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imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
June 01 2005 08:37 GMT
#141
Bill307 using fear, violence and other crap is not as educational as you might think. They are children and not adults for a reason.

Getting them out of the bus for refusing to put on a seatbetlt is a perfectably accepted punishemnt. Also sending the videotape to their school to be reviewd by their parents.

Kids get off the bus:
1)he goes home makes up some shit about the school bus driver hating him, parent investigates sees videotape
2)he walks to school. lesson learned after walking it 9999 times.
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
June 01 2005 08:40 GMT
#142
oh and "fear of the consequences" prevents you from educating all these spoiled brats because of the "pussy laws"?
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
June 01 2005 08:54 GMT
#143
Some year ago, a schoolbus driver who had sexually abused children in Finland was caught . The children were 7-13 year olds and this had been going on for many years.
-.-
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 01 2005 09:02 GMT
#144
TvP: Are you saying that because it's what the law says? Are you saying that because you think it will, if applied consistently, lead to a better world? Or are you saying that because you think it would have led to the best outcome in this particular situation?
InSideOut
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada1035 Posts
June 01 2005 09:06 GMT
#145
On June 01 2005 16:01 iamke55 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2005 15:30 InSideOut wrote:
On June 01 2005 13:35 StarN wrote:
silly american school system... it should be more like korea where the teachers beat the kids without even thinking twice about it.


you acutally want / like that system???

the bus driver went to far he should have waited for the deputy to come and then it would have been over with.


Can you seriously tell me Korean kids aren't 100x more respectful than American kids with a straight face?


still.. being smacked around for doing stupid things that kids do or doing their crazy ass school scheduals.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 01 2005 09:12 GMT
#146
On June 01 2005 11:53 fbs wrote:
Those kids will only learn from a beating and that's what they should of got.

All you people are fucking crazy.

He GRABBED THE KIDS THROAT.
OK?

If he did that I would fucking murder him. Now, I didn't hear what they said (it's late, can't turn the volume up very high -_-) but to me the busdriver was acting pretty threatening, and the guy who got up was the kid who was being threatened's brother. Wtf.

He didn't even do shit, except probably told him to get away from him or something -_-

Look, I fucking hate retarded kids and they probably deserve to get beat up.. But to grab some kid by the throat? Excuse me? What the fuck is that?

He should be fucking fired.

Btw, I don't know what kind of spanking you people seem to be in favour of, but unless it's hard enough to make you afraid - which is B A D - I can't see ANY reason that would have helped calm me down as a little kid, I'd probably have stopped for 30 seconds, anger taking over, go at it again.

So you going to hit me harder now? Yeah. Great idea. And what if that doesn't work? Harder still?

Shitty idea -_-
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Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
June 01 2005 09:13 GMT
#147
Yeah.. I err on the side of peace rather than violence in any situation. And violence begets violence so whatever.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
June 01 2005 09:13 GMT
#148
On June 01 2005 12:02 MPXMX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2005 11:54 Darth124 wrote:
On June 01 2005 11:44 pirate cod wrote:
On June 01 2005 11:41 Darth124 wrote:
Ah, come on!

The kid the bus driver hit first wasn't even the one causing the trouble. And you can't just hit someone because they mouth off at you.

A person shouldn't have to deal with that shit - I hope he sues the kids for distress.

I agree with you that he shouldn't have to deal with it, but is beating them up really the way to solve it? He'd called for an officer over the radio or something, he could have just waited for him to come.


That wouldn't do anything. First of all not much could happen to the kids for swearing or what not. They are kids. Plus they would settle down for time being and learn no lesson. But they probably didn't in any case. I can't wach the video because WMP is being gay but I think that North American upbringing these days leaves much to wish for ... it's too lenient and the society is soft. There are lawsuits for touching people etc. I know in Russia if you grow up being a little shit you'll get your face broken many a time and nobody will care.

One word: Androide

;p

I guess that is because he's rich though..
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
chrusher97
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada811 Posts
June 01 2005 09:14 GMT
#149
well its hard to hear but when he is first walking to the back of the bus the kid stands up and yells "hey motherfucker" then the bus driver smacks him.


rofl and theres teh kid yelling "get off him" like a little girl the whole time
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-01 09:21:50
June 01 2005 09:18 GMT
#150
On June 01 2005 18:14 chrusher97 wrote:
well its hard to hear but when he is first walking to the back of the bus the kid stands up and yells "hey motherfucker" then the bus driver smacks him.


rofl and theres teh kid yelling "get off him" like a little girl the whole time

Hm. "Hey motherfucker" is pretty fucking retarded to yell at someone acting the way the busdriver did --

But the man's 66.
Sixty.
Six.

On June 01 2005 17:30 imRadu wrote:
It's still a matter between you and your kid and not the driver and your kid and you know it zia
I am not questioning your parental skills, i question your reply where you say
Show nested quote +

Anyone who says "that's wrong, they don't know any better" is going to be one shitty parent.

because it's obvious that you support the driver's actions. Bus driver drives the bus and you are the one who educates your kid after seeing the video mkay?


Just had to quote this because it's so true!
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
June 01 2005 09:22 GMT
#151
the busdriver's fault for being a motherfucker
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-01 09:40:29
June 01 2005 09:35 GMT
#152
Hmm shit I hate when I'm wrong.

