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On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok.
and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.
he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.
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I've luckily never been beaten as a kid and I think it's a counterproductive thing to beat your children. Horrible video. Also being violent on that man is the same as beating that kid. Violence is a terrible thing :/.
Also I've never heard of any person who was raised without being treated this way and came out a bad person. It's just a horrible and unneccesary thing.
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On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.
Belts are ez-pz, have any of you ever been hit by a rattan cane? Shit stings.
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On November 02 2011 18:20 chev223 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. Belts are ez-pz, have any of you ever been hit by a rattan cane? Shit stings.
lol that's what im saying. its actually not as bad as it looks.
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Son of a bitch. I saw many things on the internet. But this made me literally cry. He is lucky that he doesnt live near to me. I would beat the shit out of this asshole.
She is a girl ffs...
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On November 02 2011 15:46 WardenSC wrote:
Of course from an outsider looking in, it seems like her parents are abusive in the first glance. However, in this case, I am more sickened by the fact that the girl would have the audacity to videotape the whole scene and cop out on her parents like that. It just feels like she's "acting out" knowing the shitstorm its going to cause for her parents.
This kind of punishment is nothing new in most asian cultures, including in Korea. Having been raised with a somewhat strick parents myself, I had been beaten like this and at the time I also thought it was bullshit and all that. But when you grow up, you realize it was really them trying to guide you in the right way, whatever means possible. What kind of parents would enjoy on hitting their child? Before pointing fingers on her parents, you guys should think about how she's resorting to releasing this on the web because they wouldn't let her play "video games".
It's these types of posts in this thread that irritate me the most. I mean, cognitive dissonance, much?
EITHER what we saw in this video is just normal parenting and then obviously making a video about it is no big deal and we can all sit together having a chuckle watching a regular dad doing what a regular dad's gotta do
OR this video is a display of abysmal parenting at best and child abuse at worst, then obviously making this video public is an act of revenge to retaliate for the girl's suffering.
But you can hardly have it both ways. I understand the whole invasion of privacy issue that secretly videotaping causes, but if the father really felt so ashamed of seeing himself in this situation, he should have considered that more carefully before the act.
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Violence should only ever be used as an absolute last resort. Clearly this wasn't the case in this situation because he could've solved it by taking the computer away, or installing passwords for his internet.
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On November 02 2011 18:16 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:06 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 18:03 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:53 RoyalCheese wrote:On November 02 2011 17:46 Arevall wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. But it is not necessary. In my opinion, you don't ever need to hit your children if you are doing it right Maybe, but 'doing it right' is probably very hard or nearly impossible. You can't reason with small kids. And sometimes, a slap on the ass will put them in shape. Of course i'm not talking about beating your kid with a belt for 7 minutes (or w/e was happening for the 7 minutes in the video, i havent watched the whole thing). But it worked on me just fine. I have some experience with raising kids and i finally understand that the "I'ts gonna hurt me more then it's gonna hurt you" is really really true. But sometimes you gotta man up and do the right thing for the greater good. I grew up in a country where it is illegal to lay hand on your children. No doubt it still happens in some families, but none of my friends or relatives has had it happen to them (as far as I know of course). Sure, some slaps may not be harmful but I don't believe them necessary either. That is why I think zero tolerance is a good thing. How do you punish your kids when they misbehave, then? 'Grounding' them in their room so they can play starcraft whole day?  Do you know the power of words? All the children in my pretty large family are/were pretty well-behaved and grew up to be good people, violence was never necessary.
Good for you, then. Obviously, if kids behave well then there is no need for violence...which i way too strong of a world to call what i'm talking about. Try to reason with 5 to maybe even 10 year old kids, though. From my experience, it sometimes doesn't work. And i love my kids too much to let them grow like trees in wood (czech saying  . But maybe some day you will understand what i mean. Or maybe you won't. Either one is fine as long as you do whatever is necessary to make sure you kids grow up good peopel. Be it occasional slaps or grounding or just being lucky and having your kids pickup on your good example.
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This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.
This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :
On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.
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I cant belive how the parrents can do something like this without beeing afraid the kids will slit there parrants throats while they sleep.
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On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.
hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?
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Anyone who beats a developing mind is an asshole.
There is no proven fact that children/teenagers need violence as a disciplinary action to teach them the borders and limits of an adult life. Only a shitty parent resolves to violence.
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On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.
Listen to it. People have more than a body.
Just listen to what he is shouting at her. He sounds like he wanted to do more to her than "just" beat her(it sounds wrong writing this, but compared to other stuff he could've done it's reasonable to say. Beating is wrong in it's own way, though)., and I imagine that this scared her to death.
This guy is a sick bastard.
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On November 02 2011 18:36 Krehlmar wrote:
Anyone who beats a developing mind is an asshole.
There is no proven fact that children/teenagers need violence as a disciplinary action to teach them the borders and limits of an adult life. Only a shitty parent resolves to violence.
Too right. I've actually seen studies that show that violence in parenting tends to make children more violent when they grow up as well.
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On November 02 2011 18:38 KeksX wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. Listen to it. People have more than a body. Just listen to what he is shouting at her. He sounds like he wanted to do more to her than "just" beat her(it sounds wrong writing this, but compared to other stuff he could've done it's reasonable to say. Beating is wrong in it's own way, though)., and I imagine that this scared her to death. This guy is a sick bastard.
im going to guess that you're indicating sexual tones in his speech to her? how so? i mean her mom was right there it would be so awkward if that were true. and saying he wanted her to bend over on the bed is only sexual if u make it sexual. seems to me like he just wanted to spank her with the belt and get it over with. how else was he supposed to tell her to do that? go expose your posterior on your bunk so i can discipline you - i mean why not just say bend over on the bed?
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Is this guy actually being charged for this? I do hope that he loses his job and ends up with a good amount of jail-time. This is disgusting behavior.
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On November 02 2011 18:41 Rannasha wrote:
Is this guy actually being charged for this? I do hope that he loses his job and ends up with a good amount of jail-time. This is disgusting behavior.
it's legal in texas there's not going to be any legal repercussions
but apparently parts of the internet are displeased ZOMG
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On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far. Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy. On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:On November 02 2011 17:30 AnatheKing wrote:
Hitting them just shows you are incapable as a parent. and as a human being... This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok. and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light. he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?
He was using your post as a example of what he considers a stupid opinion. I agree with him and most experts and research seem to agree too.
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On November 02 2011 18:43 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:41 Rannasha wrote:
Is this guy actually being charged for this? I do hope that he loses his job and ends up with a good amount of jail-time. This is disgusting behavior. it's legal in texas there's not going to be any legal repercussions
Charming place then ^^
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Whats most shocking to me is that corporal punishment is allowed in the US and apparently some parts of Europe as well o.O
Man i really think this belongs in the 1960ies..
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