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On January 23 2012 03:01 JonnyLaw wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 02:50 BeanwhizzJax wrote:On January 23 2012 02:40 Witten wrote:Reading this thread was a painful experience. + Show Spoiler +
RIP Joe Paterno, my thoughts go out to his family.
I'm so sorry that reading this thread was painful. I'm sure the boys he witnessed getting molested aren't in any pain. On a serious note, why does everyone love football so much? I mean, everyone is so quick to say, "Joe Paterno was such a legend, he spent 48 years coaching a team." Jesus christ, this guy let children, CHILDREN, get molested. Do you guys love football so much you can't realize that child molestation is the most despicable, disgusting thing that could happen to someone? I bet for the record that half of you who are supporting this enabler didn't even care about PENN state. You know, just because it's football doesn't mean you have to like everything about it. If you really want to dish out condolences, give them to the children and children's families. This will be my last post in this thread. The uninformed responses and general hate is not worth reading. Joe Paterno did not molest children. Joe Paterno, heard second hand reports of molestation occurring. He reported it to his superiors as as expected in these situations. JoePa was in his mid 70s when these allegations occurred. He did not even coach on a sideline due to his weak physical health. He took appropriate action. Could Joe have done more? Of course. Did Joe fully understand the scope of what was occurring under his eyes? I doubt it. He's an old man who has not been physically sound for a number of years. I am completely uncertain of his mental capacity to understand the severity of the issue occcuring. IN SPITE OF THIS. Back off, the man is dead. Show some fucking respect for the dead. You will never know what Joe knew about child molestiation, you will never know his thoughts nor the reports he gave to his superiors. He was an old man then, and as a dead man he deserves respect.
Did you even read what I wrote? Be careful when accusing people of being misinformed.
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On January 23 2012 03:59 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 03:53 Adreme wrote:On January 23 2012 03:48 kcaz wrote:On January 23 2012 03:46 Brosy wrote:On January 23 2012 03:43 redFF wrote:
The tragedy is that he died before he could face justice for covering up and enabling the rape of children.
Good coach though. Justice? He did no legal wrong doing. He reported the incident to his superiors, morally you can certainly argue that he did wrong. I don't see how reporting what someone told you is "covering up." You are fucking retard I'm sure you'd be this defensive if you got raped by that Sundusky guy (IDK his name).... It's not ok to just "let people know" about something going on, especially when you can actually do something to stop it. When you dont completely understand what you were explained but you report the incident to people who should I struggle to see how thats not doing all he can. I do find it odd that he didnt understand what exactly child molestation is but I can accept that its a generational thing since it wasnt really reported on back in his generation. Oh come on. He didn't understand what exactly child molestation is? Really?
I had a great uncle who died last year at 85 who didnt know what the internet was or even what a computer did. Some people just dont focus on things that arent related to them. The interview he gave where he basically said "id never heard of something like that before so I had no idea how to respond to it" kind of shows that he just didnt comprehend what he was told which is compounded by the fact that the details were left out by the person who told him out of respect.
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People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys!
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On January 23 2012 04:15 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 03:59 redFF wrote:On January 23 2012 03:53 Adreme wrote:On January 23 2012 03:48 kcaz wrote:On January 23 2012 03:46 Brosy wrote:On January 23 2012 03:43 redFF wrote:
The tragedy is that he died before he could face justice for covering up and enabling the rape of children.
Good coach though. Justice? He did no legal wrong doing. He reported the incident to his superiors, morally you can certainly argue that he did wrong. I don't see how reporting what someone told you is "covering up." You are fucking retard I'm sure you'd be this defensive if you got raped by that Sundusky guy (IDK his name).... It's not ok to just "let people know" about something going on, especially when you can actually do something to stop it. When you dont completely understand what you were explained but you report the incident to people who should I struggle to see how thats not doing all he can. I do find it odd that he didnt understand what exactly child molestation is but I can accept that its a generational thing since it wasnt really reported on back in his generation. Oh come on. He didn't understand what exactly child molestation is? Really? I had a great uncle who died last year at 85 who didnt know what the internet was or even what a computer did. Some people just dont focus on things that arent related to them. The interview he gave where he basically said "id never heard of something like that before so I had no idea how to respond to it" kind of shows that he just didnt comprehend what he was told which is compounded by the fact that the details were left out by the person who told him out of respect.
Except he was 73 when he first heard about this stuff, not 85. And apparentely he was perfectly capable of performing his role in the football administration, so I don't see how he can't have acted accordingly with the scandal
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On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys!
Stop right there.
You can say he could have done more, I have no problem with that, but saying he simply LET IT HAPPEN is DISGUSTING.
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I hope Sandusky realizes he was the ultimate reason, not the proximate reason, why Joe Pa passed away. He destroyed a great coach, and a great schools reputation. May Joe Pa RIP, and may Sandusky burn in a fiery pit in hell.
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To quote a man of the greatest eloquence "The infernal storm, eternal in its rage, sweeps and drives the spirits with its blast: it whirls them, lashing them with punishment" RIP Joe Paterno
+ Show Spoiler +This is secular literature for those of you who don't know anything about poetry, or classical literature in general
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On January 23 2012 04:19 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys! Stop right there. You can say he could have done more, I have no problem with that, but saying he simply LET IT HAPPEN is DISGUSTING.
