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On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is. This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying : On November 02 2011 18:17 pandaBee wrote:
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and where do u draw the line? as far as im concerned that was quite light.
he smacked her with a belt like what 15-16 times over the course of a minute? i mean yeah it hurt but it wasn't severe. didn't leave her limping with scars all over her body. she got up at the end of the video and wasn't crying or nothing. she stood up just fine. hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread.
im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this.
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On November 02 2011 19:09 Irave wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 18:58 valaki wrote:
Why did this thread degraded to 20 years olds telling how to raise a kid? The guy in the video clearly went way, way too far and I'm interested in people's opinion who have kids, but let's leave the parenting advices to those, who have experience in this field. Not really much parenting advice to be sought after in this thread. I think the majority of parents that do browse this site would tell you that what happened in that video is incredibly wrong. The thread status got downgraded with people continuing to come in here and venting their anger with "if I lived close to this guy I would....". People just need to learn to be pro active with their feelings, instead of typing a meaningless threat on this forum why not take a few seconds and contact CNN. If you really are bothered by what you saw, take a moment to calmly bring attention to the situation.
I have a two year old daughter, and this literally makes me feel sick to my stomach. 
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There's one in a hundred times when corporal punishment is remotely appropriate and even then there is always a better way. If you're trying to make half ass excuses for this please oh god please, explain why.
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On November 02 2011 19:11 Ahelvin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:09 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:05 karpo wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You can't be for real? You've talked to girls that needed therapy and that grew up warped and you still thing that it's a acceptable thing? "Betraying" your parents is somehow worse than parents causing kinds mental harm that requires therapy? just because u take therapy does not mean that u have mental trauma. and i will tell u right now that these girls suffered FAR WORSE abuse - ACTUAL ABUSE - than what was seen in that video. some of them took therapy, most of them did not. a few of them grew up a little warped , most of them normal, and the warped ones and normal ones all grew up fine when they became independent. and yes even though their parents had abused them they forgave them and moved on with their lives. in the case in the video the "abuse" is completely disciplinary in nature so there's no problem for u or anyone else to be raging about abuse and whatnot when thats clearly not the issue here. God. Please god. Humiliating someone is discipline? Human beings are not dogs. Duh. It's so hard not to use ad hominem arguments against people like you I will stop there. Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:10 PolSC2 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:06 kazie wrote:
well.. she obviously saw the belt coming. the guy probably belted his daughter because some aspect of her healthy life was suffering because of internet games (grades maybe? lol). i see nothing wrong with the method of punishment either. it doesnt look pretty and it may not look like it, but he's doing it out of love You are a disgusting piece of shit. I mean seriously, "doing it out of love"???? I hope you don't have kids. Asshole. See? People are losing their temper quicker than me.
how is any of what was in the video humiliating to the girl other than the fact that she revealed it for everyone to see?
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On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.
This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this.
Honestly?
Look at the video again. Now come back and tell me the father isn't enjoying what he is doing. Tell me he isn't enjoying slapping his daughter with a belt. Come back and tell this to me.
It's obvious he is enjoying it, and this is what draw the line between discipline and abuse. I could swear he had a hard-on while doing this.
On November 02 2011 19:13 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:11 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 19:09 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:05 karpo wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
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I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.
and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You can't be for real? You've talked to girls that needed therapy and that grew up warped and you still thing that it's a acceptable thing? "Betraying" your parents is somehow worse than parents causing kinds mental harm that requires therapy? just because u take therapy does not mean that u have mental trauma. and i will tell u right now that these girls suffered FAR WORSE abuse - ACTUAL ABUSE - than what was seen in that video. some of them took therapy, most of them did not. a few of them grew up a little warped , most of them normal, and the warped ones and normal ones all grew up fine when they became independent. and yes even though their parents had abused them they forgave them and moved on with their lives. in the case in the video the "abuse" is completely disciplinary in nature so there's no problem for u or anyone else to be raging about abuse and whatnot when thats clearly not the issue here. God. Please god. Humiliating someone is discipline? Human beings are not dogs. Duh. It's so hard not to use ad hominem arguments against people like you I will stop there. On November 02 2011 19:10 PolSC2 wrote:On November 02 2011 19:06 kazie wrote:
well.. she obviously saw the belt coming. the guy probably belted his daughter because some aspect of her healthy life was suffering because of internet games (grades maybe? lol). i see nothing wrong with the method of punishment either. it doesnt look pretty and it may not look like it, but he's doing it out of love You are a disgusting piece of shit. I mean seriously, "doing it out of love"???? I hope you don't have kids. Asshole. See? People are losing their temper quicker than me. how is any of what was in the video humiliating to the girl other than the fact that she revealed it for everyone to see?
