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On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?
I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.
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On November 02 2011 18:44 karpo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? He was using your post as a example of what he considers a stupid opinion. I agree with him and most experts and research seem to agree too.
id like to hear about these experts and this research go on enlighten me
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On November 02 2011 18:26 RoyalCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:16 Maenander wrote:On November 02 2011 18:06 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 18:03 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:53 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 17:46 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. But it is not necessary. In my opinion, you don't ever need to hit your children if you are doing it right Maybe, but 'doing it right' is probably very hard or nearly impossible. You can't reason with small kids. And sometimes, a slap on the ass will put them in shape. Of course i'm not talking about beating your kid with a belt for 7 minutes (or w/e was happening for the 7 minutes in the video, i havent watched the whole thing). But it worked on me just fine. I have some experience with raising kids and i finally understand that the "I'ts gonna hurt me more then it's gonna hurt you" is really really true. But sometimes you gotta man up and do the right thing for the greater good. I grew up in a country where it is illegal to lay hand on your children. No doubt it still happens in some families, but none of my friends or relatives has had it happen to them (as far as I know of course). Sure, some slaps may not be harmful but I don't believe them necessary either. That is why I think zero tolerance is a good thing. How do you punish your kids when they misbehave, then? 'Grounding' them in their room so they can play starcraft whole day?  Do you know the power of words? All the children in my pretty large family are/were pretty well-behaved and grew up to be good people, violence was never necessary. Good for you, then. Obviously, if kids behave well then there is no need for violence...which i way too strong of a world to call what i'm talking about. Try to reason with 5 to maybe even 10 year old kids, though. From my experience, it sometimes doesn't work. And i love my kids too much to let them grow like trees in wood (czech saying  . But maybe some day you will understand what i mean. Or maybe you won't. Either one is fine as long as you do whatever is necessary to make sure you kids grow up good peopel. Be it occasional slaps or grounding or just being lucky and having your kids pickup on your good example.
There are other ways to deal with troubling kids than to beat them... It's the easy and cowardly way of doing it.
By your logic, maybe you were just "lucky" your beating worked.
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Im all for a spanking and disciplining your child.... but that guy went nuts. He was out of control, you don't lose your shit and start dropping F-bombs on your kids either. He deserves to be in trouble with the law, that was disgusting.
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Denmark8045 Posts
On November 02 2011 18:47 mskaa wrote:
Whats most shocking to me is that corporal punishment is allowed in the US and apparently some parts of Europe as well o.O
Man i really think this belongs in the 1960ies..
was allowed in denmark until 1997
among the people opposing the ban of corporal punishment in 1997 were venstre and dansk folkeparti
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On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.
and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?
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What a disgusting asshole. Watching that video, all I could think was "kill that fucking man". Not that I would support such a thing (nor would I support the death penalty in general, that's a whole different debate) but jesus christ, what kind of a broken human being do you have to be to actually do that to your own daughter?
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Denmark8045 Posts
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?
did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.
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On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?
If something like that happens regurlarly during a kids life, you don't think it has a mental effect? Get real...
And she obviously suffered from it enough to hold a grudge for these years.
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On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?
Because of the absolutely disgusting sense of insecurity you have when someone stronger than you and having authority on you is letting go all his rage and anger on you?
Where is the border? When you have this kind of abusing behavior from your father and your mother isn't even reacting or trying to protect you, how can you grow up and have a sense of security?
