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Omsomsoms
Croatia194 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:05 Nizaris wrote: who gives a shit about football, boys were being raped. I agree completely, the people taking the moral highground and defending him are... really something | ||
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Insomniac22
United States907 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:02 Nuclease wrote: Warkov's got it right. "The Super Bowl is also among the most watched sporting events in the world, mostly due to North American audiences, and is second to Association football's UEFA Champions League final as the most watched annual sporting event worldwide." Wikipedia, look up the Super Bowl. Legit sources, too. So college footbal isn't bigger then european football. thx now the facts are straight. | ||
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Dispersion
Korea (South)504 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:02 Nyct0 wrote: Completely agree, if he allowed child abuse to take place he was an awful human being and the world is a better place without people like him. Allowing child abuse is as bad as abusing the child yourself, how can you people call him a legend? You look up to people like this? You actually think what he did was acceptable and he should be known as a legend? He should go down as a child abuser and nothing more. What in the hell is wrong with you people? I don't personally want to be like him, but I respect him for how he advanced the sport of college football. Nobody thinks what he did was acceptable, but calling him an awful human being and implying he should only go down as a man who allows molestation to go on, is ignorant. Respect the legacy of the sport, Sandusky will meet justice. The victims will see justice. Leave JoePa alone, at least in this thread. Post in the PSU/Sandusky thread if you need to talk about it. On January 23 2012 02:02 Luxuria wrote: And that's America for you. As long as you're good at sports or have a lot of money you can rape women, host dog fights, and commit various other criminal acts that would have anyone else in jail for years. Yet still be treated and promoted as a roll model. ..that's not even true. Country bashing isn't smiled upon on TL, be careful. And also, nobody is saying "Hey, Vick held dogfights and I like him, maybe I should do that!" Get your head out of your ass. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:06 Omsomsoms wrote: I agree completely, the people taking the moral highground and defending him are... really something I wonder if they would be saying the same thing, if it was them who got raped for years. | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
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FryktSkyene
United States1327 Posts
RIP Joe | ||
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Omsomsoms
Croatia194 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:09 Nizaris wrote: I wonder if they would be saying the same thing, if it was them who got raped for years. Yeah I wonder what they're thinking -_- | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
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Dispersion
Korea (South)504 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:09 Nizaris wrote: I wonder if they would be saying the same thing, if it was them who got raped for years. Do people not understand that Paterno didn't rape anyone? If this were an RIP Sandusky thread, I'd agree in saying that he will be remembered as a child molester. But Paterno...won't be. | ||
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
Many of you would say that "Oh my god, if I were in his shoes, I would have definitely followed up on the report of Sandusky!" But you aren't. None of you are...and it is foolish for anyone to claim that or make an argument off that claim. Paterno and Sandusky were extremely close friends. If you found out your friend did something terrible, the first thing on your mind would be to deny it. I'm not defending Paterno, but merely asking that anyone here who is going to talk shit about him do a little research beforehand. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:02 Kiyo. wrote: Was probably one of the top 5 most famous college football coaches ever. He coached the same team for 46 years and was consistently near the top. Thank you for this post, I had no idea who this person was until reply #16 and was wondering why his death was news-worthy. OP should have explained this. | ||
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Focuspants
Canada780 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:07 Dispersion wrote: What in the hell is wrong with you people? I don't personally want to be like him, but I respect him for how he advanced the sport of college football. Nobody thinks what he did was acceptable, but calling him an awful human being and implying he should only go down as a man who allows molestation to go on, is ignorant. Respect the legacy of the sport, Sandusky will meet justice. The victims will see justice. Leave JoePa alone, at least in this thread. Post in the PSU/Sandusky thread if you need to talk about it. ..that's not even true. Country bashing isn't smiled upon on TL, be careful. And also, nobody is saying "Hey, Vick held dogfights and I like him, maybe I should do that!" Get your head out of your ass. Respect the legacy of the sport! He did so much to advance football! Dont just judge him on his mistake of standing idley by while children get raped! One of these things is not like the other. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:11 Dispersion wrote: Do people not understand that Paterno didn't rape anyone? If this were an RIP Sandusky thread, I'd agree in saying that he will be remembered as a child molester. But Paterno...won't be. I know perfectly well he didn't rape anyone. But he knew it was going on since 1999. he could have stopped it but he chose to cover it up because the coach was his friend. To me he is just as disgusting as the rapist himself. | ||
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Sadist
United States7170 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:11 StyLeD wrote: In my ethics class it was suggested that he had become so involved in college football that it was his life. Now, he had two VERY difficult choices. He could follow up on the report - therefore establishing that his college football program and mentors were hypocrisies - or simply assume that his superiors were working on it. Many of you would say that "Oh my god, if I were in his shoes, I would have definitely followed up on the report of Sandusky!" But you aren't. None of you are...and it is foolish for anyone to claim that or make an argument off that claim. Paterno and Sandusky were extremely close friends. If you found out your friend did something terrible, the first thing on your mind would be to deny it. I'm not defending Paterno, but merely asking that anyone here who is going to talk shit about him do a little research beforehand. not following up was bad enough.... but to allow the man to still be on campus is really his biggest crime. If it was Joe Pa's desire, he wouldnt have still had his office on campus etc... there were numerous things that went wrong here. The whole situation was an absolute trainwreck. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:09 RA wrote: This is bad. RIP. People pass judgement without knowing everything, easiest way to do it. Thing is as much as he might have been wrong in his decisions, so do people passing judgement, I shudder at the thought of doing that, I hope I didn't. Dude we know enough. We know the guy knew about supposed child molestation (that we know to be true) gave a measly attempt to bring it to light and then just say there and let Sandusky stay on campus and do his thing. Hell he freaking spoke at a children's program on sanduskys behalf after accusations had been brought against him! | ||
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don_kyuhote
3006 Posts
On January 23 2012 02:07 Nizaris wrote: So college footbal isn't bigger then european football. thx now the facts are straight. nobody said college football is bigger than european football. Only things that were said was college football is a big deal in US and that there are college football games that bring more people to the stadium than el clasico would. of course it could be because there are bigger college football stadiums than camp nou and santiago bernabeu, but the fact that there are that big of an stadiums for college sport should give you an idea. | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
Donated Millions of dollars to an educational institution. People on TL like education, right? Was a positive force in thousands of college kid's lives. These former players attest to this. Coached young, impulsive kids for 46 years in such a way that he maintained no NCAA infractions. Not to mention what he has contributed to football. Yes, he did make mistakes dealing with Sandusky. But if you look at it, the man found it hard to believe that his friend of 30 or so years who he knows so well could do something like this. That's understandable. And even after it was more clear to him, he was still put in a shitty position by someone else's actions. | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
Good on the man for doing so much for football and the university. Bad on the man for his indecisiveness. He's dead now, and the guy that commited the actual rapes is still alive. Can we move on? | ||
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Drteeth
Great Britain415 Posts
On January 23 2012 01:16 TemujinGK wrote: You have to be pretty sick to trash a man right after he dies. Please respect the dead. He evidently made horrible mistakes in his life for which he probably should have received much more punishment, but the man just died. Have some damn respect for a human's death. would you have that RESPECT for the Lockerbie bomber? Or maybe Liam Brady, perhaps Peter Sutcliffe .... you'd say "thank fuck or 'glad that monster is dead', you know you would. That's a mighty high horse you're sat on. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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