Ok... A 16-year old girl is sexually mature, and likely to know about sex, thus able to understand inappropriate sexual behavior. Do you really think asking a 16-year old to "get on her knees" while you spank her with a belt is not humiliating in any way? That she won't make the connection between a sexual act and what the father is doing? This is humilation.
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How outrageously stupid are people posting in this thread? If you ever for a second, after watching the ENTIRE VIDEO, dared to place blame on the child, you should probably seek psychiatric counselling because clearly you are not mentally stable. Absolutely fucking pathetic trolls.
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Yes, how dare she reveal the abuse she was subject to. She's obviously a masochist. Edit: making this more direct:
THANKS pandaBee NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL HER FAULT!
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On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.
This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this.
You are fucking condoning it, you are defending his actions.
I work with kids day in day out and i see the effects of what this bullshit does. So dont fuck me around and say i have no actual "view" on the situation.
I have already explained all my views on physical punishment and how far over the line this shit is, a whip is a weapon, being used on a child.
You are scum, worse then shit and you are probably this way because you suffered the same or worse then this girl did, much like the others sound who defend his actions in this thread.
I cant fucking believe humanity right now, sick twisted fuck.
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On November 02 2011 19:13 Ahelvin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this. Honestly? Look at the video again. Now come back and tell me the father isn't enjoying what he is doing. Tell me he isn't enjoying slapping his daughter with a belt. Come back and tell this to me. It's obvious he is enjoying it, and this is what draw the line between discipline and abuse. I could swear he had a hard-on while doing this.
enjoying? how laughable. he sounds angry and upset. ive never heard of someone that enjoys being pissed off. unless that comes from personal experience? if that's the case i think you have your definitions wrong.
was he maniacally laughing in joy while spanking his own daughter and hearing her cry? do u really think something like that happened? i think YOU have to watch the video again friend.
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On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:30 FaRess wrote:
This is terrible and people trying to make some sense out of this are even worse, you clearly see that this douche-bag is beating her as hard as he can, thank god he looks like he doesn't know what sport is.
This is why I've come to love reddit more than TL, with the vote system I don't have to see the stupid opinion of people saying :
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this.
It doesn't matter what she's done in the past, no one deserves to be beaten like that. I"m sorry you were beaten when you were a child, because it has obviously softened you up to this kind of violence. I hope for your children's sake you don't beat your own kids thinking it's alright because your parents did it you.
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On November 02 2011 19:14 Probe1 wrote:
Yes, how dare she reveal the abuse she was subject to. She's obviously a masochist. Edit: making this more direct:
THANKS pandaBee NOW I UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL HER FAULT!
God thank you people. I was starting to lose faith in humanity.
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On November 02 2011 19:17 Zidane wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this. It doesn't matter what she's done in the past, no one deserves to be beaten like that. I"m sorry you were beaten when you were a child, because it has obviously softened you up to this kind of violence. I hope for your children's sake you don't beat your own kids thinking it's alright because your parents did it you.
ignorant people, ignorant conclusions.
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pandaBee, I have no idea how you've lasted on TL this long. Go get hit by a truck.
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On November 02 2011 19:19 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:17 Zidane wrote:On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
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I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.
and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this. It doesn't matter what she's done in the past, no one deserves to be beaten like that. I"m sorry you were beaten when you were a child, because it has obviously softened you up to this kind of violence. I hope for your children's sake you don't beat your own kids thinking it's alright because your parents did it you. ignorant people, ignorant conclusions.
... Using one-liner when they have nothing more to say. Furthermore, you blantantly ignored everything I said, should I come to the conclusion you know I'm right?
Farewell sir, and I really hope I won't reincarnate into one of your kid.
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On November 02 2011 19:19 pandaBee wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:17 Zidane wrote:On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:
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I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat.
and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this. It doesn't matter what she's done in the past, no one deserves to be beaten like that. I"m sorry you were beaten when you were a child, because it has obviously softened you up to this kind of violence. I hope for your children's sake you don't beat your own kids thinking it's alright because your parents did it you. ignorant people, ignorant conclusions.
Did I strike a nerve?
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This is disgusting, how can they live with themselfs. One of the worst thing ive seen somebody to to a child.
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pandaBee; "I have nothing against beating children to raise them when necessary" you're damaged beyond repair. I feel sorry for you.
