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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
November 02 2011 10:01 GMT
#641
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far.


Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy.

On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:
[quote]

and as a human being...


This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok.


and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.

he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.



hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


It's just hateful bullshit trying to discredit her due to the fact that he's trying to defend beating someone with a belt, and it's hard to do that with proper arguments so attacking the person instead of the act is the name of the game.
ProLagger
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines30 Posts
November 02 2011 10:01 GMT
#642
There has to be a reason why the father is doing this. The kid is not always right, I mean. I am not saying that she is wrong about this but, the parents should say their own side too. Maybe they want what's best for the child. I don't know. Probably I am going neutral on this one.
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PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
November 02 2011 10:02 GMT
#643
If I ever see this guy in public, I will beat the fuck out of him with a bat, and possibly kill him. What a piece of FUCKING SHIT!
We learn nothing from history except that we learn nothing from history.
pandaBee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 10:03:45
November 02 2011 10:02 GMT
#644
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:37 RoyalCheese wrote:
I have nothing against using beating as a technique to rise your children to be good people when necessary, but this goes way too far.


Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy.

On November 02 2011 17:33 Keitzer wrote:
[quote]

and as a human being...


This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok.


and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.

he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.



hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives.

any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man

what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke.

i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event.

Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
November 02 2011 10:03 GMT
#645
On November 02 2011 19:01 ProLagger wrote:
There has to be a reason why the father is doing this. The kid is not always right, I mean. I am not saying that she is wrong about this but, the parents should say their own side too. Maybe they want what's best for the child. I don't know. Probably I am going neutral on this one.

WTF?

What on earth could justify this behavior? I mean, really? She's a TEENAGE GIRL ! The father is a full-grown adult !
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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 02 2011 10:05 GMT
#646
Corporal punishment is a grossly inappropriate way to discipline your child. It has nothing to do with teaching and everything to do with training and hurting.

Let's put an end to this Victorian era bullshit. Jail the Judge.
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karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
November 02 2011 10:05 GMT
#647
On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:
[quote]

Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy.

[quote]

This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok.


and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.

he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.



hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives.

any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man

what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke.

i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event.



You can't be for real?

You've talked to girls that needed therapy and that grew up warped and you still thing that it's a acceptable thing? "Betraying" your parents is somehow worse than parents causing kinds mental harm that requires therapy?
Horo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States351 Posts
November 02 2011 10:05 GMT
#648
It isn't really about how to raise a kid... I mean, we mostly have our formed opinions by now about how it's going to get done, and to be honest we'll likely pull from our own experiences as a kid with our parents.

While I do think that this man went a little far with the language, and the message he's trying to get across...

But, I do think many people are getting on too much of a high horse here. She was downloading things off the internet using Kazaa, very likely illegal things. He might be ignorant but, if he rules that he doesn't want her doing that in the house... then she shouldn't have done it.

This is also 2004, so back then the internet is a privilege, and to be honest I still think it's a privilege. It's his house, his rules... to be honest, she shouldn't have broken them, and deserved some punishment. Like I said, he goes a little too far and is a little too rageful but, to be honest telling her to get on her knees and on her belly is a good way to protect her face and the rest of her body, so that he can simply spank her, which won't cause real harm.
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
November 02 2011 10:05 GMT
#649
On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:
[quote]

Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy.

[quote]

This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok.


and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.

he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.



hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives.

any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man

what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke.


Betraying the parents?

So let's say your parents sexually abused you when you are a kid and you don't have the guts to report it to the police right away because you're too scared, you should just move on and not say anything?

You are a troll, and I sincerely hope your twisted opinion won't carry on to the way you will raise your kids.
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kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
November 02 2011 10:06 GMT
#650
well.. she obviously saw the belt coming. the guy probably belted his daughter because some aspect of her healthy life was suffering because of internet games (grades maybe? lol). i see nothing wrong with the method of punishment either. it doesnt look pretty and it may not look like it, but he's doing it out of love
AnatheKing
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway54 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 10:10:29
November 02 2011 10:07 GMT
#651
On November 02 2011 18:48 pandaBee wrote:
id like to hear about these experts and this research go on enlighten me


http://healthland.time.com/2011/06/28/would-you-record-yourself-spanking-your-kids/ : "Moms and dads who spank do so because they believe it's effective, and research actually shows that it is — in the short-term. A child reaching for a tempting object will stop if he gets swatted. "It does work in the immediate moment, but beyond that, in most cases, it's very ineffective," says Holden. "The most common long-term consequence is that children learn to use aggression.""

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090915100941.htm : "Spanking 1-year-olds leads to more aggressive behaviors and less sophisticated cognitive development in the next two years."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090924231749.htm : "Children who are spanked have lower IQs worldwide, including in the United States"

http://www.religioustolerance.org/spankin5.htm : "The researchers found that the children which were spanked the most as 3 to 5 year olds exhibited higher levels of anti-social behavior when observed 2 and 4 years later. This included higher levels of hitting siblings, hitting other children in school, defying parents, and ignoring parental rules."

http://www.naturalchild.org/jan_hunt/tenreasons.html

http://www.askdrsears.com/topics/discipline-behavior/spanking/10-reasons-not-hit-your-child

http://kidshealth.org/parent/positive/talk/discipline.html

Google it. The research is endless. In this thread you are completely talking out of your ass pandaBee.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
November 02 2011 10:08 GMT
#652
On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 17:59 Excludos wrote:
[quote]

Theres a difference between light spanking to show them they've done wrong, to hitting them with a belt over and over and over again while the kid is crying her eyes out and begging for mercy.

