospitals and things of the sort? He kept barely any of his salary, and gave it all back to the school, the community, and to people who needed it. The man lived in a tiny tiny house while making millions of dollars because he thought his money was better of spent helping people.



his legacy has been permanently scarred by sandusky. whatever he did prior to this is lost unfortunately. and it is painfully obvious that he did what was "legally" supposed to be done. the legitimate facts about what happened following the assistant coach letting paterno know, he let the school know. That is it. That was the only legal obligation he had and he fulfilled it but he didn't bring up any moral obligations. its unfortunate that he died and my condolences but pelase don't say that he morally did everything that he was supposed to do. It isn't true and there were a lot of people who suffered following this.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 10:16:25
January 23 2012 10:13 GMT
#229
On January 23 2012 18:43 lightrise wrote:
People are very ignorant. The man made Penn State what it is. R.I.P a legend and a great man. He was a family friend so he will be missed dearly, and by all. Very sad he is gone

You are very ignorant. He made Penn State what it is, a place where it was ok to sexual assault boys if you were an assistant coach. I can safely say he won't be missed.

Such disregard for the victims is disgusting. Would you have been so insensitive if you/your son got raped ? I doubt it.


On January 23 2012 18:53 fumikey wrote:
one of the most recognizable faces in football, will be remembered & respected.

it's a shame there are so many children who don't know what maturity or respect are.
karma, people.


It's a shame you value football over pedophilia. Ppl like you need to get their priorities straight. He will be remember as a criminal who willfully let little boys be raped.

BTW i'm 30. Karma, come get me bro.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
January 23 2012 10:14 GMT
#230
If I were Joe Pa I would have stopped Sandusky. If I were a billionaire I would donate all my money to poor people and make a difference in the world. If I were drafted to war I would be an honorable soldier and never commit any atrocities. Wow, I just realized I am such a great human being when I have the benefit of hindsight and hypothetical situations. Now I am going to pat myself on the back for being so awesome.

A lot of other people could have stopped Sandusky that also didn't. It seems that would not make Joe Pa the worst person ever, but just another average person that also didn't do enough. It also means his integrity didn't rise above everyone else's and allow him to do the right thing. Again, just average, and for that I don't feel the need to honor his passing, but I also don't feel the need to piss on his grave.
DR.Ham
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands621 Posts
January 23 2012 10:44 GMT
#231
On January 23 2012 03:57 Brosy wrote:
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On January 23 2012 03:55 kcaz wrote:
All I'm saying, is that if I knew someone was getting raped, I'd alert the higher ups (If I was in a school etc.) And call the police so that it ends, and that noone else experiences what the others did. And don't gimme this BS about your friends sister getting raped lalala bullshit. Everyone knows rape is serious, and I'm not trying to underplay it. But if he thought the situation was serious as it was, he would've done more ...


He did report the situation to his higher ups. And you are and ignorant little piece of shit. Go fuck off

User was warned for this post


Obviously he was not a child molestor, and as you say, he alerted his superiors. But surely the reasonable thing to have done would be perhaps the week after ask his superiors if they followed up on the whole child rape thing, and when they obviously haven't, the only non-culpable thing to do is go to the police.

I'm sorry he died, he obviously did many important things for his community, but this seems to have been a pretty fucking big omission on his part.

PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
January 23 2012 13:50 GMT
#232
Simply alerting his superiors was not enough. All he did was tell them, then wiped his hands clean of the situation without even taking a glance back at it. Extremely irresponsible and selfish behavior.

I feel terrible loss for the kids, not Paterno. Sorry, but my respect is earned, not granted.
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 23 2012 14:04 GMT
#233
This man was truly a legend, sad to see him go.
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
January 23 2012 14:10 GMT
#234
As per usual, I find most of the warnings/bans in this thread to be hilarious. But some people who question this topic as "news worthy" actually have a point. College football isn't very popular outside of the U.S. and the people posting these comments are from Poland, U.K., etc. We can assume they know about the Penn State controversy before Paterno's death, but that doesn't mean they can't question why a thread is being created about his death.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
January 23 2012 14:15 GMT
#235
I remember the first time I saw Coach Paterno in real life at the Big House in 05. It was surreal seeing a legend like that so close. Watched him ever since I came to the States and read about his history. Sad to see him go, truly a legend in his community.
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 23 2012 14:21 GMT
#236
the hating in this thread pisses me off to no end. the guy was extremely charitable and is a legendary head coach. he will be missed RIP
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
January 23 2012 14:23 GMT
#237
On January 23 2012 23:10 TheToaster wrote:
As per usual, I find most of the warnings/bans in this thread to be hilarious. But some people who question this topic as "news worthy" actually have a point. College football isn't very popular outside of the U.S. and the people posting these comments are from Poland, U.K., etc. We can assume they know about the Penn State controversy before Paterno's death, but that doesn't mean they can't question why a thread is being created about his death.