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On November 02 2011 19:16 Capped wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 19:11 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 19:08 Capped wrote:On November 02 2011 19:02 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:57 Ahelvin wrote:On November 02 2011 18:55 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:53 prplhz wrote:On November 02 2011 18:50 pandaBee wrote:On November 02 2011 18:47 FaRess wrote:On November 02 2011 18:34 pandaBee wrote:
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hey my opinion is as valid as any others. just because u don't like it doesn't disprove what i'm trying to say at all. i can understand that u are emotionally invested into this thread but do u have to throw away all your reason and a ttack me and calling me stupid? I didn't call you stupid, only what you're saying in your post sound stupid to me, just stating "it wasn't severe", shows how poorly informed your opinion is, the most scaring thing is that you're only worrying about the physical punishment itself which is, in this kind of situation not important compared to the mental health of the person getting beat. and how would the stern lecturing / 50 seconds of booty spanking cause her mental trauma? did you watch the video? she's clearly in a very stressful situation and apparently she hasn't dropped it for 7 years. this has scarred her for life and i doubt she's just acting up because she's a drama queen. i imagine she genuinely did not like having a grown man slap her repeatedly with a belt while she was screaming for mercy. imo she is just a drama queen why in the world did she not report this earlier she had hard evidence so she could have help she was 16 then if she was afraid for her life she could have waited 2 years and then done it but no she waited for 7. Why seven? probably to use her parents and then drop this F-bomb when she's secure and comfortable so she can watch u all argue for her while cracking open the popcorn. Profit. Either you're a troll or you have no clue. I really wish you could talk someday with a girl that has been physically abused (YES, this is physical abuse when your father is screaming GET ON YOUR KNEES while spanking you with a belt) so she could tell you how this kind of thing can impair your ability to live an happy life. i have talked with many girls in that situation yeah but unlike this one they've all moved on to become good adults Without betraying her parents in this fashion. some of them went through therapy some of them didn't. some of them grew up a little warped some of them didn't. but in the end they're living fine lives. any form of physical discipline is obviously done by someone stronger otherwise they wouldnt be carry it out. so for anyone that keeps saying "oh yeah he's bigger and stronger so this is wrong!" well when my mom beat my ass when i was four or five she was also bigger and stronger what do u have to say about that? i can generailze this for anyones mom it doesn't necessarily have to be a man what uhave a problem with is the actual spanking not the fact that the guy is stronger. obviously he's stronger that doesn't realy add anything to your point since if this was done by someone younger and smaller and weaker it wouldnt be discipline it would be a joke. i'm not trying to pin all the blame on the girl or anything. but i don't like how everyone is bashing on the father either. neither of these is the right way to view this event. You are so fucking far wrong, this is NOT acceptable and completely disgusting. Punishing a child with beats is not entirely wrong, slaps to the ass etc. BUT THIS IS ABUSE, PLAIN AND SIMPLE PHYSICAL ABUSE. Fucking betrayed her parents? Theres a death penalty in your country isnt there? lets use it. Whoever condones this is fucking sick and twisted and it makes me so angry im not going to come back to this thread. im not condoning abuse in any way. but then again im not condoning people who aren't parents criticizing people who actually Are parents and have to make these decisions - whether they seem good or bad - on a daily basis. do u think parents like to resort to physical disciplining? ofc u can argue that it is not necessary but depending on what culture u are from and who u are it is a part of growing up. clearly the man says that it was a last resort and that she had c rossed the line several times for it to have come to this. You are fucking condoning it, you are defending his actions. I work with kids day in day out and i see the effects of what this bullshit does. So dont fuck me around and say i have no actual "view" on the situation. I have already explained all my views on physical punishment and how far over the line this shit is, a whip is a weapon, being used on a child. You are scum, worse then shit and you are probably this way because you suffered the same or worse then this girl did, much like the others sound who defend his actions in this thread. I cant fucking believe humanity right now, sick twisted fuck.
for every kid that you've worked with i can find ten that have been spanked as kids that function just fine right now. no problems at all whatsoever.
ignorant people ignorant conclusions. calling me bad names won't change my opinions you are only hurting your own cause friend. if you're trying to convince me that is 
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Having experienced pretty much the exact same thing (except in my case it was often the cord that connected the power supply to the comp or xbox instead of a belt) this wasn't all that difficult to watch. It wouldn't surprise me if this was a regular occurrence in the US.
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On November 02 2011 19:21 Starscreamz wrote:
pandaBee; "I have nothing against beating children to raise them when necessary" you're damaged beyond repair. I feel sorry for you.
you're changing my words there friend don't be so vehement ! change beating to disciplining and we're fine here.
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