He heard about the scandal first in 1999, and was content with letting Sandusky occupy whatever roles he had in the administration all the way until the crest broke in 2011.
So yes, he let it continue to happen, whether he condoned it or not.
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On January 23 2012 04:21 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 04:19 PanN wrote:On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys! Stop right there. You can say he could have done more, I have no problem with that, but saying he simply LET IT HAPPEN is DISGUSTING. He heard about the scandal first in 1999, and was content with letting Sandusky occupy whatever roles he had in the administration all the way until the crest broke in 2011. So yes, he let it continue to happen, whether he condoned it or not.
So yeah, you're saying he could have done more, which I already stated I'm fine with. You're still wrong though. He didn't "let it happen". He reported it and should have done more, thats what you meant to say.
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On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys!
I suspect those people are the same people who made a riot and upsided newsvans after the scandal broke and he get fired. Atleast they seem to have the same mindset that as long as you're successfull at what you do, anything personal should be overlooked once you're dead.
Personally I think all dead people should be picked on, simply because there's so many people saying "oh come on, have some respect for the dead"
Sorry, but respect has to be earned, Joe didn't earn any from me so fuck him and his childraping friend. (once he dies)
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On January 23 2012 04:22 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 04:21 1Eris1 wrote:On January 23 2012 04:19 PanN wrote:On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys! Stop right there. You can say he could have done more, I have no problem with that, but saying he simply LET IT HAPPEN is DISGUSTING. He heard about the scandal first in 1999, and was content with letting Sandusky occupy whatever roles he had in the administration all the way until the crest broke in 2011. So yes, he let it continue to happen, whether he condoned it or not. So yeah, you're saying he could have done more, which I already stated I'm fine with. You're still wrong though. He didn't "let it happen". He reported it and should have done more, thats what you meant to say.
No it's not?
By not reporting it further, he let it continue to happen, perhaps indirectly, but he always knew that (assuming it was true) as long as Sandusky was involved in the program (hell as long as he was not locked up) there was a chance he could have been molesting more boys. (Which it looks like he did)
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On January 23 2012 04:27 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 04:22 PanN wrote:On January 23 2012 04:21 1Eris1 wrote:On January 23 2012 04:19 PanN wrote:On January 23 2012 04:16 1Eris1 wrote:
People calling this guy a hero/legend is mind boggling. No one can deny he was a great football coach, but when you start calling him a hero after what he let happen...
what is wrong you with guys! Stop right there. You can say he could have done more, I have no problem with that, but saying he simply LET IT HAPPEN is DISGUSTING. He heard about the scandal first in 1999, and was content with letting Sandusky occupy whatever roles he had in the administration all the way until the crest broke in 2011. So yes, he let it continue to happen, whether he condoned it or not. So yeah, you're saying he could have done more, which I already stated I'm fine with. You're still wrong though. He didn't "let it happen". He reported it and should have done more, thats what you meant to say. No it's not? By not reporting it, he let it continue to happen, perhaps indirectly, but he always knew that (assuming it was true) as long as Sandusky was involved in the program (hell as long as he was not locked up) there was a chance he could have been molesting more boys. (Which it looks like he did)
Key word, continue.
I'm simply arguing the fact that you said something wrong. You said that he "let it happen". Which is obviously wrong, as he reported it.
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RIP one of the best coaches ever
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People die everyday, Joe Paterno was just another person, get over it we'll all be joining him someday.
And yes, he was ethically and morally wrong when he failed to take action. The common sense alarm should've been blaring out of the fucking ears when he noticed even though he reported Sandusky for child abuse, HE WAS STILL WORKING AT PENNSTATE FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO FOLLOW.
He may have not committed anything legally wrong, but morally and ethically he was off.
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Needs pictures, very hard to recognize people by names for me.
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On January 23 2012 04:35 cydial wrote:
People die everyday, Joe Paterno was just another person, get over it we'll all be joining him someday.
And yes, he was ethically and morally wrong when he failed to take action. The common sense alarm should've been blaring out of the fucking ears when he noticed even though he reported Sandusky for child abuse, HE WAS STILL WORKING AT PENNSTATE FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO FOLLOW.
He may have not committed anything legally wrong, but morally and ethically he was off.
You don't just forget a legened of PSU football. Thats like forgetting MLK for black people (forgetting JoePa for PSU students)
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i couldn't believe they fired the guy in november when everyone knew he didnt have long to be around anyways. who knew it was this short. i thought it was a real slap in the face after a long career dedicated to the college.
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On January 23 2012 05:09 FryktSkyene wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 04:35 cydial wrote:
People die everyday, Joe Paterno was just another person, get over it we'll all be joining him someday.
And yes, he was ethically and morally wrong when he failed to take action. The common sense alarm should've been blaring out of the fucking ears when he noticed even though he reported Sandusky for child abuse, HE WAS STILL WORKING AT PENNSTATE FOR YEARS AND YEARS TO FOLLOW.
He may have not committed anything legally wrong, but morally and ethically he was off. You don't just forget a legened of PSU football. Thats like forgetting MLK for black people (forgetting JoePa for PSU students)
Your analogy wasn't really thought out was it?
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