EPTJoe Paterno dies - Page 8
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DaCheF
United States305 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:50 BeanwhizzJax wrote: I'm so sorry that reading this thread was painful. I'm sure the boys he witnessed getting molested aren't in any pain. On a serious note, why does everyone love football so much? I mean, everyone is so quick to say, "Joe Paterno was such a legend, he spent 48 years coaching a team." Jesus christ, this guy let children, CHILDREN, get molested. Do you guys love football so much you can't realize that child molestation is the most despicable, disgusting thing that could happen to someone? I bet for the record that half of you who are supporting this enabler didn't even care about PENN state. You know, just because it's football doesn't mean you have to like everything about it. If you really want to dish out condolences, give them to the children and children's families. This will be my last post in this thread. The uninformed responses and general hate is not worth reading. Joe Paterno did not molest children. Joe Paterno, heard second hand reports of molestation occurring. He reported it to his superiors as as expected in these situations. JoePa was in his mid 70s when these allegations occurred. He did not even coach on a sideline due to his weak physical health. He took appropriate action. Could Joe have done more? Of course. Did Joe fully understand the scope of what was occurring under his eyes? I doubt it. He's an old man who has not been physically sound for a number of years. I am completely uncertain of his mental capacity to understand the severity of the issue occcuring. IN SPITE OF THIS. Back off, the man is dead. Show some fucking respect for the dead. You will never know what Joe knew about child molestiation, you will never know his thoughts nor the reports he gave to his superiors. He was an old man then, and as a dead man he deserves respect. | ||
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Cubbieblue66
95 Posts
On January 23 2012 00:48 big_boat wrote: Extremely glad he's gone. Call him a legend all you want, but he was a horrible person. User was temp banned for this post. He wasn't a horrible person. Neither was he a perfect person. He was -- as most of us are -- a person who did both good and bad things. At the end of the day, you just hope the good you've done outweighs the bad. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:16 l00l wrote: last time i checked, none of the victims were murdered and easily could've told people about said abuse but none of them did, does this make them guilty of causing harm to others? You sound like a fool trying to blame the victims here.. reading a couple of minutes about the incident would have been enough for you to know the culture of silence surrounding sandusky's actions. | ||
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Slurpy
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rip joepa | ||
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Brosy
United States254 Posts
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Kurr
Canada2338 Posts
I can only hope that you will never have a child that is molested, only to have people involved be defended because of their standing in society. This man does not deserve a RIP thread. No one would ever defend this guy if he wasn't a popular figure before incidents came to light. He is partly responsible for the abuse. He may not have been directly involved, but 10 years without action is unacceptable. You can say he didn't know what to do because it was his friend involved; that "dilemma" should not take years for him to be done with. Maybe a couple of days, but anyone with a good conscience would have taken action. No one would defend a child molester. No one would defend said molester's wife or friend if they knew about it and took no action. | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:01 JonnyLaw wrote: This will be my last post in this thread. The uninformed responses and general hate is not worth reading. Joe Paterno did not molest children. Joe Paterno, heard second hand reports of molestation occurring. He reported it to his superiors as as expected in these situations. JoePa was in his mid 70s when these allegations occurred. He did not even coach on a sideline due to his weak physical health. He took appropriate action. Could Joe have done more? Of course. Did Joe fully understand the scope of what was occurring under his eyes? I doubt it. He's an old man who has not been physically sound for a number of years. I am completely uncertain of his mental capacity to understand the severity of the issue occcuring. IN SPITE OF THIS. Back off, the man is dead. Show some fucking respect for the dead. You will never know what Joe knew about child molestiation, you will never know his thoughts nor the reports he gave to his superiors. He was an old man then, and as a dead man he deserves respect. Paterno also saw Sandusky getting in and out of the school's gyms and showers with kids for 10 freaking years... knowing what he did know and doing nothing then is a complete moral fail. It is just fair for him to be remembered as a pedofile enabler, because he simply was one along with many others at that school. | ||
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Sadist