Given that the op is a truly respected member of the community should validate the reason why it warrants a thread. Other peoples deaths have warranted their own thread. Its just a shame that he had to pass away with this storm brewing around him. That and if you have something negative and hateful to say about him, the threads not about that, best left unspoken.
Xalorian
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada433 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-23 14:28:01
January 23 2012 14:25 GMT
#238
On January 23 2012 19:14 BlackJack wrote:
If I were Joe Pa I would have stopped Sandusky. If I were a billionaire I would donate all my money to poor people and make a difference in the world. If I were drafted to war I would be an honorable soldier and never commit any atrocities. Wow, I just realized I am such a great human being when I have the benefit of hindsight and hypothetical situations. Now I am going to pat myself on the back for being so awesome.

A lot of other people could have stopped Sandusky that also didn't. It seems that would not make Joe Pa the worst person ever, but just another average person that also didn't do enough. It also means his integrity didn't rise above everyone else's and allow him to do the right thing. Again, just average, and for that I don't feel the need to honor his passing, but I also don't feel the need to piss on his grave.


Exactly.

He did great things... but sadly, letting that go without alerting the police or going to the media, destroyed is reputation. And it was deserved. He valued the school reputation more than those kids. Yes, a lot of people could have stopped Sandusky and did not. I would have puted them in the same boat but I just don't know them...

He had the power to stop all this. To save so many kids... but he didn't. And for that, I feel no sympathy. Nothing he did worth all the life of all those boys that got molested... I seriously can't feel any sympathy.

But I can see why some people are honoring him.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
January 23 2012 14:48 GMT
#239
On January 23 2012 18:34 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...

what is wrong you with guys!


You clearly don't know anything about Joe Paterno. First off on the issue of the scandal, he did everything he was supposed do. He contacted his superiors AND the head of the penn state police. Joe Paterno didn't even know the full extent of what was happening because "out of respect" for him Miike McQueary didn't tell him exactly what he saw, just told him some vague things, but Paterno still did everything he was legally and morally required to do there.

And outside of football Joe Paterno is a legend too. The hospital he died in, guess who paid for the damn thing? Do you have any idea how much money Joe donated not only to Penn State but to charities and hospitals and things of the sort? He kept barely any of his salary, and gave it all back to the school, the community, and to people who needed it. The man lived in a tiny tiny house while making millions of dollars because he thought his money was better of spent helping people.


Actually yeah I do know a bit about joepa considering three of my cousins went to penn state and I visit them every year during thanksgiving to watch FoOtBaLl

And no, he did not do everything "morally" required, wtf is wrong with you. He even said so himself.

And guess what, at the end of the day someone who facilitates child rape is not a legend, no matter how many
Hospitals they built.
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s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
January 23 2012 15:48 GMT
#240
On January 23 2012 18:34 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...

what is wrong you with guys!


You clearly don't know anything about Joe Paterno. First off on the issue of the scandal, he did everything he was supposed do. He contacted his superiors AND the head of the penn state police. Joe Paterno didn't even know the full extent of what was happening because "out of respect" for him Miike McQueary didn't tell him exactly what he saw, just told him some vague things, but Paterno still did everything he was legally and morally required to do there .

And outside of football Joe Paterno is a legend too. The hospital he died in, guess who paid for the damn thing? Do you have any idea how much money Joe donated not only to Penn State but to charities and hospitals and things of the sort? He kept barely any of his salary, and gave it all back to the school, the community, and to people who needed it. The man lived in a tiny tiny house while making millions of dollars because he thought his money was better of spent helping people.


What the @#$#@ is wrong with you? what kind of moral person allows a reportedly child rapist hang around with kids in the school gyms and showers under his watch for TEN freaking years?
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