[quote]

This is /thread as far as I'm concerned. Baffles me how anyone can deem hitting your kid ok.


and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.

he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.



hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives.

any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man

what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke.

i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event.



You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE.

Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it.

Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread.
Useless wet fish.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
November 02 2011 10:08 GMT
#653
Is there any update on this? Is the judge losing his job and getting prosecuted?
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Horo
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States351 Posts
November 02 2011 10:08 GMT
#654
She is not in the age range of most of those articles you posted...
Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
November 02 2011 10:08 GMT
#655
On November 02 2011 19:06 kazie wrote:
well.. she obviously saw the belt coming. the guy probably belted his daughter because some aspect of her healthy life was suffering because of internet games (grades maybe? lol). i see nothing wrong with the method of punishment either. it doesnt look pretty and it may not look like it, but he's doing it out of love

I think I'll just stop reading this thread.

Do you really think a family in which the wife is so dominated by her husband that she can't voice her opinion and where the father is beating his girl while yelling things I won't even say while fucking a prostitute is doing anything for the love and well-being of their kids?

God I'm just too upset.

I'll stop there.

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pandaBee
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States251 Posts
November 02 2011 10:09 GMT
#656
On November 02 2011 19:05 karpo wrote:
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On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
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and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.

he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine.



hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives.

any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man

what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke.

i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event.



You can't be for real?

You've talked to girls that needed therapy and that grew up warped and you still thing that it's a acceptable thing? "Betraying" your parents is somehow worse than parents causing kinds mental harm that requires therapy?



just because u take therapy does not mean that u have mental trauma. and i will tell u right now that these girls suffered FAR WORSE abuse - ACTUAL ABUSE - than what was seen in that video. some of them took therapy, most of them did not. a few of them grew up a little warped , most of them normal, and the warped ones and normal ones all grew up fine when they became independent. and yes even though their parents had abused them they forgave them and moved on with their lives.

in the case in the video the "abuse" is completely disciplinary in nature so there's no problem for u or anyone else to be raging about abuse and whatnot when thats clearly not the issue here.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 02 2011 10:09 GMT
#657
On November 02 2011 19:08 PolSC2 wrote:
Is there any update on this? Is the judge losing his job and getting prosecuted?

In Texas? LOL

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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 02 2011 10:09 GMT
#658
On November 02 2011 18:58 valaki wrote:
Why did this thread degraded to 20 years olds telling how to raise a kid? The guy in the video clearly went way, way too far and I'm interested in people's opinion who have kids, but let's leave the parenting advices to those, who have experience in this field.

Not really much parenting advice to be sought after in this thread. I think the majority of parents that do browse this site would tell you that what happened in that video is incredibly wrong.

The thread status got downgraded with people continuing to come in here and venting their anger with "if I lived close to this guy I would....". People just need to learn to be pro active with their feelings, instead of typing a meaningless threat on this forum why not take a few seconds and contact CNN. If you really are bothered by what you saw, take a moment to calmly bring attention to the situation.
PolSC2
Profile Joined December 2010
United States634 Posts
November 02 2011 10:10 GMT
#659
On November 02 2011 19:06 kazie wrote:
well.. she obviously saw the belt coming. the guy probably belted his daughter because some aspect of her healthy life was suffering because of internet games (grades maybe? lol). i see nothing wrong with the method of punishment either. it doesnt look pretty and it may not look like it, but he's doing it out of love


You are a disgusting piece of shit. I mean seriously, "doing it out of love"????

I hope you don't have kids. Asshole.
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Ahelvin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
France1866 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 10:12:14
November 02 2011 10:11 GMT
#660
On November 02 2011 19:09 pandaBee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 19:05 karpo wrote:
On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.

This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :


[quote]


hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid?


I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.


and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma?


did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy.


imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit.

Either you're a troll or you have no clue.

I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life.


i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives.

any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man

what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke.

i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event.



You can't be for real?

You've talked to girls that needed therapy and that grew up warped and you still thing that it's a acceptable thing? "Betraying" your parents is somehow worse than parents causing kinds mental harm that requires therapy?



just because u take therapy does not mean that u have mental trauma. and i will tell u right now that these girls suffered FAR WORSE abuse - ACTUAL ABUSE - than what was seen in that video. some of them took therapy, most of them did not. a few of them grew up a little warped , most of them normal, and the warped ones and normal ones all grew up fine when they became independent. and yes even though their parents had abused them they forgave them and moved on with their lives.

in the case in the video the "abuse" is completely disciplinary in nature so there's no problem for u or anyone else to be raging about abuse and whatnot when thats clearly not the issue here.

God. Please god.

Humiliating someone is discipline?

Human beings are not dogs.

Duh. It's so hard not to use ad hominem arguments against people like you I will stop there.
On November 02 2011 19:10 PolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 19:06 kazie wrote:
well.. she obviously saw the belt coming. the guy probably belted his daughter because some aspect of her healthy life was suffering because of internet games (grades maybe? lol). i see nothing wrong with the method of punishment either. it doesnt look pretty and it may not look like it, but he's doing it out of love


You are a disgusting piece of shit. I mean seriously, "doing it out of love"????

I hope you don't have kids. Asshole.

See? People are losing their temper quicker than me.
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