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imRadu
1798 Posts
Getting them out of the bus for refusing to put on a seatbetlt is a perfectably accepted punishemnt. Also sending the videotape to their school to be reviewd by their parents. Kids get off the bus: 1)he goes home makes up some shit about the school bus driver hating him, parent investigates sees videotape 2)he walks to school. lesson learned after walking it 9999 times. | ||
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imRadu
1798 Posts
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Hot77.iEy
Finland1486 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
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InSideOut
Canada1035 Posts
On June 01 2005 16:01 iamke55 wrote: Can you seriously tell me Korean kids aren't 100x more respectful than American kids with a straight face? still.. being smacked around for doing stupid things that kids do or doing their crazy ass school scheduals. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 01 2005 11:53 fbs wrote: Those kids will only learn from a beating and that's what they should of got. All you people are fucking crazy. He GRABBED THE KIDS THROAT. OK? If he did that I would fucking murder him. Now, I didn't hear what they said (it's late, can't turn the volume up very high -_-) but to me the busdriver was acting pretty threatening, and the guy who got up was the kid who was being threatened's brother. Wtf. He didn't even do shit, except probably told him to get away from him or something -_- Look, I fucking hate retarded kids and they probably deserve to get beat up.. But to grab some kid by the throat? Excuse me? What the fuck is that? He should be fucking fired. Btw, I don't know what kind of spanking you people seem to be in favour of, but unless it's hard enough to make you afraid - which is B A D - I can't see ANY reason that would have helped calm me down as a little kid, I'd probably have stopped for 30 seconds, anger taking over, go at it again. So you going to hit me harder now? Yeah. Great idea. And what if that doesn't work? Harder still? Shitty idea -_- | ||
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Gryffindor_us
United States5606 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 01 2005 12:02 MPXMX wrote: That wouldn't do anything. First of all not much could happen to the kids for swearing or what not. They are kids. Plus they would settle down for time being and learn no lesson. But they probably didn't in any case. I can't wach the video because WMP is being gay but I think that North American upbringing these days leaves much to wish for ... it's too lenient and the society is soft. There are lawsuits for touching people etc. I know in Russia if you grow up being a little shit you'll get your face broken many a time and nobody will care. One word: Androide ;p I guess that is because he's rich though.. | ||
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chrusher97
Canada810 Posts
rofl and theres teh kid yelling "get off him" like a little girl the whole time | ||
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On June 01 2005 18:14 chrusher97 wrote: well its hard to hear but when he is first walking to the back of the bus the kid stands up and yells "hey motherfucker" then the bus driver smacks him. rofl and theres teh kid yelling "get off him" like a little girl the whole time Hm. "Hey motherfucker" is pretty fucking retarded to yell at someone acting the way the busdriver did -- But the man's 66. Sixty. Six. On June 01 2005 17:30 imRadu wrote: It's still a matter between you and your kid and not the driver and your kid and you know it zia I am not questioning your parental skills, i question your reply where you say because it's obvious that you support the driver's actions. Bus driver drives the bus and you are the one who educates your kid after seeing the video mkay? Just had to quote this because it's so true! | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
I think Radu's right. The kids should be disciplined by being forced to do something they dislike (i.e. get up early and walk to school) by higher authorities. Why not violence instead? Because the kids are also going to learn how to "discipline", or more appropriately, how to deal with people who piss them off. The more we use violence to discipline them, the more they will use it against others. The same goes for appealing to a higher authority, except I think we can all say we'd have fewer problems with the kids doing that instead of using violence. So, as much as we loved seeing those kids getting what for (my only regret at the time was that he didn't kick the kid's ass), the bus driver probably should have waited for the deputy (sedating himself with the thought of the kids having to behave or else walk to school from now on) and had him escort the little brats out of the bus. What if the parents, school, and police fail, like some undoubtedly do, and don't take enough action against the kids? What if the parents simply drove the kids to school from that point on, never teaching them a lesson? What if the bus driver has had to put up with their crap for a long time? What can he do? Maybe a little bit of violence was the answer, if only to draw attention to the situation and force the parents and the school to deal with it. I really don't know: I'd have to think about this some more. | ||
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On June 01 2005 17:37 imRadu wrote: Kids get off the bus: 1)he goes home makes up some shit about the school bus driver hating him, parent investigates sees videotape 2)he walks to school. lesson learned after walking it 9999 times. I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit. | ||
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Smorrie
Netherlands2922 Posts
On June 01 2005 18:36 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit. that makes no sense at all -,- | ||
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TvP On Guillo
Denmark646 Posts
On June 01 2005 18:02 Bill307 wrote: TvP: Are you saying that because it's what the law says? Are you saying that because you think it will, if applied consistently, lead to a better world? Or are you saying that because you think it would have led to the best outcome in this particular situation? I'm not clear on the American laws that are relevant in this situation. In Denmark the laws somewhat resemble my opinion of this matter. In other cases, not. As you may know, there is close to no crime in Denmark - about ½-1 homocides a year. The laws in Denmark prevents you from abusing your physical power upon a child, but on the other hand, nothing really happens if you do. Unless, its an extreme case of violence. You won't get sued out of your ass. We have alot of "you are not allowed to do X" laws, but there is no penalty for actually breaking it. Our society, relies heavily on pragmatism. While this may seem highly controversial, you can't argue with the low crime rate, that is a result of it. There are a couple of reasons it works out better here, though. For example, the high welfare, free: insurance, medical help, education, right to vote. Voting is considered a citizens duty, and people who don't vote are "frowned" upon(it is very easy to vote, you get a voting ticket in the mail and you use it at the local voting booth). Everyone has a chance in the society, even if you are a pedophilic alcoholic, there is a program you can attend(for free). There is a cultural difference, but in the end we all just want to be respected. It is the kids right to express their opinion towards the bus driver, as long as they don't interfere with his driving, as it is the bus driver's right to express his opinion towards them. You can do what you want, as long as you don't take that freedom away from others. When the kids calls the bus driver a "fucker", and he gets mad, its his own problem. | ||
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Hot77.iEy
Finland1486 Posts
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imRadu
1798 Posts
1)You will get some exercise 2)You will learn to behave in the end and then get to ride the bus and maybe make a friend! | ||
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TvP On Guillo
Denmark646 Posts
On June 01 2005 18:36 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit. How oxymoronic. You should have considered not taking the bus, in the first place. I normally disregard babble like yours, but it was slightly funny, and could have been the foundation of a good joke. | ||
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Bill307
Canada9103 Posts
On June 01 2005 18:36 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit. And I know a guy who would take a lot longer to get to school without a bus. So what's your point? | ||
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B.GoD_AnGRY
Chile334 Posts
There were other ways to react about that situation | ||
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