United States7326 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:37 s4life wrote: Paterno also saw Sandusky getting in and out of the school's gyms and showers with kids for 10 freaking years... knowing what he did know and doing nothing then is a complete moral fail. It is just fair for him to be remembered as a pedofile enabler, because he simply was one along with many others at that school. to the best of our knowledge........ no he didn't. Stop lying. im sure he saw him around campus with children and knew he still had access to the facilities. but to say he himself saw sandusky and children getting out of showers together is an outright lie at this time. Think before you post. | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
Good coach though. | ||
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Nyct0
United Kingdom33 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:44 p4NDemik wrote: If so, he did something that almost every other college football coach in america does. His legacy was then bloated in retrospect but he was not a deplorable human being. He does not deserve the same treatment Sandusky deserves. He deserves more respect than that. He allowed children to be abused, he deserves NO respect. | ||
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stormssc
Poland125 Posts
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:58 Dispersion wrote: Nobody believes he touched any children, that was Sandusky. JoePa knew about it and didn't tell anyone, which obviously is a terrible, terrible thing. No his critisism is that he told someone and didnt follow up. That is entirely different then not telling anyone and considering he has said that he didnt really consider himself qualified to speak on or handle such an issue I can forgive him and put my blame on people he told who did nothing. | ||
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kcaz
Canada387 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:35 don_kyuhote wrote: Just to give a perspective. Madrid and Barcelona are professional clubs and they have stadiums size of 85,000 and 99,000ish seats. There are 9 US colleges with 80,000+, 5 colleges with 90,000+, and 6 colleges with stadiums of 100,000+ and they do regularly fill out in important games. Yeah and I bet people travel from all over the world to watch college football. Lol. Its big where it is, because there isn't much else. But OT, RIP Joe Pa (Never heard of him before the case) - but he deserves nothing after enabling what happened to those people. Tarnished the School which he apparently gave everything for. Just cuz' he was a football coach doesn't make him ethically superior. | ||
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Brosy
United States254 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:43 redFF wrote: The tragedy is that he died before he could face justice for covering up and enabling the rape of children. Good coach though. Justice? He did no legal wrong doing. He reported the incident to his superiors, morally you can certainly argue that he did wrong. I don't see how reporting what someone told you is "covering up." You are fucking retard User was warned for this post | ||
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kcaz
Canada387 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:46 Brosy wrote: Justice? He did no legal wrong doing. He reported the incident to his superiors, morally you can certainly argue that he did wrong. I don't see how reporting what someone told you is "covering up." You are fucking retard I'm sure you'd be this defensive if you got raped by that Sundusky guy (IDK his name).... It's not ok to just "let people know" about something going on, especially when you can actually do something to stop it. | ||
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PanN
United States2828 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:48 kcaz wrote: I'm sure you'd be this defensive if you got raped by that Sundusky guy (IDK his name).... It's not ok to just "let people know" about something going on, especially when you can actually do something to stop it. According to kcaz, "letting people know" is the same exact thing as telling your superiors like you're supposed to. | ||
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bobobobojos
United States59 Posts
Most likely, most of the abuses occurred off-campus, and Sandusky would've been caught years earlier, as a result of parents who basically sold their kids as sex slaves for the fee of sending their kid to sex slavery camp. But they were troubled youths with likely little to no parental involvement and thus were even more "at risk" just google "at risk" and sandusky and u'll understand. So in my opinion theres a chance Paterno may not have known. And think about it, nobody 'knew' it was going on. Since the media makes it very clear that he did mention it to his superiors, the responsibility was on them to further act. It just makes Paterno amoral so why anyone woudl defend him in this thread is beyond me. edit: Since we have no info we can't make that judgement. As far as i can see its like 50-50 that he's an innocent or an asshole but he's 100% not guilty of a crime in all fairness. THE REAL QUESTION REMAINS Since when does dying earn you more respect unless you die under fire or in battle or what have you? Why would i respect a dead hero more than a living hero? We dont piss on people's graves and we don't piss on people. But we can talk shit about people we dont like, and so i think we can talk shit about dead people we dont like E.G.- Calling Dead Poets morons gets philosophers angry, but is completely understood by engineers. | ||
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wunsun
Canada622 Posts
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