I think Radu's right. The kids should be disciplined by being forced to do something they dislike (i.e. get up early and walk to school) by higher authorities. Why not violence instead? Because the kids are also going to learn how to "discipline", or more appropriately, how to deal with people who piss them off. The more we use violence to discipline them, the more they will use it against others. The same goes for appealing to a higher authority, except I think we can all say we'd have fewer problems with the kids doing that instead of using violence.

So, as much as we loved seeing those kids getting what for (my only regret at the time was that he didn't kick the kid's ass), the bus driver probably should have waited for the deputy (sedating himself with the thought of the kids having to behave or else walk to school from now on) and had him escort the little brats out of the bus.

What if the parents, school, and police fail, like some undoubtedly do, and don't take enough action against the kids? What if the parents simply drove the kids to school from that point on, never teaching them a lesson? What if the bus driver has had to put up with their crap for a long time? What can he do? Maybe a little bit of violence was the answer, if only to draw attention to the situation and force the parents and the school to deal with it. I really don't know: I'd have to think about this some more.
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-06-01 09:38:06
June 01 2005 09:36 GMT
#153
On June 01 2005 17:37 imRadu wrote:

Kids get off the bus:
1)he goes home makes up some shit about the school bus driver hating him, parent investigates sees videotape
2)he walks to school. lesson learned after walking it 9999 times.


I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about

kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit.
All Those beneath an angry star
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
June 01 2005 09:38 GMT
#154
On June 01 2005 18:36 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2005 17:37 imRadu wrote:

Kids get off the bus:
1)he goes home makes up some shit about the school bus driver hating him, parent investigates sees videotape
2)he walks to school. lesson learned after walking it 9999 times.


I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about

kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit.


that makes no sense at all -,-
It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
June 01 2005 09:40 GMT
#155
On June 01 2005 18:02 Bill307 wrote:
TvP: Are you saying that because it's what the law says? Are you saying that because you think it will, if applied consistently, lead to a better world? Or are you saying that because you think it would have led to the best outcome in this particular situation?


I'm not clear on the American laws that are relevant in this situation. In Denmark the laws somewhat resemble my opinion of this matter. In other cases, not.

As you may know, there is close to no crime in Denmark - about ½-1 homocides a year. The laws in Denmark prevents you from abusing your physical power upon a child, but on the other hand, nothing really happens if you do. Unless, its an extreme case of violence. You won't get sued out of your ass. We have alot of "you are not allowed to do X" laws, but there is no penalty for actually breaking it. Our society, relies heavily on pragmatism. While this may seem highly controversial, you can't argue with the low crime rate, that is a result of it.

There are a couple of reasons it works out better here, though. For example, the high welfare, free: insurance, medical help, education, right to vote. Voting is considered a citizens duty, and people who don't vote are "frowned" upon(it is very easy to vote, you get a voting ticket in the mail and you use it at the local voting booth). Everyone has a chance in the society, even if you are a pedophilic alcoholic, there is a program you can attend(for free).

There is a cultural difference, but in the end we all just want to be respected. It is the kids right to express their opinion towards the bus driver, as long as they don't interfere with his driving, as it is the bus driver's right to express his opinion towards them.

You can do what you want, as long as you don't take that freedom away from others. When the kids calls the bus driver a "fucker", and he gets mad, its his own problem.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Hot77.iEy
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Finland1486 Posts
June 01 2005 09:44 GMT
#156
FA. Its a different culture.. In Sweden or Finland the bus driver would have gotten fired instantly. His actions were mild in american scale but as a Finn all I could think was 'HE GRABBED HIS THROAT! HE FUCKING GRABBED THAT KIDS THROAT' But after reading some of the comments here and thinking about kids carrying knives/fire arms in schools in u.s and the, sometimes, ridiculous seeming safety precautions I think what he did wasnt that harsh. In Finland, School shootings/stabbings happen ... once in 20 years? Iam happy to think that here teachers dont have to fear kids carrying weapons and in the meantime I can see just in the busdrivers actions..
-.-
imRadu
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
1798 Posts
June 01 2005 09:45 GMT
#157
LetMeBeWith we can all agree that you are a fat kid who actually benefits from not getting into that bus because:
1)You will get some exercise
2)You will learn to behave in the end and then get to ride the bus and maybe make a friend!
Its really good to see that some people dont let education get in the way of their ignorance
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
June 01 2005 09:50 GMT
#158
On June 01 2005 18:36 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:
I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about

kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit.


How oxymoronic. You should have considered not taking the bus, in the first place. I normally disregard babble like yours, but it was slightly funny, and could have been the foundation of a good joke.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
June 01 2005 09:55 GMT
#159
On June 01 2005 18:36 LetMeBeWithYou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2005 17:37 imRadu wrote:

Kids get off the bus:
1)he goes home makes up some shit about the school bus driver hating him, parent investigates sees videotape
2)he walks to school. lesson learned after walking it 9999 times.


I got kicked off my bus and I'm better off without taking bus I dont know what the heck you're talking about

kicking you off the bus is a fucking empty threat seriously I get to school faster without the bus and I get home faster without the bus no bullshit.


And I know a guy who would take a lot longer to get to school without a bus.

So what's your point?
B.GoD_AnGRY
Profile Joined January 2003
Chile334 Posts
June 01 2005 10:31 GMT
#160
im with FA, TvP and imRadu...
There were other ways to react about that situation
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