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On November 02 2011 18:49 nihlon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:26 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 18:16 Maenander wrote:On November 02 2011 18:06 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 18:03 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:53 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 17:46 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. But it is not necessary. In my opinion, you don't ever need to hit your children if you are doing it right Maybe, but 'doing it right' is probably very hard or nearly impossible. You can't reason with small kids. And sometimes, a slap on the ass will put them in shape. Of course i'm not talking about beating your kid with a belt for 7 minutes (or w/e was happening for the 7 minutes in the video, i havent watched the whole thing). But it worked on me just fine. I have some experience with raising kids and i finally understand that the "I'ts gonna hurt me more then it's gonna hurt you" is really really true. But sometimes you gotta man up and do the right thing for the greater good. I grew up in a country where it is illegal to lay hand on your children. No doubt it still happens in some families, but none of my friends or relatives has had it happen to them (as far as I know of course). Sure, some slaps may not be harmful but I don't believe them necessary either. That is why I think zero tolerance is a good thing. How do you punish your kids when they misbehave, then? 'Grounding' them in their room so they can play starcraft whole day? Do you know the power of words? All the children in my pretty large family are/were pretty well-behaved and grew up to be good people, violence was never necessary. Good for you, then. Obviously, if kids behave well then there is no need for violence...which i way too strong of a world to call what i'm talking about. Try to reason with 5 to maybe even 10 year old kids, though. From my experience, it sometimes doesn't work. And i love my kids too much to let them grow like trees in wood (czech saying . But maybe some day you will understand what i mean. Or maybe you won't. Either one is fine as long as you do whatever is necessary to make sure you kids grow up good peopel. Be it occasional slaps or grounding or just being lucky and having your kids pickup on your good example. There are other ways to deal with troubling kids than to beat them... It's the easy and cowardly way of doing it. By your logic, maybe you were just "lucky" your beating worked.
I was ... just like was pretty much everyone born between 1950 or whatever. You know, kids have been even beaten in schools on daily bases for mistakes. I'm not saying that's ok, but it got humans quite far, don't you think? I'm not saying we are where we are because kids were beaten at school, but it certainly didn't hinder them.
Anyway, im out. Not like we reach any kind of conclusion here.
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On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.
imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.
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On November 02 2011 18:50 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:47 mskaa wrote:
Whats most shocking to me is that corporal punishment is allowed in the US and apparently some parts of Europe as well o.O
Man i really think this belongs in the 1960ies.. was allowed in denmark until 1997 among the people opposing the ban of corporal punishment in 1997 were venstre and dansk folkeparti
I would like to thank my parents for taking the high road then :D
I cant believe this, ive been living in a tiny spank free bubble it seems
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Intresting video. I like that this girl had the balls to record it in secret and use it against her father when the time was right. The fact she recorded this behind his back raises a few questions though. First off, if that even legal? Secondly, does that even matter? Thirdly, could this be considered inadmisable because its on youtube?
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On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.
Either you're a troll or you have no clue.
I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.
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Why did this thread degraded to 20 years olds telling how to raise a kid? The guy in the video clearly went way, way too far and I'm interested in people's opinion who have kids, but let's leave the parenting advices to those, who have experience in this field.
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On November 02 2011 18:54 RoyalCheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:49 nihlon wrote:On November 02 2011 18:26 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 18:16 Maenander wrote:On November 02 2011 18:06 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 18:03 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:53 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 17:46 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. But it is not necessary. In my opinion, you don't ever need to hit your children if you are doing it right Maybe, but 'doing it right' is probably very hard or nearly impossible. You can't reason with small kids. And sometimes, a slap on the ass will put them in shape. Of course i'm not talking about beating your kid with a belt for 7 minutes (or w/e was happening for the 7 minutes in the video, i havent watched the whole thing). But it worked on me just fine. I have some experience with raising kids and i finally understand that the "I'ts gonna hurt me more then it's gonna hurt you" is really really true. But sometimes you gotta man up and do the right thing for the greater good. I grew up in a country where it is illegal to lay hand on your children. No doubt it still happens in some families, but none of my friends or relatives has had it happen to them (as far as I know of course). Sure, some slaps may not be harmful but I don't believe them necessary either. That is why I think zero tolerance is a good thing. How do you punish your kids when they misbehave, then? 'Grounding' them in their room so they can play starcraft whole day? Do you know the power of words? All the children in my pretty large family are/were pretty well-behaved and grew up to be good people, violence was never necessary. Good for you, then. Obviously, if kids behave well then there is no need for violence...which i way too strong of a world to call what i'm talking about. Try to reason with 5 to maybe even 10 year old kids, though. From my experience, it sometimes doesn't work. And i love my kids too much to let them grow like trees in wood (czech saying . But maybe some day you will understand what i mean. Or maybe you won't. Either one is fine as long as you do whatever is necessary to make sure you kids grow up good peopel. Be it occasional slaps or grounding or just being lucky and having your kids pickup on your good example. There are other ways to deal with troubling kids than to beat them... It's the easy and cowardly way of doing it. By your logic, maybe you were just "lucky" your beating worked. I was ... just like was pretty much everyone born between 1950 or whatever. You know, kids have been even beaten in schools on daily bases for mistakes. I'm not saying that's ok, but it got humans quite far, don't you think? I'm not saying we are where we are because kids were beaten at school, but it certainly didn't hinder them. Anyway, im out. Not like we reach any kind of conclusion here.
