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United States4770 Posts
A rather bizarre case is developing surrounding former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky and Penn State University. Sandusky is accused of the rape of up to 8 young boys. Two administrator for the school have also been indicted by grand jury for covering up the crimes.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/paterno-charity-learned-of-sandusky-allegations-years-ago.html
For those of you who don't follow college football. Jerry Sandusky was once the heir apparent to Joe Paternos job as head coach of the PSU football team. Paterno is a god at PSU having built the program up from nothing. Paterno and the PSU football team have also prided itself on having always run a clean program. So this makes everything coming out twice as crazy.
From the looks of things it appears that PSU learned about these rapes as far back as 1998, and did nothing to stop it. Worst yet they continued to let this man host camps for children at the school, and attend practices/bowl games with kids in his company.
Things start to get really nuts when you connect the dots to now declared dead former district attorney Ray Gricar. Gricar was investigating Sandusky as far back as 1998. Now for unknown reason Gricar dropped that case against Sandusky, but there is speculation he was protecting the University as well. In 2005 he goes missing with his car and laptop later found destroyed. Covering up what exactly? Who knows.
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2545027/-jerry-sandusky-ray-gricar-prosecutor-1998-penn-state-missing
This whole case has a very Hot Fuzz "For the greater good" feel to it for anyone who seen that movie. Two questions really stand out to me about the details of this case. One is when these people found him raping kids. Why the hell did they keep bring it to their bosses first? If you find someone raping a small child. Don't you go right to the police? In what world do you stop and say to yourself. "I better let my boss know about this!" Second what did Joe Paterno know and when did he know it?
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Yea saw the news this morning. Shoulda done more reaseach before I went to Penn State, now im stuck here
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Jibba brought this up yesterday and I loathe imagining what this thread will look like by page 20. Needless to say, if proved 100% true then the coverup was disgusting and everyone that perjured themselves and hid the actions of a pedophile should be jailed.
edit screw PSU bobby bowden 4 lyfe
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Much worse than I thought. I glanced over the headline on fox news.. "Oh sex abuse what else is new.." But rape of 8 boys and people knew about it and let it go on without reporting the very first one? Humanity never ceases to amaze me.
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I want the movie rights when it's all said and done.
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Football is more important than anything. As long as the grand machine of college football is benefited, who cares about some children? /sad truth 
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Woah...This makes the other legend's (Bobby Bowden) cheating scandal at FSU look almost angelic.
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On November 08 2011 07:40 Jacko11 wrote:
Yea saw the news this morning. Shoulda done more reaseach before I went to Penn State, now im stuck here
This isn't something you could 'research' and unless you're a football player it's probably irrelevant to you anyway
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This is just crazy. Stuff like these coverup scandals seem much more common these days. Are people getting worse at covering stuff up/ people are better at finding it or is it actually becoming more common.
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United States13896 Posts
I read about this story earlier today. What he's accused of doing, using charities to sexually molest boys, using his role on the team to entice the boys and then abuse them, its sickening. Then university officials trying to cover it up after coaches alerted them and he subsequently stepped down from his coaching position at the same time.
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On November 08 2011 07:39 InToTheWannaB wrote:A rather bizarre case is developing surrounding former Penn State defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky and Penn State University. Sandusky is accused of the rape of up to 8 young boys. Two administrator for the school have also been indicted by grand jury for covering up the crimes. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/nationnow/2011/11/paterno-charity-learned-of-sandusky-allegations-years-ago.htmlFor those of you who don't follow college football. Jerry Sandusky was once the heir apparent to Joe Paternos job as head coach of the PSU football team. Paterno is a god at PSU having built the program up from nothing. Paterno and the PSU football team have also prided itself on having always run a clean program. So this makes everything coming out twice as crazy. From the looks of things it appears that PSU learned about these rapes as far back as 1998, and did nothing to stop it. Worst yet they continued to let this man host camps for children at the school, and attend practices/bowl games with kids in his company. Things start to get really nuts when you connect the dots to now declared dead former district attorney Ray Gricar. Gricar was investigating Sandusky as far back as 1998. Now for unknown reason Gricar dropped that case against Sandusky, but there is speculation he was protecting the University as well. In 2005 he goes missing with his car and laptop later found destroyed. Covering up what exactly? Who knows. http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/11/7/2545027/-jerry-sandusky-ray-gricar-prosecutor-1998-penn-state-missingThis hole case has a very Hot Fuzz "For the greater good" feel to it for anyone who seen that movie. Two questions really stand out to me about the details of this case. One is when these people found him raping kids. Why the hell did they keep bring it to their bosses first? If you find someone raping a small child. Don't you go right to the police? In what world do you stop and say to yourself. "I better let my boss know about this!" Second what did Joe Paterno know and when did he know it?