I'm not sure on the history of beating children either but you saying that "it certainly didn't hinder them" is a bold statement that you have no facts to back up.
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Denmark8045 Posts
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.
what do you mean she could have had help when she was 16? do you know how insecure 16 year old girls are? her father is a judge, and the law approves of what he's doing right there. what do you mean she could have had help when she was 16? you think she waited 7 years ... to watch internet forums briefly discuss her case? is this the "profit" you're talking about? if you think that then you're pretty stupid.
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On November 02 2011 10:37 Kimaker wrote:
While I don't agree with the reason, I see nothing wrong there with the immediate punishment. Yes (having now read the full context of her condition) that was too much. But corporal punishment overall isn't bad.
For me it was the continuation of the conversation that got me riled up. Corporal punishment is fine, I myself was raised with corporal punishment as a possibility, but the fact that he didn't let it go was a bit much for me. Honestly, everyone's going to freak out and say she should be removed from the house, but I think that's ridiculous. She got belted. Woo hoo. Getting belted hurts like a son of a bitch, but it's nothing seriously harmful.
And please don't pull the "mentally scarring" card out. It's not. I promise you.
By the sounds of it you are saying it is completely reasonable and acceptable because it happened to you? Ive had a shitfest of a life with my parents doing multiple things to me and it doesnt make it fucking right.
That was fucking disgusting, i dont usually say "if i met this guy.." shit, but i seriously would tear him a new one, what an asshole. i cant fucking believe it.
The severity of it was insane, i counted 20+ whips to her, for fucking what? "Spanking" a child is one thing, i believe a good few slaps on the ass to be reasonable punishment, this is WHIPPING not fucking spanking, it was brutal, way too hard for a child and he is one fucked up individual.
To continually tell the mother to give him the whip and then LEAVE TO GET ANOTHER ONE. Getting in the childs face and threatening her "If you ever fucking look at me the wrong way or take the wrong tone". Getting her to sleep on the couch? wtf?
This man is a judge? He judges peoples wrongdoings, but can justifiy that to himself? Wonder what the fuck he considers "wrong"
IMO punishing a child physically is acceptable to a limit but that was fucking past that limit in a big way, he seemed to take enjoyment from frightening the shit out of her and beating her, she got the point after the first few whips. 20 later he's still going strong. and using a belt is fucking disgusting too, slap the ass. Its more then enough.
EDIT: On a side note ive seen discussion of beating being downright wrong, i recieved beatings as a child, but it was a fucking ticklefest compared to that, and that is what i deem acceptable, a few slaps to the ass, harsh words and then further consequence.
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On November 02 2011 18:58 valaki wrote:
Why did this thread degraded to 20 years olds telling how to raise a kid? The guy in the video clearly went way, way too far and I'm interested in people's opinion who have kids, but let's leave the parenting advices to those, who have experience in this field.
I kind of agree with you, but I think I'm entitled to say that yelling sexually connoted sentences at your daughter while spanking her histerically is not good parenting, regardless of my total lack of experience in it.
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