According to the Grand Jury report Joe Paterno was informed the next day a Saturday I believe and he informed his boss on Sunday. The grand jury found that Joe Paterno was told exactly what happened and told his boss exactly what happened. Joe Paterno is not facing any legal repercussions for his actions, but his inaction in following it up(making sure the police were involved) or trying to find out the identity of the child is very sad.
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Here's the Grand Jury report: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdf
It's extremely disturbing on many levels, but people should read it to see how much neglect actually happened (it's an almost unbelievable amount).
It also stretches my credulity to believe that Paterno was as in the dark about it as he claims knowing how influential he is in Penn State politics. Especially if Sandusky's retirement was related to this, which really seems likely given the timing (the next year after he was investigated by police in 1998) and the testimony of the one victim (#4 in the report). But as a beloved defining community icon there is a lot of interest in preserving his image.
The whole thing was a huge shock to me as a former student there (I was just back for a football game not a month ago). The community is basically in shock about both what happened and the inaction/possible cover-up by major school figures. Especially cause this isn't some stupid recruiting/illegal benefits violation like these other school scandals.
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On November 08 2011 12:17 ZapRoffo wrote:Here's the Grand Jury report: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploadedFiles/Press/Sandusky-Grand-Jury-Presentment.pdfIt's extremely disturbing on many levels, but people should read it to see how much neglect actually happened (it's an almost unbelievable amount). It also stretches my credulity to believe that Paterno was as in the dark about it as he claims knowing how influential he is in Penn State politics. Especially if Sandusky's retirement was related to this, which really seems likely given the timing (the next year after he was investigated by police in 1998) and the testimony of the one victim (#4 in the report). But as a beloved defining community icon there is a lot of interest in preserving his image. The whole thing was a huge shock to me as a former student there (I was just back for a football game not a month ago). The community is basically in shock about both what happened and the inaction/possible cover-up by major school figures. Especially cause this isn't some stupid recruiting/illegal benefits violation like these other school scandals.
Yikes, just finished reading that. That guy is a sick fuck.
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Disgusting, Paterno should be fired. The University should be hit with heavy sanctions. All of them should be in jail, if the kid in florida gets life for possession of child porn, then these people should be put away for life as well.
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Paterno fired.
I really thought they'd let him finish the season, considering he'd been there for 61 years... :/
Either way, his time was short. Absolutely horrible.
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they are going to clean house at PSU, Joe Paterno's legacy gona be tarnished.
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United States22883 Posts
On November 08 2011 07:52 p4NDemik wrote:
I read about this story earlier today. What he's accused of doing, using charities to sexually molest boys, using his role on the team to entice the boys and then abuse them, its sickening. Then university officials trying to cover it up after coaches alerted them and he subsequently stepped down from his coaching position at the same time.
Paterno (the head coach) tried to resign at the end of the season, but the Board of Trustees just fired him an hour ago.
It's worth noting for non-Americans that college football is HUGE in the US, bigger than some professional sports, and Coach Paterno was literally one of the most powerful people at the school. More powerful than most of the administrators and arguably second in power to the president of the school. The Board tried to make him quit 5 years ago and he basically told them no.
And Penn State is one of the oldest and largest schools in the country. I think it has a bigger alumni pool than anywhere else in the country.
And it's not just Paterno at fault. The President of the school was fired, and likely most of the football staff will be gone too. There were several people who knew about it and they all covered it up. Sandusky was even caught twice, first in 1998 and again in 2002.
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A lot of my friends go to Penn State, as I live in New Jersey.
The media is more obsessed with JoePa than Sandusky x.x It's a pity, really.
A lot of people are going apeshit over the whole thing.
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I really feel for Joe Paterno, he was put in a difficult situation and made a mistake. And now he's lost his job and hurt his legacy because of it. However, he should have certainly said something. It sucks so much that people like sandusky fuck it up for everyone.
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